Chapter 779: Separation of government and capital
Bao Feiyang originally thought that Liang Dashan might not be determined to give up the model he relied on and instead worked hard to build a regular company.
To be honest, the contractor still makes money very quickly these days, not necessarily worse than a regular construction company.
I didn't expect Liang Dashan to show a lot of determination, and even confidence, which is a bit commendable. However, Liang Dashan's concern is also very realistic, that is, they will take out all the accumulation over the years and invest in the county construction company, so who does this company belong to in the end. They can't take out all their net worth and work hard to take care of it, but the company is still in the county, so they have worked in vain for so many years.
Hearing Bao Feiyang's question, Liang Dashan straightened up and said: "I don't dare to say what it can be done in the end, but I think there is no problem in building a high-rise building with more than ten floors." ”
"Okay, it's the first time I've seen Mr. Liang so heroic. Zhou Zhixiang said with a smile.
Bao Feiyang picked up a peanut, put it in his mouth and chewed it: "Liang can always have confidence, that's a good thing." As for the county construction company, I am not satisfied with the current situation, and I think it should be changed. ”
"How to change it will definitely need to be discussed and decided by the county. I think there may be several directions, Mr. Liang, you are also the leader of the county's construction industry, Director Guo, you are the head of the Construction Bureau, the Construction Bureau is the competent unit of the construction industry and the county construction company, you can all consider it first, and the CPPCC has the power to participate in politics, Chairman Zhou, you also have to help us check the gates......"
Zhou Zhixiang smiled and waved his hand: "You say, I'll listen to it, I don't know much about economic things, I know that County Magistrate Bao is a capable person in this regard." ”
Zhou Zhixiang said this sentence is not just a compliment, if he originally felt that Bao Feiyang relied on his personal background to bring several big projects for Wanghai County, and his personal ability is not necessarily good, after today's contact, he also realized that Bao Feiyang has real materials, whether it is dealing with people or talking about some sensitive issues, Bao Feiyang is comfortable with it, and his views are very mature, and the pattern is very large, no wonder he can serve as a deputy county magistrate at such a young age, not just because of his personal background.
Bao Feiyang said: "The county wants to make the county construction company bigger, nothing more than to do two things, one is to integrate people, including Mr. Liang's management talents, but also including the experienced construction team now attached to the company's name, although you do not meet the requirements of the formal construction company, but you are already the most experienced and knowledgeable people in the county's construction industry, the construction company to become bigger, must be inseparable from you people." You also have a good foundation, and I want to put it under the framework of the new company, and you can grow very quickly. ”
"Of course, it's not enough to just be these people, we also need to absorb and train more talents. Aside from the cultivation of talents, it is also indispensable to absorb talents from the outside and make up for the existing shortcomings. ”
Liang Dashan nodded, listened carefully, and was basically able to keep up with Bao Feiyang's train of thought: "The second thing that County Magistrate Bao said should be money, right?"
Bao Feiyang smiled and said: "Yes, it is a problem of money, and it can also be said to be a problem of equipment, assets and funds. If the county construction company wants to exhibit, it must increase investment, investment can be additional investment by Mr. Liang, it can be the investment of the county, of course, it can also be introduced from the outside, the basic principle should be who invests is who, we divide the equity according to the input, and the company implements the shareholding system. ”
At present, the joint-stock system is nothing new, and there are already securities markets in both Shencheng and Pengcheng that specialize in stock trading, and there are more than 3,000 state-owned enterprises in the country that have carried out the shareholding system transformation. But the joint-stock system is still a very distant thing for many people and units, and Liang Dashan even frowned when he heard Bao Feiyang mention the joint-stock system.
At present, there are still many problems in the shareholding system reform of state-owned enterprises, and many enterprises have realized the shareholding system on the surface, but they still cannot get rid of the old management model, and one of the more critical ones is that state-owned shares still account for the majority. The mainstream shareholding system is usually classified according to the way of state-owned shares, workers' shares, and social shares, and many enterprises that have implemented the joint-stock system usually still have about 80 percent of the state-owned shares, and then only a few percent or none of the 10 percent of the workers' shares, and only a few percent or none of the social shares.
The reason why the city-building model has caused a lot of controversy is that they have sold all the state-owned shares, and the equity of the enterprise belongs to the workers, and the workers' shares account for 100 percent.
Bao Feiyang looked at Liang Dashan and said: "Mr. Liang has doubts? Actually, I have another plan, that is, you all jump out of the county construction company and set up a new construction company by yourself, anyway, the county construction company does not have many useful assets left." ”
Liang Dashan smiled wryly, he is still the manager of the county construction company, and he has the status of a national cadre, although this identity is useless many times, but sometimes it is still useful, so Liang Dashan gave up like this, and he may not be willing.
"County Magistrate Bao is joking with me, no matter how I say it, I am still a cadre of the Construction Bureau, and I still have feelings for the county construction company. If we all leave, leaving a mess, Guo Ju will not be able to spare me. Liang Dashan said.
Bao Feiyang nodded: "Mr. Liang has this thought, and he is worthy of the country's cultivation of you." As for the joint-stock system, I think it can still be discussed, we divide the equity according to the share of capital contribution, and the state-owned shares do not necessarily account for the majority, and whoever invests more will occupy the majority. ”
Bao Feiyang turned his head and said to Guo Baolin: "I mentioned a point before the county magistrate's office meeting for the transportation bureau and the county passenger transport company, referees and athletes cannot be one person, the construction bureau as the county's construction field managers, should not be directly engaged in business activities, this is also a trend of economic reform, so the county construction company to implement the shareholding system transformation, the construction bureau to withdraw from it." ”
Guo Baolin obviously didn't expect this to be the result, and he asked in surprise: "What about the state-owned assets of the construction company?"
Bao Feiyang said: "The county can set up a special state-owned asset management department to hold the company's equity on behalf of the state, exercise shareholder rights and asset management responsibilities. ”
Guo Baolin looked at Zhou Zhixiang, Yu Chenfeng and others in a bit of confusion, and Zhou Zhixiang's face also showed a surprised expression: "The mention of County Magistrate Bao is a bit precedented, I remember reading an article some time ago that mentioned this practice, it seems that there are not many places in China that do this now?"
Bao Feiyang nodded: "In fact, the logic of this approach is very clear, and it is consistent with the reform line we are currently promoting. We can all see that after reform and opening up, we have strengthened the autonomy of enterprise management, carried out contract management, and reformed the shareholding system, and established a modern enterprise system. If there is too much power, state-owned assets will inevitably be damaged, and if there is too much management, the vitality of enterprises will be affected. I think there is one point that everyone does not want to admit, but in fact, there is no way to avoid it, that is, the tragedy of the commons, the enterprise is state-owned, it can also be said that the enterprise is not owned by anyone, in economics, this is called the property rights of the void, the property rights of the void will lead to the decline of everyone's sense of responsibility, which has nothing to do with people's consciousness, it is human nature. ”
Bao Feiyang's words sound a bit radical, but they are not shocking words, and they can often be seen in some academic articles. It's just that Bao Feiyang brought it up on such an occasion, which still shocked Guo Baolin and others, and at the same time was faintly excited.
Zhou Zhixiang is the only one who has been exposed to these things and can keep up with Bao Feiyang's thinking: "The summary of the county magistrate Bao is very incisive, and I have seen some articles in this regard, and even the party newspaper has mentioned that it is necessary to set up a special state-owned asset management agency to operate state-owned assets." ”
Bao Feiyang looked at Zhou Zhixiang with some surprise, but he didn't expect Zhou Zhixiang, a cultural celebrity in the county, to have such an understanding of the current policy dynamics. Theoretical circles have indeed proposed the establishment of a special state-owned asset management department within the government to manage state-owned assets in a unified manner.
The current situation is that the state is the owner of state-owned assets, but specifically different government departments are exercising the power of some owners of state-owned assets, such as the construction bureau is exercising the power of the owner of state-owned assets of the county construction company, and at the same time the construction bureau is the manager of the industry.
The phenomenon of not separating government administration from enterprise management should be reformed, and this is universally recognized by the current theoretical and political circles, and there is not much controversy, but the reform process of separating government administration from enterprise management is extremely difficult, and this is also caused by the lack of separation of government and capital.
In the case of no separation of government and capital, government departments, as the owners of state-owned assets, must intervene in the behavior of enterprises if they want to exercise the rights of asset owners, and the main way for government agencies to intervene is administrative instructions, so it is difficult for enterprises to get rid of this administrative intervention and realize the autonomy of business activities.
When the reform emphasizes the separation of government and enterprises, and the government departments relax their intervention in enterprises, the owners of assets will be absent, and the enterprises will become controlled by insiders.
This phenomenon is not uncommon, and even if the operation of the county construction company and the county passenger transport company is reasonable, the situation of maintaining and increasing the value of state-owned assets has not improved much, and only certain individuals have benefited.
This is the dilemma of the current reform, which is constantly oscillating between administrative intervention and insider control, so the premise of separating government administration from enterprise management is to separate government and capital, and to establish a special and unified state-owned asset management organization. r1152
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