After listening to Zhang Chen's answer, Oprah nodded approvingly: "You're right, any ethnic group, whenever faced with injustice, someone will stand up." When I was born, blacks couldn't sit on the same bus as whites. It was Martin Luther King Jr. who stood up and shouted, I have a dream to break down the world's prejudices and discrimination that I can sit here today. When I was fourteen years old, I had a time of depravity, and in the same year I had a child, and in the same year that the child died, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. The path to equality and non-discrimination is not always easy, and you are the youngest billionaire in the world, how could you think of speaking up for the Chinese?"

Oprah's characteristic is empathy, she is very good at using her own life experience to empathize with the interviewee, which can not only make the other party subtly believe in her more, say more true feelings, and more infect the audience. It is precisely because of this that she will become the most famous talk show host in the United States.

Zhang Chen did not have a signature smile on his face, but was slightly serious: "Martin Luther King Jr. is the leader of the black civil rights movement, a great person, and my idol. But Oprah, I might want to correct it, I joined this movement not because of racism. ”

"What's that for?" Oprah asked, slightly interested.

The corners of Zhang Chen's mouth curled slightly: "For the sake of justice." ”

"Justice?" Oprah was stunned.

Zhang Chen Shi Ran said: "Yes, for justice. ”

"Can you elaborate on that?" Oprah said with interest.

Zhang Chen smiled slightly: "In fact, from a personal point of view, I do confirm that there is a considerable degree of racial discrimination against Chinese in mainstream American society. No, civilizational discrimination to be precise, a kind of contempt of Western civilization for Eastern civilization. But I think the best weapon against any discrimination is self-improvement, if you are strong, you can naturally reverse the prejudice of others, maybe one generation is strong and cannot be reversed, but two or three generations can always be reversed. ”

"For example, in Germany, at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the British people looked down on Germans very much, looked down on German products, and thought that products made in Germany were fake and shoddy products. Germans are therefore required to label their products as 'Made in Germany'. It is used to humiliate the Germans and to distinguish between domestic and German goods. This was undoubtedly a form of discrimination, but in 50 years Germany had the courage to change the world's perception of the Germans, and now precision and reliability have become synonymous with the Germans, and Britain can no longer match Germany in the industrial field. ”

Zhang Chen looked at Oprah and added: "Of course, I'm not saying that the struggle is not important, in fact, the injustice faced by African Americans is not something that can be changed by a simple sentence of self-improvement. Martin Luther King Jr. made great contributions to the rights of the African people, and it is the indomitable struggle of Africans that has led to today's equal status, which is actually a kind of self-improvement. ”

"In addition, it is precisely because of the struggle of the African community that in this day and age, the whole world has developed a consensus that not only racial discrimination, but any form of discrimination is wrong. Therefore, each and every one of us should be grateful to these protesters. ”

Oprah's expression was slightly dark, "Thank you, but I still don't understand what justice you mean??"

Zhang Chen restrained his smile and said seriously: "It's very simple, since you are wrong, you must admit your mistake, this is the most basic truth." The Chinese Exclusion Act is the only immigration exclusion bill in U.S. history that targets a certain ethnicity. It is hard to imagine that such a 'Chinese Exclusion Act', which violates the US Constitution, the spirit of freedom and democracy in which the United States was founded, and the spirit of human rights in the United States, can be implemented in the United States for decades, and there has been no apology to the Chinese people so far. When the Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed, it was clearly declared that the Chinese Exclusion Act violated the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, which was an outright mistake! If the president is wrong, he must apologize, and Congress is wrong, so why can't he apologize?"

Crichton has just apologized to the people of the United States for the zipper door, and Zhang Chen's words are just right.

Oprah took the initiative to applaud after a long time on the battlefield: "Yes, the United States is a great country, a great country, and it will never deny its mistakes. Speaker Newt Gingrich and members of the House of Representatives, if you're watching my show, listen to this young man's voice. Justice, in the United States, there are still people calling for justice today, don't you feel ashamed?"

Due to the length of the show, for the sake of ratings, Oprah obviously can't dwell on this topic for too long, and still has to ask more questions that are of interest to the audience.

"Let's take it easy, Zack. We all know that in less than three years, you have gone from an ordinary Chinese teenager to one of the richest people in the world. How do you think your life has changed compared to before?" Oprah changed to a relaxed sitting position and looked at Zhang Chen with interest.

Zhang Chen thought for a while, "Frankly speaking, there are still quite big changes in life. In a sense, most things in this world can be bought with money, and the increase in wealth has indeed made my life different than before. It is a fact that my family and I have a better life because of the increase in wealth. I am very grateful for this era and the pioneers who created it, without them, there would not be so many people who have changed their lives through high-tech entrepreneurship today, and I hope that I can be a part of them. ”

Zhang Chen's answer was decent, although sincere, but obviously there was no breaking point, Oprah took over: "I have interviewed many people, and some people feel that they are not as happy as before after their wealth has skyrocketed. Actually, I had a similar problem when I first became famous. When I made my first million dollars, I was really excited. But it didn't take long for me to get tired of what I had and feel even more unhappy. It went on for two or three years, and I was on medication, and it wasn't until '88 that I really started to get used to it, don't you feel that way?"

Zhang Chen rolled his eyes in his heart, what kind of fart problem is this, does it have to tell the story of Fan Jinzhongju to be true?

Zhang Chen picked up the water, took a sip, and shook his head with a smile.

Seeing that Zhang Chen didn't answer, Oprah continued to ask, "So, what does money mean to you?"

Zhang Chen lowered his head and was silent for a moment, looked at Oprah, raised his head and said seriously: "Rousseau said that the money in our hands is a tool to set us free. ”

"Wealth means freedom. ”

(End of chapter)