Hou Xiaoxian held the cup and looked at the two young people in front of him with great interest.

Zhang Jingchu's eyes were shining, and she looked at Zhang Ran with a smile. She especially likes to watch Zhang Ran speak, and once she talks about movies, she is really bright.

Jia Zhangke has been up and down in the film industry for many years, and he is not a person who is easily convinced: "You all claim to be heroes who resist Hollywood, and you say that if we don't make movies, don't make commercial blockbusters, Hollywood will go straight in, and Chinese films will die." I think that's a demagogic statement. Don't you die if you don't make a Chinese movie?"

Zhang Ran frowned and said: "Of course I won't die if I don't make movies, but if the mainstream of the Chinese film market has always been art films, it will be really dangerous! There is a data in the film industry report at the beginning of this year, 70% of the audience think that Hollywood movies are good, only 17% think that domestic films are good, and 46.6% think that Chinese films are of poor quality. If it weren't for the quota limit, our market would have been occupied by Hollywood. Director Hou is here, you can ask, how did Taiwan movies die? It's that art films have become the mainstream of the market. ”

Hou Xiaoxian laughed helplessly, in the early 80s, there was a dispute over the route of Taiwan Films, Hou Xiaoxian and they took the road of art, and the other faction wanted to learn Hollywood. In the end, Hou Xiaoxian and the others won and became the mainstream of the market, which eventually led to the collapse of Yetai Movie.

There are strong political reasons for this, since Taiwan was expelled from the United Nations in 72, Taiwan has desperately wanted to show his face on various international occasions, and after Li Dengshen came to power, he engaged in de-Sinicization, which was reflected in the film, and also wanted to gain the recognition of the three major film festivals and show his face in the world.

Those who can be shortlisted for the three major film festivals are all art films, so after the introduction of the tutoring fund policy by Taiwan, all the art films are supported, and there is strong support for art films that want to participate in international film festivals. In this way, art films have become the mainstream of the market, and while frequently winning awards at film festivals, they have become niche films that are only shown to a few elites.

In the end, the Taiwan film was abandoned by the audience in Taiwan, and the entire film industry completely collapsed, and the annual film output has changed from more than 100 to more than 10 now.

Zhang Ran glanced at Hou Xiaoxian and said, "Director Hou, you know better than me about the situation in Taiwan, please tell me how many movies there were in Taiwan last year, and how much was the box office?"

"Last year, there were only 15 local films, and the box office combined was only 15 million, less than 1% of the total box office. Now there are a lot of people who blame me for ruining the movie. Speaking of these, Hou Xiaoxian sighed, his eyes gloomy, ""City of Sadness" is indeed a very bad example, because everyone is misled into thinking that it is a normal situation. However, this is not the fault of art films, it is a matter of policy. There are only more than 20 million people in Taiwan, and even the most basic film industry cannot be established, so learning from Hollywood will not work, but there is hope in the mainland!"

Zhang Ran was stunned, "City of Sadness" won the Golden Lion Award, which is the highest honor Hou Xiaoxian has received, but he didn't expect him to admit the misleading effect of this movie. Zhang Ran suddenly understood why Hou Xiaoxian didn't make much films later, and turned to desperately support the new director, probably to atone for his sins!

Zhang Ran looked at Jia Zhangke and said: "The situation in our mainland is almost the same as that of Taiwan, after Zhang Yimou's "Red Sorghum" won the Golden Bear, countless directors went for foreign awards. Art films became mainstream. Unlike Taiwan, our side is more tightly stuck on Hollywood movies, unlike Taiwan, which has an open door and no restrictions on Hollywood. Otherwise, what will happen to us will be the same as the movie in Taiwan, and the whole industry will collapse!"

Jia Zhangke said disapprerovingly: "Director Hou's name has been written into the history of film. Fifty years later, their names will still be there, and their works will become the pride of the Chinese people representing this era.

Zhang Ran sneered: "What are the box office gains and losses in one time and one place? Now young people in Taiwan watch Hollywood movies, watch Japanese TV dramas, and Japanese stars. Do you know what this means? It means that after the young people in Taiwan Bend grow up, they will not be proud of China, they will not be proud of Chinese, but they will be proud of Japan, and they even want to become Japanese! The situation in our interior is not much better, and young people watch Hollywood movies, Japanese anime, and Korean TV dramas. If this development continues, what will happen to Chinese culture? Our nation has suffered many disasters and difficulties, but what is it that has been able to get to where it is today? If we want to destroy a nation, we must first destroy its culture! If our younger generations are not proud of our culture, then our nation will lose its cohesion!"

Hou Xiaoxian's hand trembled slightly, and his face turned pale. Destroying Chinese culture, this hat is bigger than destroying the Taiwan movie. What's even more terrifying is that what Zhang Ran said is the truth, and now there are not many young people in Taibend who are proud of being Chinese!

Jia Zhangke retorted: "I'm not against business, I'm against excessive commercialization. Xiangjiang movies were brilliant for a while, known as the Hollywood of the East. However, Xiangjiang Films were overly commercial and followed the trend very seriously, which eventually led to the collapse of the entire Xiangjiang Films. Now we are like this in the mainland, Ang Lee's "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" is popular, so there are "Heroes" and "Ambush on All Sides", and director Chen Kaige is also preparing to shoot "Wuji". Ning Hao's "Heartbreaker" is on fire, a bunch of people are following the trend to make sci-fi films, and we are following the old path of Xiangjiang movies!"

Zhang Ran nodded, in the golden age of Xiangjiang films in the early 90s of the last century, many production companies only wanted to see the box office in front of them, shoddy production, and the actors were tired of coping with things. At that time, a movie was often shot in half a month, without a script, and it all relied on on-the-spot performance. Even if a zombie film is successful, then 100 zombie films will be made, and if a hero film is successful, then 100 hero films will be made. Therefore, Jackie Chan said that more and more shoddy and imitation works have seriously ruined the audience's appetite, and it has also made the movie inevitably go to the road of death.

It is indeed one of the reasons for the decline of Xiangjiang films, but it is not the most important reason. What really led to the collapse of Hong Kong Films was that the local market was too narrow and heavily dependent on overseas markets.

South Korea and the Taiwan film market used to be the main export markets of Xiangjiang films, but in the late 80s, Hong Kong films became a bubble, and the interest of Taiwan film audiences in Taiwan was greatly reduced, coupled with the invasion of Hollywood films, in the 90s, Xiangjiang films first lost the Korean market, and then lost the largest foreign market. With the loss of foreign markets and the high production costs of Xiangjiang films, there was not enough money to invest in reproduction, so the entire market collapsed rapidly.

Zhang Ran has some research on Xiangjiang films: "Xiangjiang movies are indeed a lesson. However, Hollywood has followed suit, but it will definitely not be so swarming. The six major Hollywood studios have a scientific market demand analysis and evaluation system for films, and this is what we lack the most. So we had to learn from Hollywood and build our own film industry. It's very difficult, it could take a decade or two, but we have to do it!"

Zhang Ran and Jia Zhangke are both assertive people, and it is impossible to convince them easily, and the two argue non-stop, from China to foreign countries, from the New Wave to poetic realism, neither of them can convince anyone. Hou Xiaoxian was a little silent, looking preoccupied.

Hou Xiaoxian's movie "Coffee Time" premiered at ten o'clock in the evening, Zhang Ran and Jia Zhangke fought until nine o'clock and had to take a truce, came out of the drinking party, and each stopped a taxi to drive towards the movie palace.

Sitting in the car, Zhang Jingchu looked at Zhang Ran and said with a smile: "I saw you and Jia Zhangke fighting like that just now, I'm afraid that you will fight!"

Zhang Ran laughed and said: "It's just that the views are different, and it's not enough to fight, and the gentleman doesn't move his mouth." Even if it really fights, you don't need to worry about me, just Section Chief Jia's small body, how can it be my opponent!"

Zhang Ran and they found that the people in the movie palace were not very full, and today the Toronto Film Festival opened, and many people in the film industry went to Toronto, but they were basically Hou Xiaoxian's die-hard fans.

In 1989, Hou Hsiao-hsien won the Golden Lion Award for "City of Sadness", and fifteen years later, he returned to Venice and brought "Coffee Time".

After Hou Xiaoxian entered the venue, he didn't sit down, and walked over to Zhang Ran and said, "Zhang Ran, I just received a call that something happened at home, and I must go back to Taiwan early tomorrow morning." There's no way to make it to your premiere. But when your movie is released in Taiwan Bend, I will definitely buy a ticket to see it. ”

Zhang Ran smiled and waved his hand: "It's okay, you're busy!"

The time soon reached ten o'clock, but the movie did not officially start, and the audience immediately clamoured. The organizing committee had to run in and apologize to the audience, saying that it had to be delayed for half an hour.

Zhang Ran was a little surprised: "Why didn't you notify earlier, it wouldn't be something, right?"

Jia Zhangke said with a smile: "Do you know, Mark Mueller has carried out a drastic reform of the film festival this year, and the reform may have been carried out too radically, and the film festival has been in trouble until now." The event was overbooked, the film screenings were repeatedly postponed, and the red carpet ceremony was held until 2 a.m. when Johnny De Pu rushed to Venice two days ago, and Al Pacino waited outside the theater for hours to attend the premiere of his film. A lot of people say it's the worst film festival, it's very amateurish!"

Zhang Ran frowned and said, "I hope there will be no trouble with the premiere of "The Aviator" tomorrow!"

Jia Zhangke looked at Zhang Ran and said with a smile: "With your character, I think there is hope to win the lottery!"

Zhang Ran didn't seem to care, shrugged his shoulders and said, "You are jealous!"

Wait until half past ten, and the movie finally begins.

When the lights in the theater dimmed, subtitles appeared on the screen to commemorate the 100th anniversary of Yasujiro Ozu's birth, and the audience burst into applause.

"Coffee Time" tells the story of the subtle relationship between the owner of a second-hand bookstore and his parents after he falls in love with a girl who works in Tokyo. The pace of the film is very slow, the relationship between men and women always maintains an ambiguous color, and the whole film is filled with nostalgia for the lost tradition, which is typical of Hou Hsiao-hsien's style.

Zhang Jingchu looked at it seriously, Hou Xiaoxian is a master, as a literary youth, can a master's works be called a literary youth if he doesn't read his works seriously? But the slow narrative rhythm of "Coffee Time" is enough to make people collapse, and she was quickly hypnotized by the movie and fell asleep on Zhang Ran's shoulder.

Zhang Ran couldn't help but be happy, Hou Xiaoxian's films fell asleep, this is definitely a fake literary youth!

The movie is not very long and ends quickly. Among the enthusiastic audience, Hou Hsiao-hyun was blocked outside the movie theater to talk about the movie, and the Japanese media were also conducting live interviews.

Zhang Ran and the others planned to leave, but out of politeness, they still came over and said hello: "Director Hou, we won't bother you." See you soon!"

"Goodbye!" Hou Xiaoxian nodded.

Zhang Ran and Jia Zhangke were discussing while walking out, and just after walking the hall, they suddenly heard Hou Xiaoxian shouting from behind: "Zhang Ran, Xiao Jia!"

Zhang Ran and Jia Zhangke turned to look at Hou Xiaoxian, not knowing what was wrong with him.

"You two have to work hard!" Hou Hsiao-hsien looked a little lonely in the crowd, but his voice was loud, "Don't let American movies dominate China! )