Chapter 970: The Same Routine
"Our attitude depends on your attitude. Zhuang Dingning said.
It seems that the tough words, Li Xin couldn't help but smile when he heard it, in his opinion, Zhuang Dingning obviously didn't have enough confidence, so he kicked the ball to them.
Qiu Qinan said: "Samsung is very sincere, but you don't agree to financing, what else can we do to cooperate?"
Wei Jinji said: "According to what you say, why don't you let us take a stake in Samsung Electronics?"
Qiu Qinan sneered: "I don't have an opinion, the question is whether your company has the ability?"
Wei Jinzhen said: "As long as Samsung is willing, we can still take out tens of billions, and we don't want half of the shares, it would be very good to be able to buy a dozen shares." ”
Qiu Qinan's eyes widened: "Who can you deceive if you can come up with 100 billion cash." "Because Jiangyan is not listed, the general public does not know about its flows, and the company will not publish this kind of information.
"It depends on whether you agree or not. Wei Jinzhen didn't explain.
"Pretending to be a ghost. Qiu Qinan thought he was pretending to be mysterious.
"Let me make a suggestion. Zhuang Dingning turned back to the topic in time and said: "We hope to exchange the technology of OLED screen for your company's chip technology, and it is easier to operate the technology for technology." ”
"Did I hear me wrong? You want to trade OLED screen technology for chip technology, that's the biggest joke I've heard this year. Please, can you be serious. Li Xin said.
The rest of the South Korean delegation was also disdainful, and they all thought that Jiang Yan was talking about a dream.
Zhuang Dingning said calmly: "Storage technology is also fine. ”
Li Xin looked at him with caring eyes and said, "I doubt your spirit... The state is not good, are you sure this is a requirement from your company?"
Zhuang Dingning said: "I am 100% sure that this is what our company requires. ”
Li Xin smiled and sighed: "I don't know where your company got the courage to enter the field of chips and memory. I have to remind you that these two areas are not something that a small business like you can do. As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be any company in China that can afford to make chips and memory, unless your government pays for it. But you're a purely private enterprise, right, do you want to sell your shares to the government in exchange for money?"
Although his expression is frivolous, Zhuang Dingning knows that the heart of Koreans may not be as frivolous as he appears. Mr. Lee was clearly testing them, wondering if they would work with the government to enter the memory and chip space.
If Jiang Yan cooperates with the government, it is capable of doing these two fields, which makes Li Xin feel a little crisis. But he won't show it, but looks down on Jiang Yan's company, which is his disguise and strategy.
"Our company is an independent company and will continue to be independent in the future. Zhuang Dingning said: "As for whether we have the ability to make chips and memory, this is not something you need to consider." ”
"Then I will also make it clear to you that the exchange of technologies is not possible. Li Xin said.
Compared with the panel industry, chips and memory are the forbidden areas of Samsung Electronics, and any national enterprise developing these two industries will be suppressed by them.
Do you think that Koreans are very shy, but in fact, the real owner of Samsung Group is American capital.
Foreign investors control 52% of Samsung Electronics' common stock, and 80% of Samsung Electronics' preferred shares, which enjoy profit distribution, are controlled by U.S. capital, and Samsung Electronics' huge profits are obtained by U.S. capital.
We have to see the relationship between the United States and South Korea, and Samsung Electronics' capital, technology, and market are actually controlled by the United States. In particular, the U.S. has given Samsung low-cost technology transfer and R&D cooperation that many countries cannot enjoy.
China, on the other hand, is subject to a technological blockade by all the developed countries of the world...... Sometimes I think about it, we are really too hard, and it is not easy to get to where we are today.
Why does U.S. capital want to support Japanese and South Korean companies? This has to talk about the world system built by the United States. The labor cost in the United States is very high, and some low-end industries, such as toys, clothes, shoes, screws, and other industrial products, are very unaffordable to manufacture in the United States. The three countries of Asia, China, Japan and South Korea are the most suitable to take over low-end industries, but China is too large for the United States to worry.
So American capital came up with a way to let the two younger brothers of Japan and South Korea master the mid-to-high-end technology and manufacturing, while China took over the lowest-end industries. This method not only "solves" the worries of US capital, but can also support Japan, South Korea, and a certain island to blockade China's economy and military, which can be said to kill two birds with one stone.
But what the Americans didn't expect was that China, which relied on the lowest-end industries to save money, actually developed. Under the technological blockade, China is gradually moving towards a high-end industrial chain, and this process is definitely more difficult than the development of Japan and South Korea.
After all, Japan and South Korea only have a few high-end fields, while China is developing in an all-round way, and heavy industry, light industry, and military industry can be engaged in everything.
Now, Chinese companies are beginning to enter the field of chips and memory and begin to exert force, which is definitely something that neither Japan, South Korea nor the United States wants to see. Once chips and memory are broken through by us, it basically shows that one foot of China's industry is moving towards the high-end field.
What is this concept?
A lowest-level worker now has to master high-end core technology and become a boss.
"In that case, there's no need for us to talk about it. Zhuang Dingning no longer accommodated the other party, and if the negotiation failed, at most everything returned to the original point, and there was no loss to Jiangyan Company.
And he believes that the other party will not give up easily.
Sure enough, as soon as Zhuang Dingning closed the document, Jin Zhezhong spoke: "Since these two proposals have been rejected, we can only adopt the third plan." A new venture between your company and Samsung Electronics is set up to specialize in OLED screens. The two sides jointly fund the technology, because Samsung Electronics is really lagging behind you in the field of OLED screens, so we will use the funds to make up for the lack of technology. Of course, your company does not need to give up its own panel industry, you can develop at both ends. ”
Zhuang Dingning said with a smile: "How to develop the development of the two ends? The technology is in the joint venture company, is it necessary for us to develop it independently?" ”
Jin Zhezhong said: "Your Excellency may not know much about technical things, there are several companies that make panels and chips in the world, and everyone has their own advantages. You can build on the current technology and take two different paths at the same time, and it is actually good for you. ”
Zhuang Dingning said: "What you mean is that the joint venture company takes one route, and we take another route. ”
Kim Chol-chung said, "Yes, in fact, after the establishment of the joint venture, Samsung Electronics will not stop independent research and development. The panel seems simple, but in fact, there are many different development directions, and the ability of an enterprise is limited, and cooperation is the current commonly used solution. ”
Zhuang Dingning thought for a moment and said, "What you said has some truth, let us think about it." ”
Li was overjoyed in his heart, and secretly said that it was more intelligent for professionals to speak and persuade the other party from a technical point of view.
In fact, like Google, they don't have much hope for a stake plan, and the joint venture is their main purpose.
As for why the two sides are so similar, it can only be said that they are both American-funded companies.
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In fact, Huawei's chips are not completely independent, and the infrastructure is licensed from ARM.
Software architecture refers to a set of related abstract patterns that guide the design of various aspects of a large software system, and is a sketch of a system.
The chip is actually more difficult to manufacture than the design, and the well-known etching machine and lithography machine are the main equipment for manufacturing chips. At present, China's etching machine is already very good, but the lithography machine is not good or cannot be manufactured.
Because it's a coherent production line, all the equipment has to be made.
Chip production is not only a high-tech industry, but also a high-input industry.
A top-of-the-line lithography machine costs 100 million euros, and the annual production and sales are only 18 units.
The investment in a plant is billions of dollars.
The key point is that it takes five years from the construction of the factory to mass production, and more than ten years to recover the investment, and with Huawei's current financial capacity, it is simply impossible to invest on its own.
At present, in the chip production industry, only the factories in the United States are fully invested by enterprises. TSMC and Taiwan Union Electric were first invested by the government, and South Korea's Samsung itself is a state-level enterprise, and its investment in chip factories is so-so.
Hynix is a joint venture between SK and Hyundai, two of Korea's largest national companies.
STMicroelectronics Europe is a national investment from Italy and France.
At present, SMIC, China's most advanced chip manufacturing company, is also invested by the state.
Jiangyan Company wants to make chips, and at the beginning, it also buys architecture authorization, and then optimizes it on the basis of architecture, and makes its own characteristics. Just like Kim Chol-chung said, a product has many development directions, and it must have its own competitive advantages.
"We are developing chips late, which is both a disadvantage and an advantage, and we hope to seize the business opportunities in the next decade and follow the trend to design chips. For now, intelligence is undoubtedly an important feature in the next decade, so we want to design our own chips around intelligence. Lin Yuxiang said.
"Not a bad concept, but with our capabilities, can we skip the traditional model and go directly to the field of smart chips?" Hang Yu asked.
"Of course, we can, but only if our company's intelligent technology is advanced enough, we need to cooperate with the intelligent R&D department. In addition, since we have developed smart chips, it means that it can only be applied to smart products. Lin Yuxiang said.
Hang Yu frowned slightly, there are many chip applications, and most of the current applications are not smart products.
"Not a bad concept, but with our capabilities, can we skip the traditional model and go directly to the field of smart chips?" Hang Yu asked.
"Of course, we can, but only if our company's intelligent technology is advanced enough, we need to cooperate with the intelligent R&D department. In addition, since we have developed smart chips, it means that it can only be applied to smart products. Lin Yuxiang said.
Hang Yu frowned slightly, there are many chip applications, and most of the current applications are not smart products.