Chapter 968: Blows
"After that, the Soviet Union and the United States rose as two billion-dollar industrialized countries, and finally it was our turn to be a billion-dollar industrial country. I think that the development of the Internet can also follow this law, the current population involved in the construction of the Internet is not much, but I believe that the demand for the population of Internet construction will inevitably increase in the future. Hang Yu said.
"Could it be that Hang Dong wants to cultivate talents in this area on a large scale?" asked Jack Ma.
"Yes, I think we should take advantage of our demographics and tap into people's spare time. Hang Yu told the other party about the plan to promote Chinese programming.
The Internet also has categories, such as search, navigation, office, PC, mobile, game, social networking, security protection, etc., which can be counted as a category of the Internet.
Are they all available in one category? Of course not.
For example, the emergence of navigation websites is already a familiar story.
Mobile terminals were also developed after the advent of smartphones, and online games did not come out of nowhere. The earliest online games are completely incomparable to today's, and who would have imagined that online games would feed so many people.
Many Internet product categories have been gradually developed with the development of science and technology, indicating that more categories will appear in the future.
For example, the recent popularity of artificial intelligence, virtual reality, and the Internet will form an industrial chain every time a category is added. And this industrial chain needs many people to fill, and with the increase of product categories, the scale will become larger and larger.
"The truth is correct, but is it not practical to increase the number of participants by promoting Chinese programming? Now many small Internet companies can't make any high-end products, what results can individual programming have." Is it necessary for users to have small products with no guaranteed quality, and will it affect the original order of the Internet?" said Jack Ma cautiously.
"To be honest, I can't answer you definitively, because I don't know how far the folk ape can go, and whether or not you participate in my plan depends on whether you are optimistic about this direction, that's all. I decided to do this because I was optimistic about the capabilities of my users, and I believed that promoting Chinese programming could enrich the Internet to some extent. Hang Yu said.
"I'm optimistic, what's in it for us to do this?" Jack Ma said.
Hang Yu thought that the benefits are very great, so I won't look for you, the promotion of Chinese programming is to benefit the entire Internet, if you want to achieve this purpose, the software can not be charged, and it must be very useful.
Only by cooperating with the promotion of the mini program can you benefit from it, but Hang Yu will not tell the other party the complete plan.
"I think I've figured it out, so let's get a professional to evaluate your plan. Because I don't know how to code, I have no way of judging whether this project has a future. Seeing that Hang Yu didn't speak, Jack Ma knew that this matter was not so simple, and he was fooling himself again.
But the plan proposed by Hang Yu, he is not easy to slacken, what if it is really beneficial?
Not to mention anything else, at least in the cooperation of international purchasing agents, Ali has really benefited a lot.
"No problem. Hang Yu nodded.
Then Jackma called a senior engineer over, named Chen Shuo, in his thirties, slightly chubby, and average-looking. Ali's senior engineer, there is no doubt about the technical level.
The first time he saw Hang Yu, Chen Shuo was quite respectful, but after listening to the plan of Chinese programming, Chen Shuo's expression gradually changed. From the beginning of the respect, it was obvious that he was a little skeptical of Hang Yu's IQ.
It may be that this plan had too much impact on him, so Chen Shuo forgot to hide, his expression was seen by Jack Ma and Hang Yu, and the atmosphere was suddenly a little embarrassing.
"Do you want me to tell the truth?" Chen Shuo hesitated.
"Although we speak freely, we who do business must not listen to lies, otherwise we will lose money. Hang Yu encouraged.
"Since Mr. Hang said so, I'm not welcome. Chen Shuo smiled, and then said: "I don't know which master of your company came up with this plan, as far as I can see, this plan is simply a stinky lump... You get the idea. ”
Hang Yu's face suddenly became very exciting, and Peng Lei couldn't hold back a smile on the side, feeling inexplicably happy.
When Jackma introduced the Chinese programming plan to Chen Shuo, he did not explain that Hang Yu proposed it, and Chen Shuo did not think much about it, thinking that it was proposed by engineers from Jiangyan Company, which is a normal idea.
It is precisely because of this misunderstanding that Chen Shuo is a little unscrupulous.
"Can you break it down in detail?" asked Jack Ma.
"You two don't know programming, you may be interested in the concept of Chinese programming, but from a professional point of view, there is no so-called English or Chinese programming, because the programming logic is completely different from the language logic we commonly use. Moreover, there are not many commonly used words in programming, and you can memorize them with a little snack, and the so-called programming threshold does not exist. If you don't want to learn even that bit of English, I don't think such a person can learn programming well. You're asking me this question today, and you're really asking the right person, because I happen to be in contact with people who use Yi Lingu. Most of them can't be called programmers at all, and their way of survival is usually to make plug-in software, which is generally low-level. To be honest, if your company really spends money to promote Chinese programming software, it will not only waste money, but also mess up the ecological environment of the Internet. If there are a million people in China who make plug-ins, how can your company survive? They're going to mess up your games, your social software, they're like a swarm of cyber locusts. Chen Shuo said in the end, using a more sharp analogy.
Jackma and Peng Lei looked at Hang Yu and found that he had no expression at all.
Those who are familiar with Hang Yu know that if he has no expression at all, it means that he is really angry.
"I admit that the current Chinese programming environment is not good, but since we want to do it, we naturally have to actively guide the industry. With our ability, I believe that we can bring Chinese programming to the right path. Hang Yu said.
"I also believe in your company's capabilities, but let me ask, will your company want people who have only learned Chinese programming? If your company hires such people, then I think this plan is still good." Chen Shuo said.
"It depends on his level and the level of the software. Hang Yu said.
"Then I regret to tell you that the countries dominated by Europe and the United States have been perfecting the field of programming for decades, and even with the ability of your company, or the ability of the whole of China, it is impossible to catch up with them. Chen Shuo said.
That's all too sure. Hang Yu said.
"I know what your Excellency is thinking, it's nothing more than a lot of high-tech that we have made, but I hope you can understand that the difference between the Internet and other high-tech is that it is an ecosystem that involves all aspects. The existing Chinese programming language does not have any innovation in concept, but has only changed the keyword, writing if as 'if' and return as 'return', which makes little sense. Because it is impossible for the most lo programmer not to remember those dozens of keywords, he only needs to understand the logical relationship, not the literal meaning of the keyword. On the contrary, the English alphabet is more compact. Moreover, this is not called a new language, the real value of a programming language is reflected in its design, what language features it has, which has nothing to do with the coding of keywords. Transform the compiler, any programming language can be programmed in Chinese. If you promote such software, IMHO, not only will it not have a positive effect, but it will reduce our overall programming level. It could have been possible to learn better programming methods, but wasting time on it because the so-called Chinese programming is more convenient, which will kill the future of a programming ape. Believe me, this plan has no real meaning other than a certain inflammatory nature. It will waste your company's money and get you a scolding without any gains. Chen Shuo said.
Because it involves Chen Shuo's major, and he himself hates the so-called Chinese programming, he is a little excited. Of course, Chen Shuo is not afraid of offending Hang Yu, anyway, he is Ali's staff.
Hang Yu stopped talking, because he didn't know how to refute the other party, and he couldn't compare with Chen Shuo's professional level. But it doesn't mean that Hang Yu has given up this plan, it's just that he needs to rethink how to implement this plan.
"Chen Shuo, I don't know what you've experienced before, but I want you to evaluate from a neutral point of view. Jackma said.
"Don't worry, I've always been sensible, and if you don't believe me, you can ask other engineers. Chen Shuo said.
"No need to ask, I didn't say anything about today. Hang Yu got up and said, "I'm sorry, I've wasted Mr. Ma's time for so long, next time I will definitely make amends to you." ”
"I don't lack anything but time, and I welcome Hang Dong to waste it often. Jackma said, "Actually, I often have some whimsical ideas, most of which are killed by these guys, but I don't give in. Although neither of us knows how to code, we all have one thing in common, which is that we love to think and think, and I think that's our common strength. ”
"yes, I knew we should talk more. Hang Yu said.
I have to admit that Jack Ma is really good at talking, Hang Yu was in a very bad mood, but he was relieved a lot by what he said.
Jack Ma personally sent Hang Yu to the car, and emphasized many times before that he hoped that Hang Yu would waste more time with him.
After Hang Yu's car moved away, Jackma looked at Chen Shuo: "You, next time you speak a little tactfully, even if this plan doesn't work, you don't need to emphasize the problem so sharply." ”
Chen Shuo said embarrassedly: "Didn't Mr. Hang tell me to say it directly, I was also afraid that Jiang Yan Company would make a mistake." Then he suddenly patted his head and said, "I forgot that Jiang Yan Company is our competitor, and I knew that I should support him." ”
"I'm just thinking about it now, it's too late, and you finally messed up a chance to hit Hang Yu. Peng Lei said.
"Blame me, I didn't think it that deeply. Chen Shuo said remorsefully.
"Is what you just said true, Chinese programming is so unbearable?" Jackma asked.
"It's 100% true, you can ask someone if you don't believe me. Chen Shuo said.
Jackma really asked the other engineers when he went back, and the answer was similar, but not as sharp as Chen Shuo. But Jackma could see from the eyes of those engineers that everyone had a contemptuous attitude towards Chinese programming.
Even so, Jackma didn't fully decide about it, because he knew that there were some things that were not necessarily correct for professionals or a large number of people.
With a 1 in 10,000 chance, Jackma went to learn about programming himself, and even went to learn programming, and found that it was similar to what everyone said.
But this time Jackma also overlooked one thing - he used to teach English.
The next day, Hang Yu had readjusted his mood and immediately listened to the progress of the talks with Google and Samsung after coming to the company. Samsung's side has just begun, and Google's side has already grasped the initiative, and Hang Yu is satisfied with this.
Hong Zhan was about to leave, but Hang Yu stopped him: "You often go to technology companies, did the program ape there say anything about me?"
Hong Zhan was stunned when he heard this, and asked rhetorically: "What do you mean?" He thought to himself: Could it be that the boss grabbed someone's pigtails, this is not something that is convenient for his assistant to mix, and it is not conducive to the unity of the company.
"What is the reaction of the programming apes to the Chinese programming plan?" Hang Yu asked directly.
"You ask this... To tell you the truth, the attitude towards this plan is not very positive. Hong Zhan said tactfully.
"I see, you go to work. Hang Yu waved his hand.
"Okay. Hong Zhan left with doubts.
Hang Yu is not unaware of the current Chinese programming environment, and he also knows that Chinese programming is difficult to become mainstream. Even small programs, in fact, do not necessarily have to be developed by promoting Chinese programming, because there are indeed many programming apes in China.
But Hang Yu still wants to do this, not because of patriotism, but because Hang Yu believes in one thing - if any technology is popularized to hundreds of millions of people, there will definitely be unexpected changes.
Hang Yu especially hopes that future netizens will not only post their own articles on the Internet, but also post their own small software and games on the Internet, or everyone will spontaneously join forces to make a product.
You don't need to treat this as a job, you just need to play it in your spare time.
It's like when we got off work and brushed Weibo without > but under Chen Shuo's blow, Hang Yu woke up to the fact that if we only did it based on ideals, most of us would fail. He must find a profit point and build a platform with Chinese programming as the core to make profits.
This platform is not an enterprise applet, because the users of Chinese programming are not enterprises, and enterprises will not program in Chinese. This platform has to be built for amateur programming enthusiasts, for those who want to make a little money in their spare time.
Of course, it's not exactly amateurish, just like Weibo> if something can make money, naturally someone will take the time to drill camp.