Chapter 62: The Duel of the King
"Hey, hey, is it Mr. Feng? We, Mr. Wei, will be online later, so I'm sorry for you to wait. ”
In the conference call, there were bursts of sweet and polite female voices, but they always had a bit of formulaic flavor and lacked human warmth.
"Ahri's people are really big, obviously they have researched, and they think we may have consulting value, but they didn't directly send Mr. Ma to talk to us personally. Shi Nicole pursed her lips, leaned against Feng Jianxiong's side, biting her ear and whispering. She hadn't pressed the speak button yet, so she didn't have to worry about being able to hear her from the other side.
In 06, the conference call was generally completed by special instruments.
Video conferencing is even more troublesome, limited by today's network hardware, and the picture quality is almost as bad as the newly born YY video chat room. If there is no dedicated line or LAN, the frame rate lag is very serious. So nowadays, many firms that play tickets will use video to talk about things, while large companies with real cards would rather not see people and only use conference calls.
In the face of Shi Nicole's complaints, the broad-minded Feng Jianxiong didn't care at all.
He wiped Nickole's hand off his shoulder, pressed the answer button, and said casually, "You're welcome, we can do it at any time." ”
"Thank you, Mr. Feng, for your understanding. The sweet female voice said coldly and politely.
After a while, it was replaced by the voice of a man in his 30s who spoke a little Chinese: "I am Wei Zhe." ”
It's very simple and simple, just four words.
Feng Jianxiong knew that people with status spoke like this, so he interrupted without hesitation: "Fortunately, Mr. Wei." It is a pleasure to serve your company. Let me start with an introduction, and today I and my assistant, Miss Nick Sil, will provide you with a consultation. ”
When you meet someone who introduces yourself and likes to report the title, you must not interrupt the other party when you are polite and say something for a long time, and you must let the other party finish the title. Because anyone who likes to report a title is often not very confident and needs a title to strengthen their aura.
And for those who say their names directly and don't talk nonsense, then they must pause for more than a second at most after the other party says their names, and then simply introduce our participants.
This is all Feng Jianxiong's experience in attracting clients accumulated by barristers for more than ten years in his previous life, and he will say what kind of things he sees when he sees what type of person.
It seemed that he was quite satisfied with Feng Jianxiong's straightforward attitude, Wei Zhe said bluntly: "Mr. Feng, congratulations on getting the project and getting good results - on that TV show last weekend, you provided some prospects for our company, and JACK was very attentive and dragged me and Lao Cai to investigate and discuss for several days." ”
Feng Jianxiong replied casually: "Yes? That's really sorry, I was completely heart-wrenching and whimsical at the time." I didn't expect to make a casual remark and cause you trouble - in this case, in order to show our sincerity, I can give you a discount on today's conference call, just give you a symbolic little bit. ”
"Hehe, I'm very confident. Wei Zhe's tone sounded a little sneering, and there seemed to be someone else next to him who was also whispering to him. Listening to that atmosphere, I should think that Feng Jianxiong talked about money as soon as he opened his mouth a bit too nonsense.
For a large company like Ahri, there are hundreds of law firms and business consulting companies that need to be contacted every year. Even if the law firm with high fees is, in the face of such a company, in order to prove its strength and attract clients, most of them will not directly negotiate money at the first contact (unless it is a specific litigation business).
In the operating model of many business consulting firms, it is good to be able to set the contract price before the formal presentation of the proposal. As for the collection of payments – in the business consulting world, it is almost industry practice that one-third of the project money is either not returned, or cannot be fully returned.
The collection rate of law firms that specifically handle litigation business may be better, but it is also related to the strength of the court's judgment enforcement - even if the client wins the lawsuit, but the defendant is a bad guy, and the judgment is not effective in the enforcement stage. If the client does not get the money, it is normal for the law firm to be in arrears for the same period.
With so many weak peers as a foil, Feng Jianxiong talked about money so lightly, which made people feel arrogant - you know, Ahri's side originally made an appointment this afternoon, but it was just a small talk, and he wanted to confirm the other party's vision and whether it was useful, so he didn't plan to give money.
In Wei Zhe's opinion, he and Lao Cai, a big man, are willing to take the time to evaluate Feng Jianxiong's performance, which is already a face-appreciating.
Fortunately, people with status don't have much to spare, so after "hehe", I quickly cut to the point:
"Listening to Mr. Feng's meaning that day, if we understand correctly, we should think that data service companies like ours should focus on the concept of 'big data' in the next few years.
Hearing this question, Shi Nicole couldn't help but feel nervous. So far, she has never met such a high-end client. Moreover, Wei Zhe is obviously an executive from the academy, and he has worked in a large multinational company, and that kind of qualifications and way of speaking are enough to coerce Shi Nico, who has not yet cleaned up the rustic.
However, anyway, today is mainly Feng Jianxiong's answer, and the girl still has time to be trained and studied.
"I said, those words are expedient, your company will not really be my words, just think this thing can be operated, right? I calmed down and thought about it, those concepts are still too advanced, or rather, this problem can be divided into two to see, big data, should be accumulated from now on, as long as the cost is taken into account, classified in advance, data folding, the future will not suffer.
However, customer behavior and habits, and even the 'Sesame Credit' that I casually talked about that day, I think it is obviously not feasible to enter the product-level research and development at present. ”
Feng Jianxiong's words can be described as a combination of rigidity and softness, with trade-offs and trade-offs, and the weight is also very secure. Laymen may not think that there is anything, but Wei Zhe and these Ahri executives are thinking about these questions every day. After a little chewing, I felt that the other party was at least a knowledgeable person.
In the past few days, Feng Jianxiong's investigation and understanding have also been confirmed.
……
"It seems that this guy is at least not an aggressive person, and he knows how to advance and retreat - if he had directly given some radical R&D advice just now, I would have thought that this guy would not be worth talking about. ”
Taking advantage of the intermission of the conference call, a man in his forties with Mediterranean glasses casually chatted with Wei Zhe, who was dressed in a high-end gold collar in the city and had his hairspray smeared with oil.
This middle-aged Xie Dingman, whose status in the Ahri Group is quite transcendent, thanks to his veteran qualifications, naturally has more say than the airborne vice president Wei Zhe - this is also the employment line of the boss of Ahri, in a company like Ahri, which has a good atmosphere of rivers and lakes, multinational giants poached airborne executives and made mistakes, which are all wrong routes. The eighteen arhats themselves made mistakes, and that was just a mistake in method.
This middle-aged man is naturally Cai Chongxin, Ahri's CFO, and also the bridge between Ahri's family and investors. At the beginning of the millennium, it was Cai Chongxin who helped Ma Feng bring in the relationship between SoftBank Sun Zhengyi.
It is said that with the things he is in charge of, this kind of avant-garde business information conference call is not usually seen to be observed. It's just that the strategy that Feng Jianxiong talked about that day had something to do with financial credit, so Boss Ma greeted him and asked him to come along and take ideas.
Feng Jianxiong's position of being old and well-weighed just now obviously changed Lao Cai's contempt and indifference at the beginning.
"Joe, do you also think that kid's rhetoric is a bit valuable?" Wei Zhe obviously attached great importance to Cai Chongxin's opinion, and asked for advice very humbly. He has just jumped from a multinational company this year, and his foundation is unstable, and although he has the title of vice president, he is still in a cautious state of doing things.
Cai Chongxin nodded calmly: "At least it's worth listening to, let's see his follow-up analysis." Also, don't ask me about the technical feasibility. ”
"Of course. Wei Zhe agreed.
Soon, they called the director-level heads of the two R&D departments, all of whom were data experts, to participate in the follow-up meeting.
The intermission ended quickly, and Feng Jianxiong's voice came from the other end. After some cross-examination, including the torture of the technical person in charge of Ahri's side, the topic focused on several major contradictions.
"Mr. Feng, you just said that in the next three or four years, the investment in the technology research and development of 'user behavior portraits' can be maintained, while the accumulation of big data should be 'invested as much as possible in the case of no obvious step increase in costs'? ”
The person who asked this question was the head of a technical department on Ahri's side, and of course the motive for asking the question was obviously authorized by Wei Zhe and Cai Chongxin. He just embellished it with technical translations.
"Engineer's opinion. On the other end of the conference call, Feng Jianxiong's slightly disdainful tone came, but he could hide it quite well,
"From a technical implementation perspective, data, algorithms, and processing power are obviously equally important. But from the perspective of competitive barriers, it is obvious that data is more likely to form monopoly barriers - in the next few years, once you do a user credit portrait and let your peers see the future, everything else is a short board that is easy to make up, only data is difficult to make up. ”
Feng Jianxiong's words, seven or eight years later, that is, after 2012~2013, any "entrepreneurial mentor" can say it. After all, the people of that era were instilled with the three views that "algorithm advantages will be easy to build quickly with the diffusion of technology, but big data is easy to be monopolized by platform giants".
Even if you just look at these issues from the perspective of 09 or 10 years, not to mention that passers-by understand this, at least the discerning executives of the top IT giants can understand this.
But alas, it's only 06 years now.
Feng Jianxiong casually said some opinions that were more than ten years ahead of his time, and with his strict and crooked reasoning of inverting the cause, it seemed that he was not a god, but also able to know the subtleties.
"Does he have a point?"
A familiar and slight voice came from behind everyone, and even Wei Zhe was too busy to stand up, and Cai Chongxin also turned around and nodded in greeting.
Sure enough, the person who came was an ugly man with strange bones, Ma Feng, the chairman of the board of directors of Ahri Group.
He had just finished an internal meeting, and when he heard the secretary mention the situation here, he took advantage of the gap between tea drinks to pretend to say a few words.
"It's a pragmatic young man, and he shouldn't be a person who talks a lot. Cai Chongxin turned sideways and asked Ma Feng to sit down, and commented pertinently.
Ma Feng smiled and nodded: "Then you continue, I'll listen to it - I'll take a fifteen-minute break, and you let him focus on the expectations of the 'establishment of online credit data', and ask him if he thinks this thing can be realized in a few years." ”
Wei Zhe considered his tone and lowered his voice to persuade: "JACK, WOULDN'T IT BE TOO PRAGMATIC TO ASK ABOUT THIS TECHNICAL OUTLOOK, AND WE OURSELVES DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE R&D CYCLE WILL TAKE. If the other party falsely states a time, and then makes up a bunch of arguments that look decent, we can't refute him, and to verify whether his statement is correct or not, I'm afraid we have to wait for the test of history. ”
"We can't estimate it ourselves?" Ma Feng asked Wei Zhe without being angry, and then turned to a technical person in charge beside him, "Xiao Chen, do you think this thing mentioned that day can be technically realized within a few years?"
Xiao Chen, who was asked, was obviously very nervous, and said crampedly: "Mr. Ma, this is not easy to say, according to his idea, to build a folding architecture of big data, this is at least two or three years of research and development cycle, but also to put into commercial verification, and then one or two years of maturity running-in, that is after 2010 and 11."
And then on the special credit algorithm, do software, do applications, less than seven or eight years later, that is, in 2013 ~ 2014, I don't see the possibility of commercialization of this thing - don't be too slow, even in Silicon Valley, a feasible architecture in a laboratory, to commercial application, at least five to seven years of incubation, so Silicon Valley angel investment talents generally support an exit period of more than 7 years, far more patient than domestic VC.
However, this figure does not take into account the additional unpredictable risks, and even changes in the external situation, in fact, if it is fast in 2012, it is possible after 2015, there are too many variables. ”
However, Ma Feng's reaction was beyond everyone's expectations.
He wasn't slow.
"Are you saying that as long as we are willing to invest and have the resources, we will be able to realize the kind of 'social credit data system' described by Feng Jianxiong by 2015 at the latest? He said lightly, "Well, you can talk to him about it, and if he also says that it can be achieved before 2015, then it is just a fool." ”
Everyone present was shocked, and couldn't understand why the boss suddenly wanted to get up quickly, but no one wanted to disobey him.
The broadcast button of the conference call was pressed down again, and the people on Ahri's side asked the question just now, as Mr. Ma thought.
"Mr. Feng, now please look forward, if we are willing to invest, and the external technical environment is also in line, how many years do you think we can realize the 'big data system of social credit evaluation' that you mentioned on TV?"
"Doing what I'm talking about? Technically, in 10 years. But it's not something that technology can decide. If you take all things into account, I don't think it will be possible to achieve it completely in 15 years. ”
"15 years, why are you so conservative?"