After listening to Xu Hui's words, James was noncommittal, wrote down some words in his notebook, and then looked up: "You just mentioned the market, do you think that purely in terms of movies, is the audience important or the movie itself?"

Nima, why did you bring up this topic again?

"I don't really want to answer this question, in fact, every movie I make is a true reflection of my own heart, and I prefer something warm and kind, so my movies seem to be evil..."

"You mean your aesthetic is just in line with the popular aesthetic?"

James is energetic, and when interviewing, once he touches the sensitive points of the other party, he often visits a lot of things with his true temperament.

"It should be said that I am a very firm believer in the beginning of human beings, and their nature is good. According to the division of film genres, I am naturally close to the style of Hollywood films, that is, the movies I make usually do not talk about any big truths, nor do they contain any philosophy or the like, my movies usually have stars to join, usually there are positive roles, there will also be negative roles, and the positive characters finally defeat the villain through a series of hardships..."

Xu Hui probably summarized the martial arts films he has shot in recent years, and it seems that this style is really true.

"But, if that's it..."

Before James finished speaking, Xu Hui continued: "For example, let's talk about the end of the movie, Hollywood-style movies, it will definitely be Happy Ending! Good people have good rewards, sins are redeemed, bad people are punished, etc., if such a film is taken to Europe and participates in the Cannes, Berlin or Venice Film Festival, first of all, it will be very difficult to be shortlisted!"

"European films belong to realism and avant-garde, and they think that the end of a good movie should be unsolvable, that is, the kind with no way out!"

"You must hold a large part of the first part of the movie in your heart, so that you feel breathless, and they think it's a good movie!"

"Or, the pursuit of sensory stimulation, such as blood, let's say sex..."

Xu Hui said for a long time, and finally stopped, James looked at him, and suddenly asked: "You know these things very well, why don't you try to make a movie about the award you are talking about?"

"Back to the movie itself, I myself can't accept such a movie, if you ask me to make it, I shouldn't be able to make it. ”

After thinking about it, Xu Hui gave an example: "A few days ago, they invited me to participate in the Busan Film Festival, although I didn't have time, but out of respect, I still turned over and watched all the films that have won international awards in South Korea in recent years, "Empty Room" directed by Kim Ki-deok, and "Old Boy" directed by Park Chan-wook, the sensory stimulation is very strong, but I can't feel anything other than sensory stimulation, so I should be a director who yearns for sunshine in my heart!"

"Whether I'm making a movie or watching a movie, I still hope that the story will have a way out, even if it's a false hope..."

"From this point on, your movie is indeed more in line with the public aesthetic!"

James concluded.

“… Yes, for example, "Huang Feihong", in fact, I changed the ending, changed it to the American fleet suddenly came down and a group of people directly rescued the bad guy, and forced the officials to release all the bad guys with a gun, Huang Feihong has a body of martial arts, but it is not as good as a pistol, and finally he lamented 'A weak country has no diplomacy!', and the artistic conception of the movie is immediately different..."

James nodded: "Yes, such a modification will indeed make people feel profound..."

"But if you change it like that, the audience will feel aggrieved..."

"Look, you still think about the audience, think about the market!"

"No, it's really not, I mainly think that I am comfortable watching the ending now, and it happens that the audience is also comfortable, so they will buy it, my movie must first reflect my heart, I can't pretend to be another kind of director in order to win awards..."

……

After chatting for about two hours, Xu Hui looked at the time, it was almost three o'clock in the afternoon.

"James, would you like some afternoon tea?"

"OK, I'm just a little hungry. ”

Let the little assistant go out and get some meals, put them on the coffee table in front of him, Xu Hui and James chatted while eating.

"Xu Hui, do you have a favorite director?"

"Of course, when I first started filming, my favorite director was Kubridge, then Cameron, and now I prefer Hirokazu Kore-eda, a Japanese director..."

Xu Hui replied casually while eating pineapple pie.

“… Is it Hirokazu Kore-eda?"

James paused for a moment, he flipped through his memory, as if he had never heard of this director.

Xu Hui suddenly woke up, it was Hirokazu Kore-eda who really became famous all over the world, it was the 2014 movie "Like Father, Like Son", of course, he also has a work called "Nobody Knows", it is this work In the summer of 2004, the young man with his own eyeliner Yumi Yanagi defeated other competitors including Liang Chaowei in "2046" with his heartbreaking performance in "Nobody Knows", and almost undisputed won the palm leaf...

But it's 2010, and Kore-eda may be a little better known in Japan, but in Asia, his films aren't much followed.

Fortunately, Xu Hui once studied Hirokazu Kore-eda.

“… I watched his "Keep Walking", I like this style of director very much, at first glance his works are very ordinary, but there is always a sensitive point that can hit you, and this sensitive point is very warm, representing the beauty of human nature!"

Finally got the topic back.

"What about your domestic directors, whose movies do you prefer?"

James didn't expect what Xu Hui had just experienced, so he asked casually.

"Zhang Yimou, Chen Kaige, Feng Xiaogang, the three big directors' movies, every time they are released, I will definitely go to see them, in fact, the directors of the previous generation in China, their level is very high, especially the three I said..."

"But their movies are completely different from your aesthetic..."

“… I think you have to see something different when you enjoy movies, although I make martial arts movies, I like to watch some movies of different styles, such as "The Godfather" that I never get tired of watching, such as Woody Allen's movies, and one person, Eastwood's movies..."

“… Do you have a favorite movie? other than The Godfather."

"I particularly like some old films, such as the martial arts films of the Shaw Brothers, the films directed by Hu Jinquan and Li Hanshen, and many of the scenes in my movies are learned from them. ”

"Do you have any new film plans after Once Upon a Time?"

"Next year, I will try to shoot a martial arts film in 3D+IMX, and after that, I may try a film with a larger scene, or a film with a more complex narrative structure..."