As the conversation continued, Toshio Suzuki, as the master of ceremonies, spoke less and less, while Sid and Old Man Miyazaki spoke more and more. Pen ~ fun ~ pavilion www.biquge.info

"What do you think is the ultimate goal of the work?" Sid looked across with burning eyes.

Old man Miyazaki stroked his gray hair steadily, and said with a slight smile: "No matter what kind of work it is, I just want to tell a story that reflects the true meaning of life in this increasingly chaotic world." ”

"However, most people probably only see intense and exciting adventure stories, like Princess Mononoke. Sid said with a mocking smile on his lips.

"That's enough," Miyazaki laughed, his smile gentler and more inclusive, "no one likes to be preached." Pursuing the metaphors and meanings behind the story is the job of philosophers and artists. For ordinary people, it is enough for them to be able to enjoy a wonderful story once, and if they can be touched, they will have the desire to watch it again. Then it is already the success of our artists. ”

After saying that, the old man Miyazaki looked at Sid with a smile and a word.

Sid shrugged his shoulders slightly and said, "For me, the work is more like an excavation. It is not only to dig into the world, but also to dig into the self. In the process of excavation, the little truth I find is the origin of my work, and it is also the best result that a work can achieve. ”

"Show the truth, and your own perception of it. I think it's a very good thing if a movie can make it a little bit clear. Sid's explanation made the entire room look thoughtful.

Old man Miyazaki secretly smiled, Sid is really like a sea, at first glance the sun is shining, a clear blue. But with the excavation, it can continue to bring fresh surprises and touches. This is not the depth that ordinary 19-year-olds can have!

Old man Miyazaki thought for a moment and asked a "very strange" question: "Are you an optimist or a pessimist?"

Sid raised an eyebrow at the question, he didn't expect Old Man Miyazaki to suddenly ask such a philosophical question, but he still replied: "No, it doesn't count." If something happens, I will first speculate on the intentions of human beings with the worst malice, and then treat it with the best expectations, but I will try not to be affected by the outcome. ”

"You're a realist. Old man Miyazaki said sharply.

"Yes," Sid said, furrowing his brow, and nodded, "Then I should be." ”

"There's nothing wrong with that, and so is me and Suzuki. Old man Miyazaki smiled and pointed to his old partner next to him.

Sid and Miyazaki couldn't help but laugh in unison.

The whole process of the conversation is actually very concise and simple, and Sid and Miyazaki ask each other questions. Although the two did not know each other well at first, or Sid, who was a man of two lives, had some understanding of Miyazaki, a master, from various news and documentaries.

But when he really faced this master, he would often encounter unexpected responses, for example, when Sid asked, "If you want to choose between a bad movie that makes money and a good movie that loses money, how do you choose?", Old Man Miyazaki directly said: "Then I'd rather retire and close the pen." ”

The whole room couldn't help but laugh.

As the conversation deepened, Sid felt that Miyazaki's unfathomable depth, and Miyazaki was repeatedly surprised by Sid's insight that did not match his age.

"Then you think that RB's new generation of filmmakers will be difficult to recreate the glory of the previous masters. Why do you think that?" Sid threw out a difficult question to answer, but in fact, there are different opinions on this question, and people in different positions will naturally have different opinions.

Managers will feel that the business environment and creative environment have deteriorated, and screenwriters will feel that it is caused by the producers' contempt for scripts caused by spoofs and bad movies to make money.

Old man Miyazaki thought for a moment and then replied, "Ease and assimilation." ”

"Ease and assimilation?" not only Sid, but everyone in the room had a puzzled expression.

Mr. Miyazaki went on to explain: "Among the filmmakers of the older generation, whether it is Akira Kurosawa or Yasujiro Ozu, although their styles are very different from the perspective of their works, they are actually all fighters. ”

"Whether it was demonstrations against the Japan-US security treaty or various strikes at the time, they were the kind of people who rushed to the front line. Therefore, their attitude towards their works is different from that of filmmakers now and in the future. ”

"Today's young people are too eager for comfort and comfort, and they can't help but bring this kind of thinking into their works. This makes today's works more and more superficial, especially those of large companies, which are more prone to this kind of problem. Old man Miyazaki's words made everyone in the room think.

Then Sid couldn't help but ask, "What about assimilation?"

Miyazaki explained: "This is actually determined by the RB culture, and the RB people are very much interested in collectivization and homogenization. This kind of behavior was very beneficial for the development of industry, but it was very detrimental to the birth of thinkers and artists. ”

"The excessive pursuit of homogeneity, while the collective unconscious criticism and suppression of alienated individuals, has stifled many innovative artists in the bud. ”

Old man Miyazaki's explanation convinced Sid, and at the end the old man added: "Just like Sid, aren't you an outlier? If you were in RB, you would never have achieved what you have today." ”

Sid smiled slightly: "To the American mainstream, I am indeed an outlier. I didn't teach my parents and I never went to church. ”

Sid's slightly self-deprecating words made everyone laugh.

As the conversation drew to a close, Sid quipped, "So, you shouldn't be retiring again, right?" Sid was teasing that after "Princess Mononoke", Miyazaki repeatedly emphasized retirement, but at the end of last year, he came out again to direct the current "Spirited Away".

As soon as Sid's question came up, everyone in the room couldn't help but laugh, and everyone thought it was just a joke. But the old man Miyazaki wrinkled his brows, and said after a while: "No, after the completion of "Chihiro", I plan to really retire. ”

NHK staff and reporters turned their heads to look at Miyazaki in surprise, and even his old partner Toshio Suzuki looked at him with concern, although they had talked many times about it, but the decision was ultimately in Miyazaki's own hands.

"What are you going to do when you retire?" asked Sid, unfazed.

"Grow flowers, raise dogs, just like an ordinary old man. Old man Miyazaki's answer did not surprise his old partner Toshio Suzuki.

But Sid then said, "Then you might as well keep doing it!"