Facts have proved that Wang Zhengguo's idea is still very reasonable, when he appears in the role of flattery, everything is much easier, even if some unprofessional "terms" and the like often pop up in the talks, Billmen still smiled and patiently explained, not even without any displeasure.

In my previous life, a professional teacher who taught technical secondary school, when he was involved in the military industry before, he may still be a bit of a military fan who can pretend to be cautious, and now the question comes: which teacher of a technical secondary school can be proficient in microelectronic integrated circuits?

This is obviously impossible, Wang Zhengguo can know the 6502 processor, it is already a very coincidental thing, if you really want him to say professional things, it is natural that he can't hold back a sentence when he is killed, so someone at this time is more like acting in his true colors.

Since he is acting in his true colors, he has always looked at Bilmens of the Republic with his old ideas and concepts in his heart, and it is absolutely impossible to see the problem.

"I can feel your sincerity, to introduce 65C02 processor related technology is not impossible, the company's gate is written in the western design center, indicating that our main business is chip design, the production they are engaged in is only a very small part of the same model of chips sold in the entire market, in most cases or the technology is licensed, using the way to collect patent fees to make a profit. ”

In the early days, the design and production of microprocessors were actually carried out separately, and there were design companies specializing in the design of microprocessors, and there were semiconductor factories that did OEM production, which was the same as the separation of factories in the aerospace field of the Republic, and there was no difference.

Like Intel, it is naturally an outlier, no way, who calls people have enough talents from the beginning, and the founder team is composed of design and production bosses, and in this case it must be a combination of design and production.

As for the other practitioners, most of them are design to design, production to production, and then the famous AMD company, this guy was actually a microprocessor factory specializing in copycat Intel at the beginning, and they didn't have any design capabilities.

The biggest reason why AMD was able to rise in the 90s was that Microsoft felt that it couldn't let Intel dominate, so it found another company specializing in microprocessor design for AMD, and after the fusion of the two, AMD finally began to have its own design capabilities.

Of course, it has also been proved that the early production of microprocessors should not have been separated from design and production, or more straightforward, but in highly complex industrial fields, the more difficult it is, the more factories should be combined.

But then again, in the eighties and nineties, the microelectronic chip industry, in the mode of separation of design and production, actually produced some fairly good professional factories, but the professional factories finally withdrew from the highly competitive field of personal PC microprocessors without exception, and were resurrected in the field of smart phones.

Needless to say, the British ARM company is a typical professional chip design company, but when this guy started in the 80s, he was actually ambitious to make microprocessors for PC computers, but he couldn't compete with the Silicon Valley giants.

The subsequent TSMC developed semiconductor chip foundry to the extreme, and this guy never thought about his own design at all, but people are not the same, is it a good life?

It's true that design and production are combined, but it seems okay to separate the two. The above assertion is naturally plausible in the entire field of microelectronic chips, especially after 2000, it is more convincing.

It's a pity that if you focus on the current 80s, if you want to survive in the fiercely competitive PC computer microprocessor field, the combination of design and production is a must, and only in this way can you fully integrate all the forces and improve the performance of the chip to the extreme.

To put it bluntly, in the era of PC computer processor hegemony, it is a group of heroes to open up the wasteland, at this time, as long as there is a little bit of performance improvement, it is enough to gain a great advantage in the competition, so the design and production can not be separated.

When TSMC and ARM were in full swing, they were all in the era of smart phones, and the microprocessors used in mobile phones at that time were all technical dividends left over from the PC microprocessor era, and there were almost no breakthrough requirements in the process.

With the processor process mature, it doesn't seem like a problem to separate design and production.....

If you want to choose between design and production, Wang Zhengguo personally actually prefers production, which is the most basic part of the planned optoelectronic empire, your design is not enough, then you can slowly catch up the day after tomorrow.

If you take 10,000 steps back, even if you can't narrow the gap in the later stage, as long as you can produce something, it will still be useful after all, and I'm afraid that if you can't even produce it, it will be miserable at that time.

For example, comparing the two aircraft of J-7 and J-9 in the early years, J-7 is naturally not as good as J-9, which is directly a crushing advantage in design, but why did the final J-9 have no results, and J-7 has achieved positive results and successfully branched out?

The reason is that one is subject to various reasons and cannot be produced, while the other is not very good, but it is born after a bump.

Feeling the profundity of this truth, Wang Zhengguo still continued to play his role, a little surprised and at the same time a little annoyed.

"You only do design, not related production work? If that's the case, then it definitely won't work, what we want is the ability to produce computer processors, as for design, then I don't care, I'll talk about it later." ”

But if you can't get the production technology, then this technology introduction will be meaningless, so Wang Zhengguo must show his determination in this aspect of production.

Looking back at Billmens' thoughts, since they are sure that this cooperation can be tried, they will let go of their courage, in fact, the 65C02 processor technology at this time has been licensed to several companies for production, and this is not the first time for him.

What's more, the 16-bit processor has been available for several years, DC as the first echelon boss in the field of PC computer microprocessors in the United States, the company now needs to update its products, and Bill himself is also working on the development of a new 16-bit processor, and now there is an opportunity to squeeze the value of the older generation of technology, which must not be let go.

As for whether there is a risk in selling the technology related to the 65C02 processor to the Republic, and whether the US government will stop it, he is not worried.

"Of course, there is no problem with the production technology, although DC is mainly engaged in microprocessor design, it does not mean that there is no production of processors, but our production scale is not too large, but the full set of technologies is available. ”

Standing up and inviting Wang Zhengguo to the floor-to-ceiling window of the office, Billmen was still very proud.

Pointing to the white building on the ground: "That is our company's production department, which still produces tens of thousands of chips every month, I believe that this production scale is enough for you to use, no matter how much you can't digest." ”

The monthly output of tens of thousands is actually not much, compared to the huge demand of the US market, and considering the global hot sales of 65C02 processors, the scale here is indeed very average.

However, we can consider it from another angle, and if a factory of this scale is moved to the Republic, it will definitely be enough, after all, the market digestion capacity of the Republic cannot be raised for the time being, and these outputs will be almost enough in a short period of time.