Chapter 1594: Too much
Zhou Jingju was very happy, and he always brought it to Su Songchang Town, and sold it to Bogu's house, although he was good at discriminating, he was also confused. There are hands to imitate Dingding and Dingqi Wenwang Ding furnace and beast-faced halberd ear Yi, all are realistic and unique, thousands of gold compete for the city, so far it is still rumored to say the cloud.
Chen Jiru's "Nigulu" said: Wumen Danquan Zhouzi can burn pottery seals, and chalk engraving seals can ward off evil spirits, turtles, elephants, and chain vanu, all of which are made of fire fan, and the color is as white as the text is ancient.
Zhou Danquan's imitation porcelain products were very expensive at that time; But he does not pass off imitations as genuine, even though his imitations are enough to confuse the genuine; He speaks the truth and speaks of credibility; Because of a high-quality imitation expert like him, the imitation that he imitated by his hand is also a beautiful collection.
In fact, this practice is similar to what the current high imitation masters do, from the beginning of making things, in fact, it is not for the sake of counterfeiting the real thing to sell, as for why it developed like that, it is really thanks to the auction house and antique dealers.
"Yunshi Zhai Pen Talk" said that a collector surnamed Tang in Changcheng bought a Ding kiln tripod of the Song Dynasty from a collector surnamed Jin in Zhencheng; As soon as this tripod arrived, the Tang family suddenly shined, and since then, the domestic evaluation kiln has been the first to recommend the Tang family's white dingding.
This tripod inheritance is orderly, this tripod was originally hidden in the Qushui mountain house of the Sun family in Changcheng, during the Hongzhi period of Chenghua, the master and Zhu Yunming, Wen Zhengming, Tang Bohu of Sucheng are friends who are irreversible; In the Jiajing period, the Sun family was declining, and the master's grandson sold this tripod to Jin Boling in the town.
It is a pity that this tripod later changed hands several times, and finally the tripod was abandoned and sunk in the Qiantang River.
So, can we still see the porcelain imitated by Zhou Danquan today?
"Jingdezhen Chronicles" said: The former Palace Museum has a piece of Zhou Danquan's delicate yellow cone for gluttony. It was exhibited at the International Exhibition of Chinese Art in London at the end of the Qing Dynasty, and it is now a treasure island.
This clue tells us. A delicate yellow glazed tripod made by Zhou Danquan is now in the National Palace in Taipei. In fact, as the only surviving porcelain tripod of Zhou Danquan, a master of melamine in the Ming Dynasty. It has been selected in the ceramic volume of "Selected Collections of the National Palace Museum in Taipei".
According to the introduction of the book, the tripod is 16 centimeters high, the diameter is 13.3 centimeters, the round tripod furnace body, the mouth edge is decorated with double vertical ears, the bottom is connected with three legs; The bottom is engraved with the words 'made by Zhou Danquan'.
It can be seen that Zhou Danquan was definitely an outstanding master craftsman during the Wanli period of the Ming Dynasty, and perhaps it was really with such a master craftsman that the Ming Dynasty's Sucheng was achieved. Interestingly, according to Li Rihua's "Weishuixuan Diary", Zhou Danquan can also make inkstones, and the price is like gold.
It should be noted that Yuan Hongdao was the county magistrate of Wu County in the 23rd year of Wanli in the Ming Dynasty, and the last time he left Sucheng was in the 26th year of Wanli; Jiang Yingke's appointment as the commander of Changzhou County was the 20th year of Wanli in the Ming Dynasty, and the last time he left Suzhou City was also the 26th year of Wanli; The time recorded in Li Rihua's "Weishuixuan Diary" is the 39th year of Wanli in the Ming Dynasty.
It can be inferred. The glorious period of Zhou Danquan's artistic achievements was the Wanli period, and the place where his artistic peak was achieved was his hometown of Sioux City.
Liu Dabin's idol is this Zhou Danquan, which is actually normal, Zhou Danquan is a high-level imitation. The character is still quite good, Liu Dabin is also a high imitation, and the idol is selected to Zhou Danquan. It's just normal.
However, Zhou Danquan's Ding Zhang Tianyuan really didn't pay much attention to it, and he had been to Treasure Island several times before. I've also been to the National Palace in Taipei, but I just haven't seen this thing. I don't know if it was because I was too anxious at the time, or if the other party didn't put it out at all.
"Zhou Danquan, a very powerful character, if you have the chance, I can take you to Baodao to see his works." Zhang Tianyuan smiled.
"That's a great thank you. By the way, Brother Zhang, I have a doubt, you are the first person to see that my thing is fake, so how did you see it? ”
It's not bragging, to be honest, Liu Dabin is very confident in his high-imitation things, let's just say that those Tang Sancai and purple clay pots, whether in terms of materials or firing process, are absolutely top-notch, and even the similarity with the real product can reach more than 90%.
In Liu Dabin's opinion, even if he goes to do a scientific and technological test, no matter what carbon 14 or something else, it is useless, and it is impossible to test that his thing is a fake. Even if he admits that it's fake, the machine will say it's true, and it's not unprecedented.
Because of this, Liu Dabin is very strange, how did Zhang Tianyuan see that what he made was a fake, which is also a bit too powerful.
"Hehe, Brother Da Bin seems to have forgotten. What you're doing is good and almost perfect, but it's not 100% similar......"
Zhang Tianyuan has always called Liu Dabin Brother Dabin, on the one hand, because the other party is older than himself, and on the other hand, of course, out of admiration. After all, this Liu Dabin doesn't have his six-character true trick, nor does he have his earthiness, but he can imitate such a magical high imitation, just in this regard, he is far behind, call Brother Sheng, that's not a problem.
"You're right, it's not 100 percent, I believe that no one in the world can reach 100 percent of the imitation, after all, there is no 100 percent of the same thing in this world, even if it is two porcelain vases that look exactly the same made by modern technology, there are differences, not to mention imitation of the ancients. But that's not the point, even if it only reaches 80% similarity, it is definitely a very good imitation, and the average expert can't see it at all, let alone achieve more than 90% similarity. Do you have experience in this area? Liu Dabin said and spoke, and suddenly felt another meaning in Zhang Tianyuan's words, so he hurriedly asked, if Zhang Tianyuan really has the ability to do this, he and she really want to learn, if he can make his high-imitation works more perfect, he can't ask for it.
Zhang Tianyuan smiled, and instead of answering Liu Dabin's question, he asked, "Brother Dabin, what do you think is your goal in making these Tang Sancai and purple clay pots?" ”
Liu Dabin was stunned for a moment, he didn't understand why Zhang Tianyuan asked this, but he still answered truthfully: "Of course, it is to catch up with the technology of the Tang Dynasty, as well as the skills of the masters of the purple clay pot, if you can imitate the blue out of the blue is better than the blue, it would be better......"
Although he answered Zhang Tianyuan's question, Liu Dabin still didn't understand why Zhang Tianyuan asked this, what does this have to do with his high imitation?
In fact, he not only imitated Tang Sancai and purple clay pots, including porcelain from the Ming Dynasty, but also imitated plum vases that he had learned from his father.
Keep improving, what's wrong with that?
"Brother Dabin, you are a smart brother, you really didn't realize that there was anything wrong with this? Think about it again and see what's wrong here, you're an expert in high imitation, I think you should be able to figure it out. Zhang Tianyuan said with a smile.
"Oh, I said Brother Zhang, don't beat around the bush, although I'm not stupid, I don't have so many eyes. You're going to say I'm gifted with ceramic, I'll admit it. But I really don't understand this twisted thing, so you can just tell me. Liu Dabin scratched his head, he really didn't understand why Zhang Tianyuan said this.
"Well, I'll just get straight to it. You're not setting the right goal. Zhang Tianyuan explained.
"The goal is wrong? What's wrong with the goal? I want to surpass my predecessors, I want to keep improving, I want to be better than the blue, and I have even done it. Some of my purple clay pots are even better than some masters', I succeeded, why not? Liu Dabin said unconvinced.
"Let me give you an example. Suppose a manufacturer wants to imitate Apple's mobile phone, but his goal is to make a better and more perfect mobile phone than Apple's mobile phone. Then there's a problem, since you want a copycat, you still have such high requirements for yourself? In the end, others will definitely find out that you are not from an Apple phone. Zhang Tianyuan explained.
"I seem to understand a little, you're saying that the reason why my things aren't similar enough is not that I don't have that ability, but because I'm too late?" Liu Dabin thought for a while and asked.
"You've thought of it. If you're just trying to get your skills on it, it's a good goal, and it's even a good idea, and if you imitate the Apple phone and create a better phone, it should be a better creation. But if you just want to make a high imitation, this is a bit too much. Originally, the purple clay pot made by the ancient masters was eighty-five points, and if you have to make something ninety-point, of course there will be a difference in the similarity with it......"
In fact, Zhang Tianyuan prefers Liu Dabin's current approach, but this truth makes sense, doing high imitation and the pursuit of technology itself is not contradictory, but it is definitely not complementary to each other, when your technology reaches a certain level, the goal of doing high imitation will become a constraint on you, you have to do everything like the ancients did, which will make your technology unable to progress.
Therefore, Liu Dabin's current approach is actually right, but it is not suitable for high imitation.
Zhang Tianyuan's words made Liu Dabin understand at once why he had done so many things, but the more he did it, the more he felt that the gap between him and the original works of the ancient masters was getting bigger and bigger.
It turned out to be a weird curve, and after reaching the apex, it went in that direction, which was a bit too much.
"Brother Zhang, I didn't expect you to see the problem so accurately at such a young age, so if you say this, the reason why my Tang Sancai and purple clay pots are seen by you to be high imitations is this reason? But it's not right, even if it's for this reason, you can convince me, but you definitely can't convince Tang Batian, I know what kind of character that guy has, so he won't believe it for such a specious reason. What's more, if you just flip his mouth up and down and say that his things are fake, it's good that he doesn't rush with you. ”
Liu Dabin, this guy is really not as inflexible as he said, these words are actually the best example, he asked directly at this time, Zhang Tianyuan has to tell the truth. (To be continued......)