This time for the Volkswagen wide-angle lens, we chose the protagonists in the two things mentioned by many people on the Internet recently, Li Shunkui and Song Feibi. Some people say that they are artists and should not appear on the social page, but after digging out what they have done, the entire editorial department believes that they should be given a chance to speak. The following is a transcript of their interview.

Reporter: Why did you think of learning sign language?

Sunny: When I was in junior high school, I volunteered to help the deaf and mute, but I couldn't help them immediately because I couldn't communicate. When I went home, I thought about whether they would get into trouble if they went out on the street and encountered something they couldn't communicate, and if they encountered too many troubles, would they not dare to go out on the street? The next day, I told Phoebe that Phoebe said that then let's go learn sign language, and I thought that as long as one more person could know sign language, I could help people in time when they met someone in need, so Phoebe and I went to a school for the deaf and dumb to learn sign language.

Reporter: Are you struggling to study? Have you ever thought about giving up?

Sunny: It's very difficult, after all, for normal people, it is enough to speak when expressing, and learning sign language is learning a new language, and it is body language. You know, I was not only a student, but also a trainee, so I was very tired every day. But I never wanted to give up, because Phoebe was always there for me, encouraged me, and practiced using sign language with me.

Reporter: How long did you study? What do your parents think? Have you met anyone who doesn't understand you?

Sunny: I've been studying for about a year. My family was very supportive of my decision, just as they supported me as a trainee and artist. As for those who do not understand, there are also, mainly those who are deaf and mute. Hehe, it's weird, isn't it? They all thought that I could write and communicate with them, and there was no need to learn sign language.

Reporter: Why don't deaf people understand your behavior, have you asked them?

Sunny: Actually, I did, but they said it when I was talking to them after learning sign language. I felt a little heartache at the time, they were used to other people ignoring their feelings.

She said this, sighed, shook her head, and said: But I think that the reason why there is a gap between people is caused by some small things. Like I am a normal person, when I write and communicate with them, I can be said to be always reminding them and myself that I am different from them, and I am here to pity them. But I feel that they don't really need pity, but real recognition, so learning this language, communicating with them on an equal footing, making them forget that I am different from them, at least can make me feel at ease.

Reporter's postscript: Hearing Sunny's answer, I was speechless for a long time, thinking back to some of the current charity activities, our starting point as normal people to help people in need is good, but it seems that we have never thought about the mood of people who receive help. The heart of the girl in front of her shone like the sun, just like her name.

Reporter: Actually, I have already investigated some of your information before coming to interview, and I found out that you set up a sign language learning club at school and teach sign language to interested students.

Sunny: yes, that's right, I've been studying for almost a year, and when I talk to them, I find that they started talking to me what they couldn't say when they used to use pen and paper. They told me that in fact, they also have low self-esteem, and when they pluck up the courage to go out on the street, they should try to observe their surroundings so as not to run into others, because if they accidentally bump into them, because they can't express their apologies like normal people, it is very troublesome when they meet some people with bad tempers. It is also more troublesome when buying things, and there are many difficulties that we normal people can't imagine. So I thought, if 1 in 10 people can sign language, wouldn't it make it easier for them to travel, and maybe it would also reduce their low self-esteem and timidity? So I asked Phoebe what she thought, and she thought my idea was very good, so I decided to start this club at school.

Reporter: When was the club formed, and how many students learned sign language?

Sunny: It was when I was my freshman year of high school, and it's only been two and a half years now, so I haven't been involved since I'm making my debut. At that time, when I decided to form a club, I went to the teachers of the school for the deaf and dumb to help, and summed up some gestures that are more commonly used in life, there are ninety-eight. After all, the main task of the students is to study, and learning sign language is just for everyone to be able to help people in difficulty outside, not for in-depth conversation, of course, if they are interested in learning, we will also help them learn and practice.

As for how many students have learned, well, in the first year, there were about 40 people in the whole school, and in the second year, there were about 200 people, after all, there were only two people teaching at the beginning, which was not very efficient. Hehe~ And then there are almost 20 people, who study very hard, work hard, master about 2,000 gestures, and can already chat with deaf and mute.

Reporter: In other words, at the beginning, the only people in this community who could really teach sign language were you and Phoebe?

Sunny: Well, that's right.

Reporter: So have you carried out propaganda and have you organized volunteer activities?

Sunny: I didn't advertise it, but I just said on the school radio that there was a club that interested students could come. In the first year, many seniors came to study, but at the beginning, only Phoebe and I were teaching, and occasionally teachers from the deaf school would come. After the teachers learned about this club, they promoted it a lot.

As for volunteer activities, I don't think I'm qualified to organize, after all, I'm just a student, and when I can't support myself, participating in volunteer activities is the limit of my ability, and if I organize such activities, it's a bit of putting the cart before the horse. After all, before helping others, you must first do your own things well, and you can't let yourself become a burden to society and family, right? Also, the purpose of our club is to learn sign language and help others when they are in trouble, rather than forcing people to help others, which I find very offensive.

Reporter's postscript: Very simple cognition.

Reporter: You just said that Phoebe also went to the club to teach sign language, and she also went to your school?

Sunny: No, Phoebe actually dropped out of school in the first year of junior high school because she couldn't get close to her classmates at school because of her facial recognition disorder. Her SAT score was the result of her self-study. At that time, her grandmother also passed away, although she had face recognition disorder, but Phoebe didn't want to rely on others to take care of her, so she went to work outside, successively worked as a cook, car repair technician, electrical repair technician, etc., when I formed the club, Phoebe came to help me every day after work, because at the beginning I was the only one to teach, it was too difficult. As for the relationship between the two of us, hehe, I think it's sisters. Phoebe, what do you think?

Phoebe: I'm very dependent on my sister.

Reporter: So Phoebe, do you have any thoughts on Sunny's decision?

Phoebe: Absolutely.

Reporter: What are your thoughts on learning sign language to help deaf people?

Phoebe: I'll help you do whatever Sister Sun wants to do, I don't have any special ideas.

Reporter: Did you encounter any difficulties when learning sign language, and did your family members have any opinions?

Phoebe: There are difficulties, because since I am studying, I will check it carefully. It turns out that sign language is different in all countries of the world, so sometimes it is very difficult because being able to understand and be able to express are different. As for my family's opinion, I seem to know that I am an orphan, right?

Reporter: I'm sorry, it's just a habitual question. I'm sorry

Phoebe: It's okay, you can never expect too much from someone you don't know, can you?

Reporter: Yes, I'm sorry. So let me continue, how long have you been teaching sign language at Peihua Female High School?

Phoebe: About a year, after a year a lot of people have learned, I don't have to go again.

Reporter: So in this year, you didn't remember a student of Peihua Female High School?

Phoebe: yes.

Reporter: Actually, everyone is also curious about your face recognition disorder, can you talk about it? Also, how do you remember Sunny?

Phoebe: According to what I've found myself, part of the cause of this disease is brain damage. As for how to remember Sister Sunny, I don't know either. To remember is to remember.

Reporter's postscript: When Phoebe said this, Sunny held Phoebe's hand worriedly, as if to transfer strength, and also seemed to be pulling Phoebe, it seems that the relationship between the two is really good. Phoebe smiled at Sunny as well.

Reporter: So for people you don't remember, for example, your current group members, how do you distinguish them?

Phoebe: Well, it's just a matter of markers, so I won't say what they are.

Reporter's postscript: At this time, Sunny smiled and raised his left hand, and I saw a bracelet with a very fashionable appearance, and the pattern on it was also very strange, it seems that it is the logo that Phoebe uses to remember people. Later, when taking pictures, the reporter paid attention to it and found that everyone in Girls' Generation had a bracelet.

Reporter: So how do you remember the people you have to remember? Can't you distinguish others by the sound of your voice?

Phoebe: Actually, it's very troublesome and tiring, and I usually remember it through my hairstyle, clothes, accessories, and glasses, but as long as someone else changes, I can't tell who it is. As for the speaking voice, it's easy to be deceived.

Sunny: Phoebe dropped out of junior high school because she was deceived by someone else's recorded teacher's voice, so Phoebe never went to school again.

Reporter's postscript: It can be seen that Sunny is still very emotional about what happened to Phoebe at that time, so I suddenly understood that she was born with a warm heart for others, and maybe this is the reason why Phoebe can remember her.

Reporter: So is it tiring to live in a world of strangers every day? As an artist, will it have an impact in this regard?

Phoebe: I'm used to it, it's mainly the insecurity that strangers bring to you, and I think everyone has that feeling, but my uneasiness is particularly strong. As for the inconvenience of artists, there are also some things, for example, I still don't know our agent, so it's very troublesome, but fortunately, we are a group, and there is always a sister who stays by my side with me, so I can overcome it. In addition, the company also agreed that I could refuse a solo trip, which is very considerate of me, so I will try to do it well.

Reporter: So Phoebe, since you have such a problem, why did you choose to be an artist?

Phoebe: Actually, I wanted to apply for a job as Sister Sunny's assistant at first.

Sunny interjected: Actually, Phoebe is very talented, but she just can't meet the living, at the beginning I persuaded Phoebe to participate before I went to ** to participate in the assessment, and I was still thinking about debuting together, but Phoebe has always disagreed. The night before the assessment, I asked her to apply for an assistant, and she finally agreed. Phoebe accompanied me to the ** company, but was seen by the people of the ** company, I think the image is very good, Mr. Li Xiuman took the initiative to invite Phoebe to participate in the special examination, at that time Phoebe's talent shocked all the teachers who participated in the supervision and assessment, so they all persuaded Phoebe to be an artist, knowing Phoebe's concerns, but also took the initiative to propose the contract terms that the itinerary can be selected by Phoebe, so Phoebe debuted with us.

This concludes the two-hour interview. These two girls, who have been supporting each other since childhood, one is called by her companions to have a sunny heart, exuding a warm light all the time, from supporting sisters, to striving for progress, to caring and understanding others, blooming like our national flower. On the other hand, there is a disease that ordinary people have never even heard of, and her life experience is also pitiful, but she is constantly striving for self-improvement, and she has been trying to overcome difficulties and work hard to live. Although both of them have chosen the bumpy road of becoming artists, I believe that the light of their lives will eventually warm the hearts of everyone who has heard of their deeds.

Reporter's postscript: After the interview, the two beautiful girls who were about to leave also greeted all the staff on the scene one by one, note, it was all the staff, not only me and the editor, but also all our assistant staff, some of whom I had never greeted, and even some positions did not even know about the change. Seeing that they are really people who can warm people's hearts, seeing their behavior, I can't help but be curious about their combination.