Hearing Shen Lin's question, Ma Dong and Guo Degang looked at each other. Pen, fun, pavilion www. biquge。 info

"I asked my father about this. ”

It was Ma Dong who opened his mouth first, "My father's character just doesn't want to talk about these things, he doesn't speak, everyone thinks he is ashamed to speak, it's hard for me to tell you the cause and effect of this incident, but the old gentleman who is still alive now still knows the cause and effect of this incident, Huang Hong's father, Mr. Huang Feng, he wrote me a piece of paper, which recorded all the information about this matter." In fact, in my opinion, there is no need, anyway, if you want me to say, no!"

Guo Degang also spoke: "I also asked my master, Hou Yaowen, about this, and I asked when the second uncle, Mr. Hou Yaohua, was with him, I asked my master first, and my master said categorically, 'No!' I asked the second master again, and he also said, 'No!'"

"Now you have to find out who spread this matter, is it possible? In my opinion, being misunderstood is an expression of fate, so let him go, it's a kind of history anyway!"

"And even if we come forward to explain this, there will definitely be people who don't believe it!"

"Yes, people prefer to believe in dramatic endings!"

Is this a union between the two? What else can Shen Lin say about this?

Well, just believe it!

"Let's talk about something else, let's talk about the spread of the art of cross talk!"

Ma Dong took the initiative to change the topic.

"Let's cross talk, as soon as it opens, it is a flyover and a face-to-face, and then I entered the teahouse, and then I entered the theater with an audience of five or six hundred, and then there is radio, and after the radio is TV, let's say that cross talk is not adapted to TV, and the cross talk on TV always feels a little lacking, and then your Deyun Club small theater has risen, and the change in the mode of communication determines the change in the content of cross talk, I especially want to hear what you think about this topic!"

This product is obviously the host's fault, and he actually took the initiative to ask, is there a guest like you?

However, Shen Lin liked to listen to it very much.

"Let's go to the overpass at the beginning and say this cross talk, the old gentlemen are wearing something, the two face each other, and they surrounded a circle of people, so to speak..."

"Wow, face to face, aren't they standing side by side?"

Shen Lin couldn't help but be surprised.

"It's face to face, let's call it a painting pot, and this circle is my pot..."

"Isn't there a table inside and outside the table?"

Ma Dong estimated that it was the first time he had heard this, and he hurriedly asked.

"No, there may be a table, which is reserved for the eldest young master of the rich family, let him sit and listen. ”

"Is it all meat on the street?"

"It's not all about scoring occasions. ”

"Yes, there may be female dependents. ”

"Female dependents can't appear in there, as long as there are women, they will definitely be blown away, I think this is the last means for artists to maintain their self-esteem, in front of other women, we can't spread spring. ”

Guo Degang was obviously interested.

"Later, when I came to the teahouse, it was different. ”

"The teahouse is the land owned by the owner, and the people have to pay the rent..."

"I can invite you, it's just that I like your level! How much money do you get a month, I have to get the owner of the teahouse to approve of me!"

"Yes!"

"When I arrived at the teahouse, my identity was different, it was a little higher than the status of the artists on the street, at least I had a stage. ”

"This was the case throughout the Republic of China!"

"And relatively speaking, the status of cross talk artists is relatively low, no matter how good your cross talk is, you are also the penultimate show in the teahouse, and the finale is always singing the drum!

"I think this process is very important, in fact, many classic programs appeared during this time, and there were also a lot of famous artists, such as the five cross talks of Jinmen and the Chang family!"

"Then in the 80s, the TV media began to rise, and a large number of cross talk actors appeared!"

Speaking of this, Guo Degang deliberately paused.

"I know you're indignant about this history!"

Ma Dong joked with a smile.

Shen Lin also laughed.

Guo Degang fiercely criticized the cross talk actors who appeared during this period in "On the Status Quo of Cross Talk for Fifty Years".

"Hey! I'm not as angry as I was back then, in fact, looking back, existence is reasonable! If I had been a young actor in that club, I would have to do this, and if I didn't do this, what else would I do?"

"Hehe, so what exists is reasonable. ”

"Until the early 90s, sketches gradually came up, and the people, including the actors themselves, said that cross talk couldn't do sketches. ”

"It's a result of a change in the way it spreads!"

Ma Dong has always played the role of a supporter.

"I entered the capital three times, the first time was in 88 and 89, when I participated in the cross talk competition, and I also went out to perform with the quyi troupe, until 95 and 96, I dreamed of becoming such an actor..."

"Are you referring to the kind of actors in the system that you often satirize?"

Shen Lin suddenly answered.

"Yes!"

Lao Guo replied very honestly.

"I was really envious of those actors at that time, wearing a small suit and smearing a red mouth, and I always felt that it would be a wonderful thing if I could record a show on TV like them, participate in a Zhengda variety show or something!"

"I'm so glad you can say that!"

Ma Dong answered faintly on the side.

He is also quite painful, because the institutional actors that Guo Degang said were all started by Mr. Ma Yu!

On the one hand, it is the reason for the censorship, and on the other hand, the work is not endless, and it is useless to be tired to death, so they will give you 12 minutes, and they also designate you to talk about family planning cross talk, what can you do? Colleagues chatted together and said, just 12 minutes, don't say more, don't admit it if you talk too much, you are so confused, you are also fooled, I am also fooled, this line of work is definitely over! I was also very confused at that time, and I couldn't see a way out!

"Then why did you embark on the road of revitalizing cross talk?"

The interviewer became Shen Lin.

"In fact, I didn't say that I wanted to revitalize cross talk at the beginning, which was all labeled by some media later. ”

"I remember one summer, I was in a teahouse, said a paragraph "Selling Cloth Head", I was particularly impressed, the teahouse is in the glass factory, not big is about 20 square meters, the house is crowded with people, when I finished speaking, the applause was thunderous, the applause can almost knock over the beams!"

"I just thought about it, it turns out that the audience doesn't like to listen to cross talk, they like it!"

"Therefore, cross talk should be performed in the theater!"