The biggest obstacle in this initial operation is not technology, but capital, that is to say, the network industry is actually just a business game for the rich.

After settling the bill, the two of them went downstairs with a smile and a smile, preparing to return to the International Convention and Exhibition Center to continue the summit in the afternoon.

When Sheng Wei went downstairs, she couldn't help but hang her handbag by the metal flowers and leaves on the cast iron handrail next to her, although the strap of the handbag was not broken, but her own body was crooked, lost her balance, and fell down the stairs top-heavy.

Fan Wuxi's reaction was extremely fast, and before Sheng Wei fell, his body had already jumped over one step ahead, grabbed Sheng Wei's body, and hugged her by the waist.

At this time, Sheng Wei had time to exclaim in discoloration, "Ahhh

But before Fan Wuxian had a chance to comfort the beauty, he heard someone shouting angrily, "That kid, what are you doing holding my wife?!"

Fan Wuxian was stunned for a moment when he heard this, and then he found that there was a young man upstairs with a red face exuding the smell of wine, pointing at himself and angrily condemning loudly.

Chapter 619: The Fifth Power

Wang Meng stood upstairs, his heart burning with anger.

Although it is said that the relationship between himself and his wife Sheng Wei has continued to deteriorate for a while, and he has made trouble to the point of preparing for divorce, but at this time, he actually witnessed his wife being held in the arms of other men in public, and a man would feel angry.

Yes, he had two more drinks at noon today, but that didn't prevent him from being able to recognize whether the young man's bosom was his wife.

In the morning, the colleagues in the unit celebrated one of the friends that he had jumped to an Internet company as the chief financial officer, so they met together for dinner to celebrate, and by the way, I wish this friend a prosperous future and be able to become a billionaire like Yang Zhiyuan, and the brothers will rely on him to make a little fortune in the future.

For this matter, Wang Meng and others came to this hotel together.

Speaking of this hotel, Wang Meng is no stranger, he and his wife Sheng Wei have not been here a lot, so the environment of this hotel is very familiar, because it is cheap here, so it is also one of the favorite places for him and his colleagues to come to consume.

But in front of me, I actually saw myself and my wife was held in the arms of another man, although it is said that the husband and wife have been separated for a long time now, but as a man, how can I endure this kind of thing?

Not to mention, in the private room upstairs, there are seven or eight of their colleagues who are drinking, if they see this, they must not despise themselves in their hearts!

"Your husband?" Fan Wuxi glanced at the young man, and then asked Sheng Wei in his arms with some uncertainty.

"Quasi-ex-husband-ah-" Sheng Wei replied with some resentment, and then she struggled to stand up from Fan Wu's sick arms, ready to go downstairs by herself, but unexpectedly, although she only twisted her ankle a little just now, she already felt the pain in her heart at this time, and couldn't help but snort softly.

"Twisted your foot?" asked Fan Wuxian.

"Hmm-" Sheng Wei nodded, then glanced at the obvious drunk Wang Meng, and said to Fan Wuxian, "I have to trouble you to send me downstairs, I'll call my sister in the car and ask her to come and pick me up." ”

Fan Wuxi nodded, then pointed to Wang Meng, who was playing drunk and crazy upstairs with the railing, and said, "Then what should he do?"

"It has nothing to do with me—" Sheng Wei replied hatefully.

Fan Wuxian no longer paid attention to Wang Meng who was shouting on the railing, and directly carried Sheng Wei downstairs, then found her car, put her down sideways on the back seat, kept the injured ankle from compression, and then turned out Sheng Wei's mobile phone to watch her call her sister.

But it's a pity that Sheng Wei dialed several times, but no one answered, and couldn't help but say a little discouraged, "This dead kid, where did he probably go crazy again!"

"Oh, if it doesn't work, I'll drive you back. Fan Wuxian hesitated for a moment and then said, "But your quasi-ex-husband, won't make any trouble, right?"

"I am now living in my own house with my sister, and I am already going through the divorce process with him. Sheng Wei's chest rose and fell a little, obviously angry by Wang Meng's behavior just now.

It's just that the divorce procedures of the two people have not yet been completed, otherwise, there would be no need to pay attention to this prospective ex-husband at all. As for now, when I met him outside, I still felt a little noisy.

Sheng Wei's home was not too far away, Fan Wuxian drove the car, and it didn't take long to find a place, then packed up his things, parked the car, and carried Sheng Wei upstairs.

"My car doesn't feel very comfortable to drive, isn't it? Mr. Fan, you usually drive top sports cars-" Sheng Wei was hugged by Fan Wuxi, thinking that this was a super young rich man, he couldn't help but feel a little strange in his heart, and his face was a little red, so he casually found a topic and asked.

"It's good, in fact, I usually only drive ordinary cars produced by my own company, and this car is occasionally driven, that is, to show off. Fan replied after a snort.

Sheng Wei's house is not small, three bedrooms and two living rooms, the area is about 120 square meters, the room is more petty bourgeoisie, a room is used as a studio, there are some office supplies, there are some paintings hanging on the wall or something. The other two rooms are bedrooms, and the living room is also very neatly furnished.

After Fan Wuxian put Sheng Wei on the couch, he said to her, "Now you should get some cold water and dip it in a towel to cool it, otherwise it will be easy to worsen the injury." ”

"I'll get it when my sister comes back. Sheng Wei replied, "Thank you so much Mr. Fan today, I didn't expect you to do these things." ”

"That's nothing, didn't I just rub your meal. Fan Wuxian shook his head and smiled, and then said, "But your interview work will be affected, after all, this summit has only been held for a morning, and a lot of news has not been settled, I wonder if your boss will be crazy because of this?"

"Then don't worry-" Sheng Wei smiled slyly at the mention of this matter, "Actually, being able to interview Mr. Fan this time is the biggest gain." It seems that the local media in Shanghai have never conducted such a comprehensive interview with you, and based on this, the boss will probably give me a raise. ”

Fan Wuxian smiled, "It's true, I rarely accept media interviews, and I have been flying around a lot lately, so I don't have much chance to report it." ”

Sheng Wei thought for a moment and said, "Mr. Fan, can you not accept interviews with other media this time? In this case, it will be my exclusive interview." ”

Fan Wuxi looked at Sheng Wei, and then said, "Okay, for your sake, for your miserable sake, I promise you." ”

"Really, that's great!" Sheng Wei was excited, his body moved, and he couldn't help but move to the injury again, and couldn't help frowning and snorting softly.

Fan Wuxi looked at the situation and said, "Forget it, when your sister comes back, I don't know when it will be, I'll help you get a towel to cool the compress." ”

After speaking, without waiting for Sheng Wei to say anything, Fan Wuxi went to the bathroom to get a towel, and then dipped it in cold water, and took off Sheng Wei's stockings, revealing smooth calves.

Although he has seen a lot of beautiful calves, when Fan Wuxi saw Sheng Wei's calves, he couldn't help but secretly admire, although he was a young woman, he looked more attractive, but he was not that kind of character, so he looked at Sheng Wei's injuries intently, and then gave her a cold compress.

Naturally, this inner family's true qi is exempt, after all, everyone is not very familiar with each other, and it is not easy to cultivate true qi by yourself.

"Mr. Fan is really a good man who is careful, if Wang Meng had one-third of you, we would not be at this point. Sheng Wei watched Fan Wuxian carefully compress himself, and couldn't help but sigh.

Fan Wuxi smiled slightly, "Well, in fact, I'm bored because I don't need to do anything, so I just pay too much attention to the enjoyment of life." Men are actually more tired to survive in society, not only physically, psychologically, and even emotionally, they have to bear considerable pressure. Therefore, there are not many white-collar men who can enjoy the fun of family life. ”

The two of them chatted here first, and then they talked about the current network.

"I've been focusing on a lot of networking issues lately, and I'm planning to write a feature. Sheng Wei said.

Fan Wuxian nodded appreciatively, "Well, this is a topic that has attracted a lot of attention, I don't know where you plan to talk about it?"

"I'm going to start with the right to speak on the Internet-" Sheng Wei talked about professional things, and his interest was particularly great, "I don't know Mr. Fan, have you ever heard of the fifth power?"

The Fifth Power? Fan Wuxian shook his head, thinking that he had never heard of this kind of topic, so he asked, "The fifth power, what is it?"

Sheng Wei rarely saw that Fan Wuzhi was stuck, so he explained with a smile, "Let me talk about the fourth power first, the fourth power is the expression of the status of the news media in society in Europe, America and Western society, which refers to an independent social force in addition to the legislative, executive, and judicial powers, and its social function is to supervise the law, that is, to supervise public opinion on the above three social powers, so as to ensure the transparency of the operation of these three powers and the healthy operation of the social body." As far as the origin of ideas is concerned, no matter which way it is expressed, it is related to the independent social status of the news media. Without a special status independent of the legislative, executive, and judicial powers, the implementation of the supervision law is just empty talk. And the source of legitimacy for the news media to gain this power is the idea of a free press. In this sense, the fourth right is freedom of the press. ”

As soon as Fan Wuxian heard Sheng Wei's explanation, he immediately drew inferences, "Oh, I understand, the fifth power you are talking about is actually the right to speak on the Internet." ”

"Mr. Fan is so smart. Sheng Wei nodded and smiled.

In recent years, with the rapid development of network communication technology and the expansion of the netizen group, a new form of media power that is different from the fourth power, and the fifth power has also risen and grown rapidly. The so-called fifth type of power refers to the right of public opinion of netizens relying on various online platforms, or the right of online discourse, relative to the fourth power. At present, this kind of power is gradually maturing and playing a major role in media independence and public opinion supervision, supplementing the shortcomings of the fourth type of power, thus promoting social progress.

Chapter 620: Pure Misunderstanding

There is no clear understanding of the right to speak on the Internet, or the right of public opinion of netizens, and the statement about the fifth power has just emerged from abroad.

As far as traditional news dissemination and public opinion supervision are concerned, the emergence of the fifth type of power is quietly undergoing a change in power transfer. To put it simply, the power of public opinion supervision, which was only possessed by the traditional news media in the past, is quietly shifting to online public opinion or online discourse.

If the fourth power is the child of freedom of the press, then the fifth power is the child of freedom of information, whose free nature is determined by its unique media characteristics of participation, expression and interaction with anyone, anytime and anywhere.

In short, the situation in which newspapers, magazines, and news outlets dominated by certain forces dominated the world has finally been shattered by the advent of the Internet.

"In our lives, power is still the most unknown but most important part of human beings, especially for our generation, because we are in a period of power transfer, and the world in front of us is being deconstructed and replaced by a new power structure that is completely different from the past, and in all levels of society, the old forms of power are being redistributed according to the new track." ”

Sheng Wei listened to Fan Wuxi's words very theoretically, and couldn't help but take the notebook easily, and then opened it to continue to record.

Fan Wuxian said on a whim, and at this time, seeing that Sheng Wei was more interested, it was not easy to stop there, so he continued, "What is happening in the world of journalism and communication, there is also the phenomenon that this old form of power is being redistributed according to the new track. After the advent of the Internet, the power to control discourse, which was originally reserved for news media, has also quietly shifted. It is the story of the majority seizing power from the few, helping each other for nothing. Not only did this change the world, but it also changed the way the world changed. In this sense, the Internet is a large social experiment that, like all experiments worth trying, can fail. But this is an experiment without a road map, with six billion people participating, and an opportunity to build a new international understanding, not politician to politician, great man to great, but citizen to citizen, individual to individual. ”

The social dissemination of information and the right to speak have always been the preserve of a small number of people. In the past, audience has always been an exclusive term for the role in the middle and lower reaches of the communication chain in the communication dictionary, and its agency is at most manifested in choosing or not choosing a certain media, accepting or not accepting a certain communication content or form.

But the real major change that is taking place in the field of communication is the profound change in its role as an upstream component. For the media industry, when the traditional audience participates in the upstream of the news industry value chain, rather than simply reading and listening to the public, it means that profound changes in the media ecology and the rules of the game are brewing and happening.

And this profound change in the media ecology and the rules of the game is most obvious than the rise of the fifth power.

Obviously, audience participation, decentralization and equal dialogue are some of the most important key points in this round of media reform, and news production is no longer the preserve of editors and reporters in a few media organizations, but has gradually evolved into a communication model in which news is disseminated from many people to many people.

"In China, where politics plays a leading role in social life, and where the media have always been inextricably linked to various interest groups, a free market for ideas has been difficult to achieve in the real context. Due to the innate openness and free nature of the Internet with zero barriers, zero checks, and self-media, a free market of opinions is possible. In this case, some things that were previously difficult to mention in the mainstream media are even touched

The biggest obstacle in this initial operation is not technology, but capital, that is to say, the network industry is actually just a business game for the rich.

After settling the bill, the two of them went downstairs with a smile and a smile, preparing to return to the International Convention and Exhibition Center to continue the summit in the afternoon.

When Sheng Wei went downstairs, she couldn't help but hang her handbag by the metal flowers and leaves on the cast iron handrail next to her, although the strap of the handbag was not broken, but her own body was crooked, lost her balance, and fell down the stairs top-heavy.

Fan Wuxi's reaction was extremely fast, and before Sheng Wei fell, his body had already jumped over one step ahead, grabbed Sheng Wei's body, and hugged her by the waist.

At this time, Sheng Wei had time to exclaim in discoloration, "Ahhh

But before Fan Wuxian had a chance to comfort the beauty, he heard someone shouting angrily, "That kid, what are you doing holding my wife?!"

Fan Wuxian was stunned for a moment when he heard this, and then he found that there was a young man upstairs with a red face exuding the smell of wine, pointing at himself and angrily condemning loudly.

Chapter 619: The Fifth Power

Wang Meng stood upstairs, his heart burning with anger.

Although it is said that the relationship between himself and his wife Sheng Wei has continued to deteriorate for a while, and he has made trouble to the point of preparing for divorce, but at this time, he actually witnessed his wife being held in the arms of other men in public, and a man would feel angry.

Yes, he had two more drinks at noon today, but that didn't prevent him from being able to recognize whether the young man's bosom was his wife.

In the morning, the colleagues in the unit celebrated one of the friends that he had jumped to an Internet company as the chief financial officer, so they met together for dinner to celebrate, and by the way, I wish this friend a prosperous future and be able to become a billionaire like Yang Zhiyuan, and the brothers will rely on him to make a little fortune in the future.

For this matter, Wang Meng and others came to this hotel together.

Speaking of this hotel, Wang Meng is no stranger, he and his wife Sheng Wei have not been here a lot, so the environment of this hotel is very familiar, because it is cheap here, so it is also one of the favorite places for him and his colleagues to come to consume.

But in front of me, I actually saw myself and my wife was held in the arms of another man, although it is said that the husband and wife have been separated for a long time now, but as a man, how can I endure this kind of thing?

Not to mention, in the private room upstairs, there are seven or eight of their colleagues who are drinking, if they see this, they must not despise themselves in their hearts!

"Your husband?" Fan Wuxi glanced at the young man, and then asked Sheng Wei in his arms with some uncertainty.

"Quasi-ex-husband-ah-" Sheng Wei replied with some resentment, and then she struggled to stand up from Fan Wu's sick arms, ready to go downstairs by herself, but unexpectedly, although she only twisted her ankle a little just now, she already felt the pain in her heart at this time, and couldn't help but snort softly.

"Twisted your foot?" asked Fan Wuxian.

"Hmm-" Sheng Wei nodded, then glanced at the obvious drunk Wang Meng, and said to Fan Wuxian, "I have to trouble you to send me downstairs, I'll call my sister in the car and ask her to come and pick me up." ”

Fan Wuxi nodded, then pointed to Wang Meng, who was playing drunk and crazy upstairs with the railing, and said, "Then what should he do?"

"It has nothing to do with me—" Sheng Wei replied hatefully.

Fan Wuxian no longer paid attention to Wang Meng who was shouting on the railing, and directly carried Sheng Wei downstairs, then found her car, put her down sideways on the back seat, kept the injured ankle from compression, and then turned out Sheng Wei's mobile phone to watch her call her sister.

But it's a pity that Sheng Wei dialed several times, but no one answered, and couldn't help but say a little discouraged, "This dead kid, where did he probably go crazy again!"

"Oh, if it doesn't work, I'll drive you back. Fan Wuxian hesitated for a moment and then said, "But your quasi-ex-husband, won't make any trouble, right?"

"I am now living in my own house with my sister, and I am already going through the divorce process with him. Sheng Wei's chest rose and fell a little, obviously angry by Wang Meng's behavior just now.

It's just that the divorce procedures of the two people have not yet been completed, otherwise, there would be no need to pay attention to this prospective ex-husband at all. As for now, when I met him outside, I still felt a little noisy.

Sheng Wei's home was not too far away, Fan Wuxian drove the car, and it didn't take long to find a place, then packed up his things, parked the car, and carried Sheng Wei upstairs.

"My car doesn't feel very comfortable to drive, isn't it? Mr. Fan, you usually drive top sports cars-" Sheng Wei was hugged by Fan Wuxi, thinking that this was a super young rich man, he couldn't help but feel a little strange in his heart, and his face was a little red, so he casually found a topic and asked.

"It's good, in fact, I usually only drive ordinary cars produced by my own company, and this car is occasionally driven, that is, to show off. Fan replied after a snort.

Sheng Wei's house is not small, three bedrooms and two living rooms, the area is about 120 square meters, the room is more petty bourgeoisie, a room is used as a studio, there are some office supplies, there are some paintings hanging on the wall or something. The other two rooms are bedrooms, and the living room is also very neatly furnished.

After Fan Wuxian put Sheng Wei on the couch, he said to her, "Now you should get some cold water and dip it in a towel to cool it, otherwise it will be easy to worsen the injury." ”

"I'll get it when my sister comes back. Sheng Wei replied, "Thank you so much Mr. Fan today, I didn't expect you to do these things." ”

"That's nothing, didn't I just rub your meal. Fan Wuxian shook his head and smiled, and then said, "But your interview work will be affected, after all, this summit has only been held for a morning, and a lot of news has not been settled, I wonder if your boss will be crazy because of this?"

"Then don't worry-" Sheng Wei smiled slyly at the mention of this matter, "Actually, being able to interview Mr. Fan this time is the biggest gain." It seems that the local media in Shanghai have never conducted such a comprehensive interview with you, and based on this, the boss will probably give me a raise. ”

Fan Wuxian smiled, "It's true, I rarely accept media interviews, and I have been flying around a lot lately, so I don't have much chance to report it." ”

Sheng Wei thought for a moment and said, "Mr. Fan, can you not accept interviews with other media this time? In this case, it will be my exclusive interview." ”

Fan Wuxi looked at Sheng Wei, and then said, "Okay, for your sake, for your miserable sake, I promise you." ”

"Really, that's great!" Sheng Wei was excited, his body moved, and he couldn't help but move to the injury again, and couldn't help frowning and snorting softly.

Fan Wuxi looked at the situation and said, "Forget it, when your sister comes back, I don't know when it will be, I'll help you get a towel to cool the compress." ”

After speaking, without waiting for Sheng Wei to say anything, Fan Wuxi went to the bathroom to get a towel, and then dipped it in cold water, and took off Sheng Wei's stockings, revealing smooth calves.

Although he has seen a lot of beautiful calves, when Fan Wuxi saw Sheng Wei's calves, he couldn't help but secretly admire, although he was a young woman, he looked more attractive, but he was not that kind of character, so he looked at Sheng Wei's injuries intently, and then gave her a cold compress.

Naturally, this inner family's true qi is exempt, after all, everyone is not very familiar with each other, and it is not easy to cultivate true qi by yourself.

"Mr. Fan is really a good man who is careful, if Wang Meng had one-third of you, we would not be at this point. Sheng Wei watched Fan Wuxian carefully compress himself, and couldn't help but sigh.

Fan Wuxi smiled slightly, "Well, in fact, I'm bored because I don't need to do anything, so I just pay too much attention to the enjoyment of life." Men are actually more tired to survive in society, not only physically, psychologically, and even emotionally, they have to bear considerable pressure. Therefore, there are not many white-collar men who can enjoy the fun of family life. ”

The two of them chatted here first, and then they talked about the current network.

"I've been focusing on a lot of networking issues lately, and I'm planning to write a feature. Sheng Wei said.

Fan Wuxian nodded appreciatively, "Well, this is a topic that has attracted a lot of attention, I don't know where you plan to talk about it?"

"I'm going to start with the right to speak on the Internet-" Sheng Wei talked about professional things, and his interest was particularly great, "I don't know Mr. Fan, have you ever heard of the fifth power?"

The Fifth Power? Fan Wuxian shook his head, thinking that he had never heard of this kind of topic, so he asked, "The fifth power, what is it?"

Sheng Wei rarely saw that Fan Wuzhi was stuck, so he explained with a smile, "Let me talk about the fourth power first, the fourth power is the expression of the status of the news media in society in Europe, America and Western society, which refers to an independent social force in addition to the legislative, executive, and judicial powers, and its social function is to supervise the law, that is, to supervise public opinion on the above three social powers, so as to ensure the transparency of the operation of these three powers and the healthy operation of the social body." As far as the origin of ideas is concerned, no matter which way it is expressed, it is related to the independent social status of the news media. Without a special status independent of the legislative, executive, and judicial powers, the implementation of the supervision law is just empty talk. And the source of legitimacy for the news media to gain this power is the idea of a free press. In this sense, the fourth right is freedom of the press. ”

As soon as Fan Wuxian heard Sheng Wei's explanation, he immediately drew inferences, "Oh, I understand, the fifth power you are talking about is actually the right to speak on the Internet." ”

"Mr. Fan is so smart. Sheng Wei nodded and smiled.

In recent years, with the rapid development of network communication technology and the expansion of the netizen group, a new form of media power that is different from the fourth power, and the fifth power has also risen and grown rapidly. The so-called fifth type of power refers to the right of public opinion of netizens relying on various online platforms, or the right of online discourse, relative to the fourth power. At present, this kind of power is gradually maturing and playing a major role in media independence and public opinion supervision, supplementing the shortcomings of the fourth type of power, thus promoting social progress.

Chapter 620: Pure Misunderstanding

There is no clear understanding of the right to speak on the Internet, or the right of public opinion of netizens, and the statement about the fifth power has just emerged from abroad.

As far as traditional news dissemination and public opinion supervision are concerned, the emergence of the fifth type of power is quietly undergoing a change in power transfer. To put it simply, the power of public opinion supervision, which was only possessed by the traditional news media in the past, is quietly shifting to online public opinion or online discourse.

If the fourth power is the child of freedom of the press, then the fifth power is the child of freedom of information, whose free nature is determined by its unique media characteristics of participation, expression and interaction with anyone, anytime and anywhere.

In short, the situation in which newspapers, magazines, and news outlets dominated by certain forces dominated the world has finally been shattered by the advent of the Internet.

"In our lives, power is still the most unknown but most important part of human beings, especially for our generation, because we are in a period of power transfer, and the world in front of us is being deconstructed and replaced by a new power structure that is completely different from the past, and in all levels of society, the old forms of power are being redistributed according to the new track." ”

Sheng Wei listened to Fan Wuxi's words very theoretically, and couldn't help but take the notebook easily, and then opened it to continue to record.

Fan Wuxian said on a whim, and at this time, seeing that Sheng Wei was more interested, it was not easy to stop there, so he continued, "What is happening in the world of journalism and communication, there is also the phenomenon that this old form of power is being redistributed according to the new track. After the advent of the Internet, the power to control discourse, which was originally reserved for news media, has also quietly shifted. It is the story of the majority seizing power from the few, helping each other for nothing. Not only did this change the world, but it also changed the way the world changed. In this sense, the Internet is a large social experiment that, like all experiments worth trying, can fail. But this is an experiment without a road map, with six billion people participating, and an opportunity to build a new international understanding, not politician to politician, great man to great, but citizen to citizen, individual to individual. ”

The social dissemination of information and the right to speak have always been the preserve of a small number of people. In the past, audience has always been an exclusive term for the role in the middle and lower reaches of the communication chain in the communication dictionary, and its agency is at most manifested in choosing or not choosing a certain media, accepting or not accepting a certain communication content or form.

But the real major change that is taking place in the field of communication is the profound change in its role as an upstream component. For the media industry, when the traditional audience participates in the upstream of the news industry value chain, rather than simply reading and listening to the public, it means that profound changes in the media ecology and the rules of the game are brewing and happening.

And this profound change in the media ecology and the rules of the game is most obvious than the rise of the fifth power.

Obviously, audience participation, decentralization and equal dialogue are some of the most important key points in this round of media reform, and news production is no longer the preserve of editors and reporters in a few media organizations, but has gradually evolved into a communication model in which news is disseminated from many people to many people.

"In China, where politics plays a leading role in social life, and where the media have always been inextricably linked to various interest groups, a free market for ideas has been difficult to achieve in the real context. Due to the innate openness and free nature of the Internet with zero barriers, zero checks, and self-media, a free market of opinions is possible. In this case, some things that were previously difficult to mention in the mainstream media are even touched