Chapter 324 [Explanations of Logical Errors One by One!] 】
It's a bit quiet.
Many people are digesting Zhang Ye's words and rationalizing their thoughts.
Zhang Ye said: "Everyone ponders and ponders, and I also drink saliva, hehe." ”
Zhang Ye came up with a water cup, unscrewed the lid of the thermos cup, and inside was Pu'er tea, which had just been brewed with the teacher's office when he came over, the water temperature was still very hot, and the tea entrance was not very fragrant but very mellow, he liked the taste of ripe Pu'er, drinking it not only warmed his stomach in winter, but also helped him relax and adjust his thinking. Of course, Zhang Ye has actually been very relaxed, on the stage, in the venue of thousands of people, so many reporters, so many cameras, so many students and teachers, and so many literary colleagues who came to dismantle the stage, he was not nervous at all, the expression of drinking tea easily and leisurely, as if he was on his own kang, looking like that, if he was given a bed on the stage, he would really dare to lie up.
Not many people can do this calmness alone.
Changed to other Peking University lecturers, not to mention lecturers, even those professors who have been giving lectures and conducting open classes all year round, they have to be a little nervous and urgent in the face of such a big battle.
But Zhang Ye didn't.
That's the basic essence of a professional presenter.
There are more reasons for Zhang Ye's personality - he has always been such a heartless mentality. God didn't give him a good face, nor did he give him a good figure, but there are losses and gains, this calmness and no stage fright are probably compensation for him.
Drink the water.
The course continues.
Zhang Ye held the microphone and asked, "Do you still have any questions about the structural problems and analysis of "Dream of Red Mansions" that I just explained? ”
No one spoke.
"Xiao Song?" Zhang Ye named.
Senior Sister Song got up and said, "I have to digest it first." ”
Zhang Ye nodded again, "Xiao Zhou? ”
Senior Zhou smiled bitterly: "I also have to listen to it again, so I won't speak for the time being." ”
With a smile, Zhang Ye said: "Okay, I'm going to talk about it next......"
"Wait a minute." Mr. Yang, the red expert in the first row of seats, finally spoke up, he was holding back from beginning to end, and he couldn't help but stand up now, otherwise on the scene, it was their senior experts who were stunned by a junior, so where to put their face, so even if Mr. Yang had not studied the structure of the Red Mansion, he refuted it in his own way, avoided the structure, changed his method, and sat there with a microphone and said: "Your so-called nine-by-twelve structure of the Dream of Red Mansions, I dare not agree, the structure you said, It may be just some coincidences, and it does not prove that it was not written by Cao Xueqin after eighty times, and the red academic community has already concluded that Mr. Cao Xueqin was seriously ill in his later years or for other reasons, and made some mistakes when writing, which is also the reason for the change in Jia Baoyu's personality. ”
Zhang Ye said with a smile: "How did the red academic community study it, what kind of conclusions did it come to, I don't know, I don't agree with it, my point of view is the opposite of everyone, Mr. Cao Xueqin is fine, those logical problems in the book are not the reason why he is seriously ill and then confused, the whole book of "Dream of Red Mansions" one hundred and eight times is also preserved, Cao Xueqin has largely finished writing, which can be seen from the poem of Fucha Mingyi in my lesson yesterday. ”
Teacher Yang was waiting for his words, he smiled, and asked rhetorically: "Okay, since you said so, then I want to ask, you said that only the first eighty chapters of today's "Dream of Red Mansions" are the original pen of Cao Xueqin, and Mr. Cao has no physical reasons and will make some low-level mistakes, so okay, let's talk about the first eighty times according to your train of thought, you just said it, you can explain it?" ”
Zhang Ye said frankly: "Of course. ”
Another young red scientist said, "Are you sure? ”
"Hehe, I'm pretty sure, you can ask." Zhang Ye said indifferently: "But there is a sentence I will say first, which is roughly the first eighty times, not eighty times." ”
Teacher Yang scoffed and said, "Okay, how do you explain the time of Lin Ruhai's death?" ”
The young red scientist also added fuel to the fire and said: "I also ask one, Qin Keqing's illness and death contradict the judgment of the atlas, how can you say this?" ”
Zhang Ye didn't answer, but said, "Is there anything else?" It can be said together. ”
Yan Yu, the highest status in the literary world present, also spoke, "The issue of Jia's mother's birthday, and the age of Jia Baoyu that is involved." ”
A bunch of questions are thrown over!
This is all something that the current red academic community can't explain at all!
Okay, don't you be able to explain what you say? Then you explain it to us!
At this moment, the people in the literary world who came to the scene finally attacked Zhang Ye for the first time, originally on the structural issue, they couldn't find any breakthrough to attack Zhang Ye, because Zhang Ye really surprised them, it was very perfect in this structural division, and it can even be said to be incisive, and once again it can be called a major breakthrough in red studies, so they really couldn't find an excuse to attack, but in their opinion, Zhang Ye was too arrogant, and even said that he could explain all logical problems, now, People in the literary world have also made a breakthrough!
There are about seven or eight questions, all of which are logical errors that are heavy on dà, and they are the kind of dead problems that cannot be solved after years of research, they want to see what Zhang Ye says!
Peking University students also stirred.
"It's going to be bad!"
"These Red Scientists have made a move!"
"Did Mr. Zhang explain? Impossible! ”
"It's-for-tat, that's what makes it interesting!"
"Teacher Zhang Ye is not good at it?"
Some students were very excited and waited to see the excitement. Yao Mi and some other students were very sad and looked at Zhang Ye with a worried look. Even Senior Zhou and a few other students who have been asking questions and have been looking for an opportunity to refute Zhang Ye's arguments are also worried about Zhang Ye, it is true that Senior Zhou and they are very skeptical of Zhang Ye's views, but in the final analysis, it is a matter in their own class, it is an exchange between their students and teachers, and it is a literary disagreement that occurred within Peking University, but those people in the literary world are outsiders and are here to "smash the field".
Zhang Ye looked at them, "That's all, right?" ”
Professor Ma Hengyuan sneered: "You answer these first." ”
Zhang Ye nodded, "Okay, then I'll answer it, but Vice Chairman Yan's question, I'll put it aside for the time being, and I'll answer the previous one first." ”
Yan Yu glanced at him.
Teacher Yang said, "Okay, you say we'll listen." ”
No one believes that Zhang Ye can explain!
They didn't know, Zhang Ye had already guessed that they would ask these things, after all, there were only a few logical errors in Hongxue research, and they couldn't ask anything else, so they guessed very much, "Everyone, please look at the screen, first look at the information I gave." Zhang Ye communicated with the staff of Peking University, and the other party immediately found the information he brought and put it on the projection to type.
Second Miss?
Jia Yingchun's information?
Zhang Ye glanced at everyone and said: "Everyone is familiar with Jia Yingchun, and everyone should know about her origin, but I believe that anyone who has really studied "Dream of Red Mansions" will have a discovery, that is, in several ancient books that have been handed down, the description of Jia Yingchun's life experience is completely different. ”
The second lady was pardoned by her father's ex-wife.
The second lady was born of the wife of the pardon father.
The second lady is from the ex-wife of Zheng's father.
The second lady is from the concubine of the old father.
The second lady is the daughter of the pardon father, and the political father is his own daughter.
Several red scholars frowned, first, they didn't understand why Zhang Ye gave this information, and second, this was still a field they were not familiar with, they had indeed seen these things, such as Yan Yu, such as Teacher Yang, and even Ma Hengyuan knew about it, but because it was relatively partial, Jia Yingchun was not a particularly important role in their opinion, so there is not much research on it in today's red academic circles, and because there are too many logical problems in "Dream of Red Mansions", there are more and bigger other logical errors to lead them to discover and study, Who cares to discuss the background of an indifferent character? This Zhang Ye, how can he always give it a field that they are not good at?
After Zhang Ye finished speaking, he said: "The descriptions of the five ancient books are different, we know that the sources of the ancient books of the Red Mansion are all well-founded, is this a hand-copied mistake?" Obviously not, if the first four ancient books were copied by mistake, then the fifth ancient book is so long, how can it be a mistake by copyist? This is completely impossible, and the only explanation for this complex result is that Cao Xueqin is repeatedly considering, going back and forth to revise, and has not yet thought about it, and has not yet finalized it, so there are so many completely different ancient books that have been handed down, and I believe there is no doubt about this! ”
Professor Zeng nodded slightly.
Teacher Yang and Ma Hengyuan had no expression and sat quietly.
Zhang Ye said: "Then with this foundation and cognition, everyone's problems just now will be solved, Cao Xueqin is not sick and rewritten, some of everyone's so-called logical errors are at the beginning, how can they be seriously ill at the beginning?" Confused in the brain? Therefore, this is actually Cao Xueqin's revision has not been completed, and it has not been completely finalized, Lin Ruhai's death time, Qin Keqing's illness and death, and the fifth chapter of the atlas judgment problem, these are all trivial issues, and they are just involving the ending modification of individual characters and some simple text changes! ”
Teacher Yang refuted: "Didn't you say that the one hundred and eight times of "Dream of Red Mansions" have been written? ”
"It's done, it's almost done." Zhang Ye said: "But writing does not mean that it is finalized, I believe that friends who have written books should have experience in this area, there are many people present to write books, and I happen to be an author, so I know the things in it very well, even if I don't say writing books, the students here should also be able to deeply understand, when you write essays, when you write papers, will it be finalized after writing?" ”
Peking University students shook their heads.
"No, it won't."
"yes, I have to revise it."
"Well, I'm sure I'll have to go back and look at it a few more times and retouch it."
Zhang Ye smiled, "Cao Xueqin is like this too. ”
Teacher Yang sneered: "Then if you explain it like this, the logical problem after eighty times can also be said in the same way, how can it be proved that it was written by two people?" ”
Zhang Ye shook his hand and said: "It's not like this, it's not a concept at all, the logical error after eighty times is not something that can be rounded back by simply changing a few words and a few paragraphs, it is a problem involving the conception of the whole book, and the error of the core idea, we find it hard to believe that Cao Xueqin originally planned to write about Jiafu 'The land is really clean after a white expanse', but suddenly he wanted to write about the revival of Jiafu's family Taoism; Jia's mother was originally a loving old grandmother, but the author suddenly wanted to turn her into a cold parent; Jia Baoyu was originally ' The world is incompetent first, ancient and modern are unparalleled', but the author suddenly wants him to glorify his ancestors, and it is even harder for us to believe that Cao Xueqin will suddenly change from a person who sees through the world to a character who is keen on fame and glory! ”
Zhang Ye's several sentences with accentuated intonation made those red scholars speechless!
Zhang Ye said: "When you write a paper, you will revise the details, change the text, and adjust some writing mistakes, but will you change the core idea and central idea of the paper?" No way! So it doesn't make sense to use this as a rhetoric! ”
Really explained!
And it makes sense!
Teacher Yang's face was a little heavy, and Meng Dongguo's eyes were cold, they didn't expect that this time Zhang Ye faced these mistakes that couldn't be explained at all, and he didn't say it from the content of the book, but changed the angle again, and actually explained it from the logical ideas of an author's writing!
What a mouth!
What an iron tooth and copper tooth!
Yan Yu narrowed his eyes, "Then Jia Mu's question can also be explained in this way?" I don't understand why you have to take out my questionnaire. ”
Zhang Ye said with a smile: "If I were an ordinary reader or an ordinary researcher, the age of Jia's mother could be explained in this way - if the author did not come and revised it, everyone would definitely be able to accept this explanation, and there would be no need to ask more questions, but I can't, because my current identity is a teacher, I must be rigorous academically, and the reason why I will list Jia's mother's problems separately is because Jia's mother's situation is relatively special, and it cannot be generalized with the previous explanations, if I say so, it will be irresponsible to my students!" ”
"Special?"
"What's so special?"
"It all feels the same, huh?"
"Yes, isn't Mother Jia also a question of birthday and age?"
The students of Peking University all spoke.
Zhang Ye said in detail, "If you don't mention this part, I didn't want to talk about it, but since I have said it, I will talk about it, the question of Jia's mother's birthday, is it the seventy-first 'third day of August'?" Or is it the sixty-second episode of 'After the Festival of Lights, it's the old lady and Sister Bao'? These two original texts are completely Mao Dun's, but, according to my research, according to the consistency of Baochai's birthday, I judge that the birthday of the sixty-second 'Lantern Festival' is the birthday that coincides with the life prototype. Another reason is that there are words from Jia's mother in the thirty-ninth episode: 'Old in-law, how old are you this year?' Grandma Liu hurriedly stood up and replied, "I am seventy-five years old this year. Jia Mu said, "At such an old age, he is still so strong." I'm a few years older than me. I'm going to be so old that I don't know why I can't move. It also indicates that Jia's mother was not more than seventy-four years old. And the text of the seventy-first chapter is 'The third day of the eighth month is the celebration of Jiamu's eighties'! ”
Everyone remembered it!
There are indeed these original words!
Zhang Ye summed up the conclusion and said: "So I can be sure that the third day of August is made up, eighty years old?" This age is even more leaping, integrated, and imaginary, and it is obviously not Jia's mother's real birthday age. Therefore, the text of the seventy-one chapters ...... It was changed later, which is why I just emphasized before you asked questions that I can explain the logical error of the 'generally' eighty times, because Cao Xueqin's text and manuscript of the first eighty chapters have also been lost and tampered with and miscopied, which is the case on Jia's mother's birthday. That's why there is such a heavy dà flaw, so this flaw is different from the other flaws just now, so naturally I have to take it out separately! ”
Well-founded!
There is a cause!
Zhang Ye shocked everyone again!
Those reporters don't understand at all, even if they have watched "Dream of Red Mansions", they can't react to many things Zhang Ye said for a while, they feel too profound, too fine, but they don't understand it doesn't mean that they can't observe words and colors, when they see the expressions of those writers and red scientists in the first row, reporters can understand even if they are stupid, Mr. Zhang Ye's explanation and analysis are very powerful!
"That's right!"
"It really makes sense!"
"Could it be that the author after eighty episodes is really someone else?"
Yao Mi was very happy and giggled, Uncle Zhang is too fierce!
The brothers Li Ying and Li Li next to her were also said to be heartbroken, and Teacher Zhang Ye's views really impacted their inherent cognition more and more!
Wu Zeqing smiled silently.
Chang Kaige once taught them to nod their heads constantly.
Other Peking University lecturers and foreign history experts were also thoughtful!
Faced with the logical problems that have been plagued by the red academic world, Zhang Ye did not refuse to come, and explained most of it in one go!
People in the literary world also look at me, and I look at you.
Yesterday, when they watched the lecture video on the official website of Peking University, they didn't feel anything, but when they arrived at the scene today, they realized that Zhang Ye was really eloquent, and several people in it were really shocked by Zhang Ye's views and explanations! Zhang Ye gave them a brand new idea that they had never thought of!
And what shocked these literary people the most was not Zhang Ye's analysis and explanation from various ideas, but Zhang Ye's familiarity with "Dream of Red Mansions" was even more familiar than those of them who had studied Red Mansions for more than ten years and twenty years! Is this memorizing "Dream of Red Mansions" from beginning to end? Zhang Ye's long analysis and citation of the original text just now is simply at his fingertips, but there is no manuscript, and he has not even read the screen and materials! With such a huge amount of citations and information, the details of the text are not bad for Zhang Ye to say!
The first time.
First sentences.
The original text of the specific paragraph.
That's just opening their mouths and saying that they haven't hit a single one, which is too exaggerated in their opinion! Not to mention the group of red researchers they came, there is no one in the entire red academic community who can do Zhang Ye's Cheng dù in this area! Regardless of whether Zhang Ye's opinion is right or not, this person must understand "Dream of Red Mansions", and it may be more profound and thorough than what experts like them have studied in many places!
After coming to this fact, half of these people in the literary world have even more ugly faces!
However, after being embarrassed, Mr. Yang, a red scientist, was still confident, in his opinion, Zhang Ye couldn't justify himself from the moment he said the sentence "I can explain it", because there is a logical problem in the research of red scientists that no one dares to ask, which is really unsolvable!
Clerical error?
Not finalized?
No! That question doesn't explain anything! Come on, Uncle Zhang is too fierce!
The brothers Li Ying and Li Li next to her were also said to be heartbroken, and Teacher Zhang Ye's views really impacted their inherent cognition more and more!
Wu Zeqing smiled silently.
Chang Kaige once taught them to nod their heads constantly.
Other Peking University lecturers and foreign history experts were also thoughtful!
Faced with the logical problems that have been plagued by the red academic world, Zhang Ye did not refuse to come, and explained most of it in one go!
People in the literary world also look at me, and I look at you.
Yesterday, when they watched the lecture video on the official website of Peking University, they didn't feel anything, but when they arrived at the scene today, they realized that Zhang Ye was really eloquent, and several people in it were really shocked by Zhang Ye's views and explanations! Zhang Ye gave them a brand new idea that they had never thought of!
And what shocked these literary people the most was not Zhang Ye's analysis and explanation from various ideas, but Zhang Ye's familiarity with "Dream of Red Mansions" was even more familiar than those of them who had studied Red Mansions for more than ten years and twenty years! Is this memorizing "Dream of Red Mansions" from beginning to end? Zhang Ye's long analysis and citation of the original text just now is simply at his fingertips, but there is no manuscript, and he has not even read the screen and materials! With such a huge amount of citations and information, the details of the text are not bad for Zhang Ye to say!
The first time.
First sentences.
The original text of the specific paragraph.
That's just opening their mouths and saying that they haven't hit a single one, which is too exaggerated in their opinion! Not to mention the group of red researchers they came, there is no one in the entire red academic community who can do Zhang Ye's Cheng dù in this area! Regardless of whether Zhang Ye's opinion is right or not, this person must understand "Dream of Red Mansions", and it may be more profound and thorough than what experts like them have studied in many places!
After coming to this fact, half of these people in the literary world have even more ugly faces!
However, after being embarrassed, Mr. Yang, a red scientist, was still confident, in his opinion, Zhang Ye couldn't justify himself from the moment he said the sentence "I can explain it", because there is a logical problem in the research of red scientists that no one dares to ask, which is really unsolvable!
Clerical error?
Not finalized?
No! That question doesn't explain anything!