841 Heavy twin-engine version of the J-10?

(greatly added 6/20 for Driden)

Liu Yijiu's words made everyone understand why they had to hold a meeting behind the back of the Soviets.

The intelligence system of the republic is so powerful that even the performance parameters of the most advanced fighters of the Soviet Union are so well understood.

They didn't know at all that Director Liu's intelligence did not come from the intelligence department, but in his own mind, and the current Su-27 appeared, which gave Liu Yijiu a gain that he did not expect - the fighter designed by the Soviets was so powerful, but there was no one in the Republic that could compare with it.

Knowing the gap, if you don't catch up, it will make people look down on themselves.

Before taking office, Simonlov approached Liu Yijiu to talk about some of his plans to improve the F-14 fighter.

Liu Yijiu didn't expect that Simonlov would come up with results so quickly.

"When I first learned about this project, I was thinking about how I could make this even more powerful. Our Su-27 project, from the side, looks very similar to the F14. Moreover, now that a forward-swept wing has been added, it is estimated that the Americans will not think that this is an F-14 when they see it. Simonlove said with some embarrassment.

Liu Yijiu didn't make fun of him.

People who are purely engaged in technology can't be idle at all, especially after seeing that other people are doing things wrong!

"Do you have any comments or suggestions for replica pandas? You said there was a problem at the beginning......" Liu Yijiu asked Simonlov.

If you can combine the F-14 and the Su-27, this is the most ideal. Many of the technologies of the MiG-25 simply cannot be used in this regard.

Of course, the Double Three Project has gotten a lot of technology from the MiG-25.

"Director Liu. I think that if we are just copying, there is no need to add the design of the forward-swept wing in front, the forward-swept wing is only to improve the lift during take-off, in the air, the advantage is not very obvious, after the installation. Instead, it creates complexity within the organization...... In addition, there is no need to make a variable wing for the double vertical wings. Currently, there are two options for improvement. The first is to cancel the front swept wing and keep the variable wing, and the other is to change the variable wing to a large ******. Front with swept wings......"

Simon Love introduced Liu Yijiu very seriously.

And two sketches were spread out from the side. Make a comparison.

"What's in it if it changes? Or, why change? As a chief designer, which solution do you think is more suitable for our current situation? Now that the other party has entered the working state, Liu Yijiu has also begun to regard himself as his superior.

If you want to overhaul the entire program from the beginning, you have to convince the managers.

Moreover, as long as Liu Yijiu is convinced. That's it.

In the Ninth Hospital, the project was remodeled. It's definitely much easier.

"Yes, Mr. Simonlov, wouldn't it be better if the two options were combined?" Zhu Kind's way of dealing with Simonlov is now a different view.

Especially after knowing his identity.

"On the surface, such a design scheme will improve the performance of the fighter a lot, but because these mechanisms are too complex and difficult to operate, there are more opportunities for failure. I think that's exactly what you're having right now! ”

Simon Love's words made Zhu Houdao and Liu Yijiu both nod.

Liu Yijiu just felt that this was an opportunity for them to develop stealth fighters in the future, and if they started to study it now, they would be able to make the technology more mature, and then they could directly try it out.

And the entire aircraft design team has a blind admiration for him, even if the research progress is not large, everyone thinks that it is their own level, not Liu Yijiu, the young director's guidelines.

Liu Yijiu was very embarrassed when he heard this.

He himself knows these problems, he just doesn't want to face them, he doesn't want to admit them.

As a result, the progress of work on the imitation of the F-14 was seriously delayed.

"And it's actually a pretty much lower performance. Add the front retractable triangular sweep wing, which will increase some of the weight, and the rear double vertical tail becomes variable, which also increases the weight, not to mention the complexity of the operation, just the increase in these weights will reduce the performance of the entire aircraft a lot. In particular, if the machining accuracy is not achieved, not only will it not improve flexibility, but it will cause more serious consequences......"

Simon Love, not politely, said directly.

There is nothing wrong with Liu Yijiu's improvement plan.

What is wrong is that it is completely unrealistic to carry out such a design on the basis of such basic conditions as China.

"Cancel the forward-swept wing, cancel the variable performance of the double vertical tail, and retain the variable sweep wing, this is a complete imitation, the performance of the F-14 is indeed advanced, much more advanced than the F-15 that the United States is replacing now, but the operation is complicated, it is difficult to train pilots, and at the same time, maintenance is more difficult, and the cost is also very high, and the Chinese Air Force cannot afford such maintenance costs......"

Simonlove is realistic.

Liu Yijiu and his research did not consider whether the republic could afford to be equipped and raised.

Most of the equipment in the entire Nine Courtyards is like this.

Longwei tanks, even if they are only sold to the military at an "ultra-low" price of 6 million, it is impossible for the military to equip too much, a hundred units, 600 million! You must know that in the whole of China, the annual military expenditure is less than $5 billion, and it has to be used to spend more than 4 million troops on food, drink, lazar, clothing, training, and other expenses!

At the same time, it is necessary to pay for the technical research and development of military equipment......

The Soviets were pragmatists, just as they made the MiG-25 out of stainless steel, everything was for low cost and easy to use.

The American Blackbird reconnaissance plane is because the cost of titanium alloy is too high, otherwise they would have come up with such a fighter.

"If a forward-swept wing is installed, the aerodynamic layout of the canard front wing with large ****** and close coupling is adopted, the combination of the main wing and the middle of the fuselage adopts the wing-body fusion design, and the front end of the tail nozzle is equipped with an external ventral fin to maintain the stability of the aircraft when flying at a high angle of attack......" Simon Love gushed Liu Yijiu about his improvement plan.

Liu Yijiu was stunned.

Completely confused.

Because this aircraft, if it is only a single engine, if the air intake is changed to a belly air intake, this thing is the first third-generation fighter of the Republic, and it is also the fighter that has excited countless Chinese people - Jian-10!

Or is Simonlov's design a heavy twin-engine version of the J-10?

Nima, if it goes on like this, is a panda still a panda?

Called J-10?

If Song Lao knew, would he hack him?

"Director Liu, Director Liu......" Seeing Liu Yijiu's wandering world, Simon Love stopped his plan introduction. On the side, Zhu Houdao shouted softly, and it took several times for Liu Yijiu to come back to his senses.

Liu Yijiu was a little embarrassed, and he was still distracted when he listened to this.

"Simon Love, what if I told you that there was an order for the F-14?" There is a fart order, and Liu Yijiu wants to make the F-14 more powerful.

Everyone who likes pandas has great regret for the fate of pandas.

Moreover, in order not to be accused by the United States of China stealing their technology, Liu Yijiu did not want to directly copy the F-14.

After so many years, he really didn't want this project to be scrapped.

"We can continue to test flights and improve ...... at the same time," Simonov said without hesitation, "and even if there is an order, it is impossible for the Iranians to buy much more." It is too difficult to repair, and now in the Iran-Iraq war, the number of F-14s that the Iranians can take off is getting smaller and smaller. It's because the repair guarantee is too complicated. If the variable sweep wing is changed to a large ******, this will not only reduce weight and improve performance, but also reduce technical difficulty......"

Simon Love's tone was not tough, just telling Liu Yijiu that there were benefits to doing so.

Why doesn't Liu Yijiu know?

Even the good ways are clear.

Zhu Houdao really wanted to say to Liu Yijiu, why don't we get another project? It is estimated that Liu Yijiu will give him a direct slap, but he didn't say anything in the end.

"Then the project is scrapped?"

"No, it won't. While conducting test flights, while carrying out modifications, variable swept wings, variable tail vertical wings, these technologies can be studied, and when the technology matures, the cost is reduced, and it can be applied to our fighters...... "Simonlov said very sincerely.

Moreover, he has already drawn a simple diagram on the diagram.

"How much time can I get to fix these problems? What I want to know is, if this improvement is made, how far behind the performance of this fighter compared to the Su-27? Liu Yijiu pondered for a long time, took a deep breath, and asked Simonlov.

This question is not just to ask Simonlov to make an assessment of his own performance, Liu Yijiu is to test whether Simonlov is credible, whether it is really to help China design the most advanced fighter.

Zhu Houdao looked at Liu Yijiu in some surprise, he never thought that Liu Yijiu didn't trust Simon Love.

But was it his luck or misfortune to have Simon Love as the chief designer of the work on copying and improving the F-14 when he did not trust him?

Moreover, Zhu Houdao dared to guarantee that Simon Love would not think that Liu Yijiu's intelligence work was so good.

Simon Love looked at Liu Yijiu, a little embarrassed, and was silent for a long time, Liu Yijiu didn't speak at all, and Zhu Houdao didn't dare to breathe.

"I don't know the final improved performance of the Su-27, and if you want to make a comparison, it can only be theoretical. When I first designed it, a lot of improvements weren't done, and a lot of performance testing wasn't done......," Simon Love said with a wry smile.

(To be continued.) )