Lu Zhengcao said: "Actually, what surprised me the most was the output value of 4 trillion yuan that he calculated. 4 trillion yuan? It's an astronomical number, guys, can you believe it? ”

Wang Lao said: "Xiao Zhang said very clearly, he is describing the situation 30 years later. Who can say what the country will be able to develop like in 30 years? However, since Xiao Zhang has his own research and analysis team, what he said will definitely not be groundless and imaginary. Besides, since the cultural industry of Western countries, especially the United States, has already far exceeded this number, why can't our country? Therefore, I still choose to trust Xiao Zhang and trust their analysis results. ”

Vice Premier Wan said: "There is no place for our country in the ranking of the world's five major cultural powers, but a small South Korea is on the list, and this result makes our country with 5,000 years of civilization embarrassed." Xiao Zhang is right, culture is not only a tool of a country's ideology, but should also become a pillar industry of a country, and we used to emphasize too much on culture to serve politics, and ignore the role of culture in the country's economic construction, and now it is time to change this concept. ”

President Li Baohua said: "I agree with Wan Lao's opinion that in carrying out reform and opening up, we must not only break the old economic system and complete the transformation from a planned economy to a market economy, but more importantly, we must completely change our original outdated ideas and concepts to meet the requirements of the new situation. In particular, it is necessary to focus on strengthening the important position and role of culture in the cause of building socialism, because culture is an important cornerstone of a country and a nation. In today's world where science and technology are developing rapidly, the strength of a country should be judged not only by the amount of material wealth and the speed of social development, but also by the level of development of cultural undertakings and the building of spiritual civilization. Therefore, the building of socialist culture can only be strengthened, not weakened. ”

Zou Jiadong continued: "President Li, you still emphasize the political nature of culture, and ignore the important role of the cultural industry in economic construction. Culture is not only an important cornerstone of a country and a nation, but also an important symbol of a country's comprehensive national strength. The central leader said: In the comprehensive national strength, Chinese not only deeply penetrates into economic strength, scientific and technological strength, and national defense strength, but also culture itself can form an industry and directly participate in international competition, which is similar to what Xiao Zhang said that culture is not only a tool of state ideology, but also an important pillar industry of national economic construction. Therefore, I agree with your conclusion that the building of socialist culture can only be strengthened, not weakened. ”

Ding Lao said: "Xiao Zhang has raised a very practical problem for us, that is, the problem of recognizing cultural attributes. In the past, I only emphasized the political nature of culture, that is, to serve the country's politics and the people, and rarely thought about developing culture as an industry, let alone thinking that culture could become a pillar industry of the national economy. It is true that our current cultural policy needs to be seriously reviewed, and the cultural management departments must streamline administration and delegate powers, and the cultural units must have extensive autonomy in their own management, and they must give full play to the enthusiasm of the vast number of personnel in the cultural system to stimulate their subjective initiative to the greatest extent. Only in this way can we completely change the many problems that currently exist on the cultural front, let the cultural industry flourish, and better serve the masses of the people and economic construction. ”

"Ding Lao, reform and opening up, in full swing, the situation is pressing, time is not waiting, Xiao Zhang's topic, not only for economic construction, for the successful implementation of the reform and opening up policy is even more crucial, I suggest that the relevant meetings should be held as soon as possible, as soon as possible to introduce relevant policies, as soon as possible to play a huge role in the national economic construction of the socialist cultural industry." Wang Lao suggested.

Ding Lao said: "I agree with your suggestion, after the meeting, I will study this issue in depth with the relevant comrades of the Central Committee and the Politburo." ”

After listening to Zhang Zheng's words, Wang Yumei said: "Brother Zhang, from your introduction, let me see the great prospects for the development of the cultural industry, but it is undeniable that at least now in our country can hold this point of view, there should be very few people, including some senior leaders and economists, so if you want to really develop cultural undertakings as an industry, I think there is still a long way to go." ”

Zhang Zheng said: "Sister Wang is right, the cultural industry is an emerging industry developed in the context of a globalized consumer society, and is recognized as the 'sunrise industry' or 'gold industry' in the era of global economic integration in the 21st century, and is even called 'the last profiteering cake of the 21st century' by Japanese economists."

Although the cultural industry in developed countries in Europe and the United States has entered a period of rapid development, and has created a brilliant development in economic development, but due to various reasons, whether it is relevant theoretical research or industrial practice, there is still a serious lag phenomenon, the reason, I think as you said, some of our senior leaders and economists, have not yet realized the important impact and role of the cultural and creative industry on economic development, which is also the place I am most worried about. ”

After listening to Zhang Zheng's words, Li Lao said: "Ding Lao, Xiao Zhang has given us advice, saying that we have not realized the important impact and role of cultural and creative industries on economic development, do you agree with his statement?" ”

Ding Lao said: "Of course I agree with Xiao Zhang's statement, he is right, we really have not realized the important impact and role of the cultural and creative industry on economic development. The cultural industry of the western developed countries has played or is playing a huge role in the national economy, becoming the pillar industry of the national economy, and contributing so much GDP to the country, on the other hand, our cultural industry, in addition to publicizing the principles and policies of the party and the state, and serving the people, not only does not make any contribution to the country's GDP, but needs a large amount of state appropriation every year to maintain the basic operation, and this phenomenon of dragging the country back can never continue. ”

Vice Premier Yu Qiuli said: "In fact, in my opinion, Xiao Zhang did not give us advice, but around the theme of the cultural industry, gave us a vivid and practical cultural and economic lesson, and pointed out a way to promote the development of the cultural industry, so we should all thank him well." ”