No one answered and spoke, and the conference room fell into a cold field for a while, as if they were all waiting, looking at each other, and the most eyes were at Qi Tianxiang, but Qi Tianxiang didn't mean to say anything at all, and looked back at everyone with a smile.

Under Qi Tianxiang's gaze, Liu Xiaoping glanced around at the people in the conference room, and found that among the vice governors present, only himself and Xu Fang did not clearly express their attitude, so he looked at Xu Fang with a little seriousness and said: "Only me and Lao Xu have not expressed their position, Lao Xu is from other provinces, I am from Beijing, and they have not been in Hehai Province for a long time. ”

Seeing Xu Fang grinning, Liu Xiaoping's gaze turned to Qi Tianxiang, and he smiled slightly and continued: "Without investigation, there is no right to speak, if you want to say that I am not qualified to make irresponsible remarks about institutional reform, I don't understand the basic situation, what kind of insight do you talk about?" But as a person in the organization, I would like to share my own thoughts. ”

After a lot of transition similar to nonsense, Liu Xiaoping himself felt insincere, so he changed his sitting posture and said slowly: "I am from the National Development and Reform Commission, and I don't know much about the situation at the grassroots level, but as far as I know in the agency for many years, the relationship between the number of personnel and the efficiency of the agency is not very large, but the amount of power and property rights, that is, the problem of workload and personnel setting." Some departments have a lot of people, but there is no time to spare every day, and some departments only have one or two people, and they are still crowded, but such departments cannot be without. Under such uneven bitterness, the most important thing to solve is the design of personnel and departments, which requires time and careful investigation and research, and the introduction of a major initiative still needs to be cautious. ”

After Liu Xiaoping finished saying what he meant around the bend, he stopped talking, but looked at Qi Tianxiang, as if waiting for his response.

Qi Tianxiang looked at Liu Xiaoping and continued to smile, but the surprise in his heart was clear, Liu Xiaoping would go against him, which he did not expect. According to his contact and understanding with Liu Xiaoping, as well as the design for his sake, even if Liu Xiaoping does not fully agree with his views, he should remain neutral and moderate, and there is no reason to oppose it, let alone go around in circles to explain his intentions. As a result, he thought about Liu Xiaoping's true intentions, so he didn't answer Liu Xiaoping's words, but looked at Xu Fang and wanted to hear what he had to say.

Xu Fang heard that Liu Xiaoping had introduced him into the situation, and saw Qi Tianxiang looking at him meaningfully, knowing that he should clarify his views, so he said calmly and slowly: "What Governor Liu said just now is very right, I have not been in Hohai Province for a long time, although I have done some investigation and research work during this period, but I still have more work at the grassroots level, and I don't know much about the situation of the organs, so I don't have much right to speak. ”

After a few modest confessions, Xu Fang continued in a strong hometown dialect: "But as many years of experience in rural work, I still have some ideas about the efficiency of agricultural management and scientific and technological service institutions, and it should be said that agricultural service organizations are closely related to the countryside and farmers, and their feelings for agriculture and the countryside should be deep, but in fact, on the contrary, not only did they not serve the farmers wholeheartedly, but they became officials. ”

"This is the common practice of administrative organs, as well as water protection, plant protection, agricultural machinery, seeds and other public institutions, the sense of serving the people is weak, and the behavior is indifferent. Xu Fangwen crepe said, perhaps knowing that his dialect was difficult to understand, so he deliberately slowed down his speech speed and said as clearly as possible, "This is the case with the provincial and municipal agricultural departments, and the township level is even more serious, the institutions are bloated, there are many personnel, and there are not many of the seven stations and eight institutes that really play a role, but the administrative expenses have not been saved at all, but they have become inefficient and overcrowded nursing homes and shelters, and even become wealth-collectors who increase the burden on farmers." ”

When it comes to rural and agricultural work, Xu Fang seems to have endless words, but thinking about the theme of today's meeting, he had to regretfully end the emotion he wanted to say, but he still clearly expressed his thoughts and continued: "I raise my hands in favor of the institutional reform plan proposed by Governor Qi and the specific practice of divesting public institutions. It is necessary to work hard to change the service consciousness and service concept of the agriculture-related departments, so that they can truly adapt to the market demand, really do things for the people, and obtain the necessary remuneration, which is the normal supply and demand relationship that should exist. ”

As soon as Xu Fang's words fell, Luo Jian took over and said: "Comrade Xu Fang's attitude is very clear, and the idea is feasible, but have you ever thought about how many personnel of public institutions will be involved in the seven stations and eight from the province to the city and then to the grassroots townships. I don't have a specific number, and probably Comrade Xu Fang doesn't have a clear concept, but according to my estimate, there are still tens of thousands of people, and the risks and turbulence of such a large group are indeed unimaginable when they are suddenly pushed to the market, and the problems and contradictions that may arise are also difficult to predict. ”

Seeing that Xu Fang was speechless at the moment of Luo Jian's sharp rhetoric, Zhang Jun simply interjected: "Lao Luo's statement has some confused concepts, tens of thousands of people are not pushed to the market in one step, we are not engaged in the reform of state-owned enterprises, we are not overnight or earth-shaking changes, there is still a buffer process, and the personnel of public institutions are not transferred to the market as a whole this time. As far as I know, many agriculture-related institutions are in fact already carrying out market-oriented operations, such as seeds, agricultural machinery, fertilizer and other departments, which have been operating under a dual-track system for a long time, but they still occupy financial administrative funds. ”

As Zhang Jun spoke, he glanced at Xiao Shan, who was sitting opposite, exchanged glances with Lei Qiushi, who was sitting next to him, and continued in a calm tone: "Now it is not a question of whether to change it, but a question of how to change it and to what extent, Comrade Tianxiang raised a very serious topic, which is not only worth our best efforts to do, but also to do a good job." I have always believed that reform is a reform that benefits the whole people, and as long as it is actively and steadily promoted, the necessary pains and sacrifices are also acceptable; both our governments at all levels, as well as our cadres and workers, must have this kind of psychological expectation, and we must also have the necessary ideological preparations, and we cannot do two things for cadres and the masses, and one standard for two results, which is abnormal. ”

"Labor pains are unavoidable, but such sacrifices should be as few as possible, at least they should not involve social stability and prosperity, and should not cause too many contradictions and problems." Zhang Wanfu took Zhang Jun's words, thought about it and said: "Institutional reform should be carried out, and it should be started as soon as possible, but the formulation of plans should also take into account the acceptance of all parties, and there can be sacrifices. ”

"I believe that cadres and workers have the consciousness of sacrifice, but our reform is not achieved at the cost of sacrifice, and the labor pain is even more unacceptable." Qi Tianxiang patiently waited for Zhang Wanfu to finish speaking, and said while thinking: "We don't look for reasons and don't leave sequelae, but this does not mean that we can irresponsibly decide the fate of countless people, and institutional reform and downsizing personnel involve the interests of many people, which requires us to think enough about the difficulties, do our work carefully, and be worthy of the trust of the cadres and the masses, and also worthy of the responsibilities we shoulder." ”

Hearing everyone's gossip and-for-tat opinions, Qi Tianxiang has realized that the possibility of the plan passing the meeting is very small, so he is unwilling to work too hard, and with a good balance, he can be basically satisfied.

Although from Qi Tianxiang's heart, the plan has not passed, and he is slightly regretful, but compared with the resistance in the implementation process, the temporary cold field is not a bad thing, and it takes a process to unify ideas, and it is necessary to make specific efforts by yourself.

In fact, it will be very easy to make a plan, Qi Tianxiang has an important killer weapon that has not been used, as long as he says that this matter has been agreed by Lin Dongsheng in advance, everyone's dissenting opinions will disappear, but Qi Tianxiang is unwilling to do this, one is that he is unwilling to oppress people with power, and more importantly, he still wants to hear the true thoughts of the vice governors, this is his purpose.

"I came up with this plan because I wanted to hear everyone's opinions, and speaking freely is the best result, although everyone's opinions are different, but the idea of change is the same for the work efficiency and current situation of the agency, and this is a good foundation." Qi Tianxiang looked around at everyone calmly, and said in a soft tone: "I will seriously consider everyone's opinions today, and I will also combine research and argumentation in the next paragraph." At the same time, I also hope that every comrade present here will proceed from the overall situation of the province's economic work, conscientiously combine the actual situation in the field in charge, do a good job in research and research, and then we will brainstorm and come up with a complete and effective plan. ”

As he spoke, Qi Tianxiang glanced at the participants with a smile, and said slowly in a soliciting tone: "Let's see if you still have any questions to say, if not, let's go here for today's meeting first!" Later, the office will send you the minutes of the meeting, and if you have any questions, we will communicate separately. ”

Qi Tianxiang's speech was equivalent to announcing the end of the meeting, and everyone present took a deep breath, the expressions on their faces became relaxed, and they got up or left the conference room alone, drawing a complete end to the governor's office meeting.

Qi Tianxiang didn't slowly stand up until everyone in the meeting left the conference room, and left with Zhou Tong, who had been waiting, looking at Zhou Tong's slightly regretful expression, Qi Tianxiang's face was always smiling gently, and he also had a clearer idea of what to focus on next.