Wang Shunyi and the others did not waste any more time on this, and while eating instant noodles, they discussed all kinds of things about what to expect after arriving at the Shanghai Aircraft Factory tomorrow. It doesn't matter how the 701 Institute eventually solves this problem.

In fact, the attitude of the Ministry of Aviation Industry and the Civil Aviation Administration is not wrong. Although some of them hope to take this opportunity to go abroad, once they undertake the project of Yun Shi, this will be a very serious test for us. Not only financial pressure, but also various technical pressures. Not to mention anything else, just a large press of more than 50,000 tons, which is a hurdle that we can't get around, technical documents, there are ...... here" In fact, on the large aircraft project, Wang Shunyi and other management committees have the same opinions as the Civil Aviation Administration and the Ministry of Aviation Industry.

They are engaged in technology, and they know how difficult it is for the current domestic industrial base to continue to let the Yun-10 fly to the level of commercial flight.

However, how much the aviation industry has played a role in promoting the industrial development level of the whole country, without Liu Yijiu's constant analysis of them, they all know.

The aircraft industry is the integration of the highest level of industry in a country.

China has no experience in large aircraft, and even in aircraft design.

After all, from the beginning of the technology inherited from the Soviet Union, the Soviets helped China build factories and engage in production, without teaching the Chinese how to design. This is the fundamental reason for the limited level of industrial development of the whole China for so many years!

Without the guidance of the Soviets, the space industry, which Chinese scientists themselves groped from scratch, as well as the atomic energy industry. Not only is the development fast, but also the results are not much worse than the world. Just because this is from the beginning of the field of design, the Chinese have been doing it independently.

Again, from the sixties. For a long time in the 21st century, these two areas were the only ones that could be mastered in the Republic.

The aviation industry, the Soviets helped China to build production plants, which made it possible to build fighters, bombers at a time when they could not be designed at the very beginning, so that they could not be designed. The status of personnel in the production field is much higher than that in the field of design and technology, and many high-level personnel are promoted from the production and manufacturing field, and the design is in a long period of time. It's all like chicken ribs.

It has caused a bad habit of emphasizing production and ignoring technology in China.

Liu Yijiu knows the Yun-10 better than others, because even after the Republic of China restarted the large-scale aircraft project 20 years after the Yun-10 was launched, more than 30 years after the Yun-10 was dismounted. The manufacture of large domestic aircraft is still fraught with difficulties.

There is something. It requires a strong industrial base to support it, but also requires strong design capabilities.

In the design process of the Yun-10 project, extensive reference was made to the Boeing 707, Trident and other models introduced in China, from the beginning of the Soviet aviation design standards, to the later reference to the British aircraft design specifications, and finally the application of the American design specifications, only in the design standards, it integrated the different standard systems of the Soviet Union, Britain and the United States. There are no problems with the design though. However, a large number of problems have been encountered in terms of materials, manufacturing processes, and assembly.

Design capabilities must be compromised to manufacturing capabilities.

The design team of Yunshi knows this. The Ninth Court is also clear about this item from the information and technical documents it has learned.

Even if the Ninth Academy is fully involved, there are still many problems that will be very difficult to solve!

"We know that. However, what Xiao Liu said is indeed right, this is not only a question of whether our own big planes fly in the sky, even if as the Civil Aviation Administration said, they will not purchase Yun Shi, and the Yun Shi project must be carried out! This is too much for the industrial system of the whole country. The purpose of the existence of our Ninth Academy is not to make money, but to develop the entire country's industrial system. "Qin Yuan, as the head of the technical project in charge of missile design in the Ninth Academy, actually knows more about this.

In many places, missiles are similar to some of the relevant requirements of the aviation industry.

"The aviation industry is the integration of relevant technologies in the industrial field of a country, and in turn, we can also see the whole field as the promotion of all industrial fields, which is much stronger than our other projects. So, even knowing that billions of dollars may be invested in it, there will be no results, but we must ensure that the whole country has such design capabilities, has such production capacity. Not to mention anything else, as long as we accept, the 50,000-ton press, this is the problem that must be solved, as well as the relevant material technology, mechanical production process, and even the assembly process of large parts, etc., as long as it is perfect, the entire domestic industry will be upgraded...... "Liu Yijiu emphasized this point again.

The country is now developing its economy, and basically no one is optimistic about the prospects of Yun Shi, and one of the most important reasons is that although Yun Shi is on the line, although it is urgent, it is because of the "supreme instructions".

Except for strategic nuclear submarines, nuclear weapons, intercontinental missiles, and other "supreme directive" projects that can have a major deterrent capability in the field of national defense, when the state has no money but has to invest a lot of money in infrastructure and economic construction, the appropriation of funds has basically stopped.

In fact, when the big plane was launched again, someone missed the inside story of Yun Shi's dismounting, which caused a lot of scolding in China.

These are only one-sided.

Only by having experienced this era and understanding the difficulties of the country in this era will it be clear that the emergence of anything is not simple and simple. As long as there is foresight, no one wants to give up on the development of such an industrial field.

In many cases, when Liu Yijiu was forced to have no choice, didn't he say that he would give up or postpone the progress of the 10th project?

"Alright, don't talk about those questions. What we are facing now is how to solve these difficulties! Wang Shunyi didn't want to listen to Liu Yijiu, who emphasized in front of them the great truths that he didn't know how many times. If it weren't for Liu Yijiu's constant emphasis, they wouldn't have dealt with these issues at all. "There is another question, even if we are willing to pay, the Shanghai Municipal Government, the Ministry of Aviation Industry, and the Civil Aviation Administration will not be able to give us this project easily!"

"Don't worry about this, it's really not good, just find the military bigwigs above to solve it. They're going to be here these days anyway. There is basically not much money left for the Yun-10, and whether the remaining three planes will continue to be assembled after the completion of production ......" Liu Yijiu is not worried that the people in charge of the leading departments of the large aircraft factory will obstruct them.

At present, Yun 10 is facing 30 million funds, once the assembly of the three aircraft is completed, what should be done with the follow-up change?

"Assemble? How do you assemble it now? The JT-3D engines used in the four Boeing 707s imported from the United States were originally only used as a backup, and now they are installed on the No. 2 aircraft, and there is no problem with the first flight, but if we continue to assemble at present, what should we do next? Continue to import from the United States? "The problem is in front of you.

Yun Shi can fly, just because it uses the engine of Boeing 707!

At the beginning, the country was considering wearing a domestic engine - turbofan eight!

Turbofan eight, relatively speaking, has been difficult until now, and after the introduction of bass civil aircraft engines from the United Kingdom, the imitation engineering project was launched, but there is still no progress. The entire team of turbofan six was given a nest by Liu Yijiu, and they still continue to design the turbofan ten with Director Liu's golden finger to provide technical support in the 611 Institute!

The design work of turbofan 10 has just been completed, and only two samples have been produced at present, and the test test work is carried out in the test site in the northwest of the Republic.

"Why import from the United States? Just let them wait for the engine while they continue to work on the design work! Liu Yijiu shook his head.

The introduction of engines from the United States, which for him was the least of his consideration.

It's better to have no introduction!

Just like the Iranian Air Force, all weapons and equipment are imported, and when they are used, they dare not let go of them, for fear that there will be problems that will make the fighter unable to take off again, and there will be no spare parts for maintenance at that time.

In particular, the century-long competition between the United States and China in the future has made Liu Yijiu clearly aware that the Americans' orders have too great political risks.

Americans' presidents change every four years, and even if they are the longest, they are only two consecutive terms.

Different governments have different ideas, and now Reagan's grandson will not think too much about it in order to bring down the Soviet Union, they are desperately trying to win over China, support China, and hope that China's rapid rise will increase the competition with the Soviet Union, all of which has not given some hope to many short-sighted officials in China.

All the cooperation negotiations have not progressed much, and when this grandson has achieved his goal, cooperation with China, then there will be problems.

In the past, the most famous J-82 avionics and radar fire control system technical cooperation in the peace model project was the most typical. The Chinese gave money, and in the end, the Americans got two prototypes out, and the radar was not given to China. At a time when there was a lot of financial pressure in China, they were willing to continue to cooperate, but they had to add money Chinese......

No one knows whether the cooperation will be completed after adding money.

So, in the end, the Chinese side did not continue to increase the two to three hundred million dollars that Grumman proposed, and lost more than six hundred million dollars (there was a mistake earlier, and the total value of 55 radar and fire control systems was 550 million dollars, not 55 million).

In fact, this outcome was doomed from 1989, when the United States unilaterally terminated the peace paradigm.

That year, the USSR was already completely incorrigible! (To be continued.) )