Chapter 028: Shaw Theory

Chapter 028 Shaw Theory

Seeing Xiao Chen's face not good after putting down the phone, Shen Yuerong next to him asked in a low voice: "Is there bad news?" ”

Xiao Chen let out a sigh and shook his head slightly: "It's not bad news, but it's expected." ”

Shen Yuerong said: "It's still with ...... Something to do with the trend, right? ”

Xiao Chen laughed and said, "What you want to say is 'or is it related to **", right?" To put it bluntly, I'm not a person who shy away from medical treatment, and I don't like to cover my ears and steal the bell. ”

Shen Yuerong stuck out her tongue, although she didn't admit it, but since she didn't deny it, she naturally acquiesced.

Xiao Chen smiled: "You are studying business administration, you should know the analysis of the mainstream economists in the nineties of the twentieth century, right?" ”

"Huh?" Shen Yuerong felt that Xiao Chen's thinking was a little jumpy, and her question was a little abrupt.

Xiao Chen smiled and said lightly: "In the nineties of the twentieth century, the analysis of the mainstream economists in China was relatively early enough to know that Fan Gang had a gray market theory in 1988, and the article responded well. I am now studying for a Ph.D. in economics, and my Ph.D. teacher, Professor Zhang, is very rigorous in his studies, and he wrote the article "The Economics of ** and Bribery". He spoke of two possibilities, one possibility of buying power in the market at once, but not into multiple times. Another sociologist, Mr. Zheng, introduced six foreign anti-** measures, one-time purge, permanent anti-** institutions, non-politicized means such as military officers and moral construction, building bureaucratic teams, and narrowing the opportunities for ** behavior, etc., and believed that the first three were basically ineffective, that is, the one-time purge campaign and permanent anti-** institutions had no effect, and the sixth type of decentralization of power, handing over more things to the invisible hand, saying that small politics and big society could be reduced. My teacher didn't completely agree with this view, after the implementation of the market economy** and bribery will not breed and spread? Reform is the continuous decentralization of power, but why is ** and bribery all the rage? My teacher said that the existence of public power is only the objective basis for ** and bribery, but having an objective basis does not necessarily have a particularly large **. What he means is that it is true that there can not be too much public power, that is, what can be put into the society is put into the society, which we all have a consensus on, and the more public power there is, the greater the foundation, but the large foundation does not mean that it will happen so big. For example, under the planned economy, it is small, because the whole society is controlled by power and has no conditions to do it. In a market economy, there are many conditions. So my teacher made a distinction, the emergence of a broad base and its serious breeding and spread of the reality is completely different after all, the reform provides the mechanism conditions for realization, decision-making power is highly centralized, to the local decentralization, the more decentralized the power, the more people there are. ”

Shen Yuerong understood it, but she didn't understand what Xiao Chen meant when she suddenly said this, so she looked at him curiously.

Xiao Chen continued to explain: "Economists assume that ** and bribery are rational behaviors, depending on the comparison of costs and benefits, a few days ago I held a meeting in the committee, and several experts and comrades discussed one thing with me, saying that now Huaxia's ** has exceeded the bottom line, which means that Huaxia ** is not a rational behavior." Economists assume that ** is a rational behavior, which is limited by the cost-benefit ratio. **When it is not very powerful, it can be restricted by economic and legal means, and if it becomes irrational**, for example, a person who embezzles tens of millions is irrational. You are still called rational corruption within 10 million, beyond this bottom line, why do you want so much money? He didn't know what he was doing. Rational corruption can't be so corrupt law, because if you are corrupt too much, even if the state doesn't arrest you, many poor people will think all day long, your family in Nòng doesn't dare to go out, and finally kidnap your son, so what's safe? ”

Shen Yuerong's eyes widened: "There is still such a thing as 'rationality' in economics?" I'm studying business administration, which is different from economics, and I really don't know about that...... You are an expert in this area, and I should be Bai Juyi's old woman listening to poetry. ”

"You 'old woman' is a little high-end." Xiao Chen laughed: "Actually, we now have a consensus, that is, there must be a strong anti-** to curb this momentum." Now there are many arguments that hinder us from completely opposing **, that is, it is useless to oppose **, and after catching this batch, the new batch is even more **. But this is not good, it must be often reversed, can some people still monopolize it for a long time? A rational person should be a director with real power, and run quickly for three years. For example, the National System Reform Commission approved listed companies in the 90s, and they have real power. In a political department, you have to know that several departments are lacking, and you, the director of the department, can only work for three years, this is an unspoken rule, no one stipulates that you can only work for three years, but when you reach three years, you have to know that it is almost the same, you have to leave, and give the féi shortage to others. If you work until the fourth year, other people should be dissatisfied with you, and they will join forces to sue you, I think this is a bit rational, pay attention to a humility, and we are all talking about mutual humility. Otherwise, it won't be even. 100 directors are corrupt for you alone, what if there are 99 people left? It's sure to put it together and get you caught. You're almost all right, and that's called equal opportunity. Now that there is no such thing, a small group of people want to ** to the end, of course this is not good, can it still be monopolized? This is called irrationality. There are certain rules and balances in society, and it is impossible to get all of them in a small handful. Even if the common people can't do it, there is still a relationship between colleagues and various power departments, and a small group of people cannot be allowed to get it all. Now the problem is here, it's too unusual, beyond the bottom line. ”

Shen Yuerong was stunned when she heard this "theory", and said in surprise: "This ...... Well, I'll admit, I was shocked. She took a deep breath: "I'm ready, what other shocking theories do you have, and tell me about it, I have a long insight?" ”

Xiao Chen laughed and said disapprerovingly: "Okay, I'll tell you about it, it's okay." Ten years ago it was naïve to say that bribery and bribery were rational and depended on the comparison of costs and benefits, and if he was rational, it would automatically have limitations. That is to say, as long as any anti-** measures are introduced, they will achieve certain results. But now it's worse, and extraordinary measures are needed, at least to curb the irrational. ”

Xiao Chen smiled, he didn't know what to laugh at, and then continued: "Teacher Zhang said, 'The foundation of ** is public power, but the spread of ** depends on many conditions, such as whether it is beneficial to have a sound legal system? The moral order is effectively constrained, and the ideology is favorable and successful, so that people believe that the existing social system and the corresponding set of institutions are just and effective, and consciously maintain and abide by them. Bribery will be punished more severely, so that it will be discouraged and less likely to occur. The lack of effectiveness of anti-corruption, for example, is not an example, the cost is very small, and the proliferation of bribery is inevitable, so in the final analysis, it depends on the cost-benefit ratio. That's what standard economists say, so in this case, liberal economists don't advocate one-off purges and the establishment of permanent anti-** institutions and the like, which he means is that anti-** is also public decision-making, and it can happen, but it is an exaggeration to say that these methods are basically ineffective, and they are always effective. The latter paragraph is what is in the bones of liberalism, saying that reform moves from planning to market, and it is necessary to change part of public decision-making into decision-making and public power into sī people's rights, so the reform process is a process of transfer and redistribution of power and interests - this is what they themselves said more thoroughly. In the history of mankind, there are very few things that voluntarily cede rights, and even if they are voluntarily surrendered, they are forced to do so - not to mention Washington, the president of the United States at that time and the current president of the United States are two different things, and the office has to pay for it himself, whoever wants to do it, and the real power is with the secretary of finance. In fact, there are usually only two ways to transfer and redistribute rights, one is to snatch and the other is to buy. Since those who hold and use public power are not willing to give up their right to control livestock easily, and reform cannot be forcibly taken from them, they can only buy them by way of transaction, so there is an exchange of rights and money, and in the general situation, there are both exchanges that are permitted and disallowed by laws and policies, and there are exchanges that are not covered by laws and policies, and it is difficult to distinguish the boundaries. Not only that, in real life, illegal transactions are often carried out with legal signboards, legal exchanges are often carried out with the help of illegal means, and some alternative informal transfers in the exchange often have a process from illegal to legal, and the situation is even more complicated, that is, because the system is a public good, there is no way to be provided by the government or by individuals, and the supply will be insufficient due to the existence of externalities, especially to turn some informal institutional arrangements into formal institutional arrangements. The cost of implementation by individuals is very high and it must be recognized by the government, and at this time, the cost of supply can be greatly reduced through bribery, so it is inevitable to pay for bribery. Many of the workarounds and non-institutional arrangements in the reform are often existing and bribery practices involved in becoming formal arrangements, and in this regard, the féi is actually the money to buy the way to the market economy, which constitutes the cost of the reform.

This is the theory introduced by Mr. Zhang from the foreign institutional school. In foreign countries, the institutional school is left, not right, and belongs to the non-mainstream. It is reasonable to be introduced to the Chinese interpretation reform, which has a set of theories, which can be explained before 1995, and there is still a certain amount of truth. We say that the exchange of power and money is to destroy the reform, and people make it clear that the reform is the exchange of power and money, and the part of the economic activities is changed from public decision-making to sī decision-making, and public power is changed to sī power, and the public power transferred is very special, and the specific transferor is not the owner of the power, but the agent of the subject, and the cadre is not the subject of the right, and the state entrusts the power to the cadres to exercise, so the cadre is the agent of the main body of power, including the manager of the state-owned enterprise, and the agent of the state-owned enterprise. The owner has no access to a direct exchange of power and money, only through an agent. ”

Shen Yuerong somewhat understood what Xiao Chen meant by this time, and asked, "Oh, you mean to say that the current property rights reform of some state-owned enterprises is a similar situation, right?" Cadres, as agents of the main body of power, transfer the interests of state-owned enterprises to certain individuals through some power-for-money transactions, so they constitute **? ”

Xiao Chen smiled, not admitting yes or no, but continued: "You see this is very interesting, it shows that my teacher is a more serious scholar, he said that there are two possibilities, 'if this exchange only occurs between the agent and the purchaser, and the power of the owner does not change, then the agent may repeat this exchange, and the owner can also change the agent, ** will continue to generate and have a divergent nature, public decision-making will not be able to become sī decision-making, and market-oriented reform will not be promoted'." Reform is to change the planned economy to a market economy, and the planned economy is that all societies are controlled by power, so you develop a market economy to transfer most of the public decision-making power to the hands of the people and society, and the transfer process of this decision-making will take place, so it will be a one-time thing. What he means is that if it is not a one-time thing, if it is not a one-time change of public power into sī power, then there will be no second time, if it can't be like this, it is just sold again and again, that is, you did not remove the public power when you exchanged power for money, and this ** you caught one and returned it**, that is, it is useless to say how many cadres you have changed. So what they mean is that the fundamental thing is not to arrest that cadre, but to give him public power nòng small, but they can tolerate a one-time **, and can tolerate this period of time for a certain period of time. Another situation is that at the same time as the exchange of power and money between the agent and the purchaser, or behind the exchange, the owner gives up this right, then the exchange can only be a one-time transaction, and the agent will lose the qualification of the agent, and the owner does not need and cannot find the agent again. In this way, the exchange of power for money and bribery have a convergent nature. As I said just now, this situation will be convergent, and only then can market-oriented reform really move forward. It can be seen that bribery and bribery are not only positive and negative behaviors, but also convergent and divergent two tendencies and results, and recognizing this may be of great significance for us to solve the problem of bribery and bribery in the reform. What they mean is that it is useless to criticize ** alone, and the analysis of the institutional school was relatively objective to my teacher ten years ago. That is to say, in the reform we can tolerate a one-time period of **, such as ten years of tolerance, in which the public power becomes the right of the sī people, and after the past, the reform is completed. ”

Shen Yuerong was dumbfounded when she heard this, feeling that this statement seemed a little ridiculous, but she felt that she had no way to refute it at all, so she had to continue to listen to Xiao Chen talk about this theory.

"There is another situation, that is, the system reform has not changed, the power has been sold once, and a new one has come up, and the nature of divergence is spread. There are also two explanations for the spread, according to the economic liberals' explanation, that is, you have not made up your mind to remove public power at the same time, and the liberals are very clear in their anti-** thinking, believing that there should be a stage of forbearance, and in the process of promoting the transformation of public rights into human rights.

But the more I talk about it, the more unkind it becomes, and it becomes advocacy. Thinking that Huaxia can build a free market system according to the path they designed, they oppose the planned economy utopia and also design another market utopia, artificially designing the ideal system, thinking very naïve, saying that we tolerate it for ten years, and we will not be in the first ten years, because in these ten years, we have promoted reforms, public power has shrunk, and after ten years, there will be less? The problem is that after ten years, there is no less, because ** interest groups have been formed, including theories, lines, cadres, and public opinion, and new ** are constantly being generated. Until the 21st century, I saw divergence but no convergence! Mainstream economists later said that they were going to cheat out a new system. Not optimal and suboptimal.

The mainstream economists in China attribute the existence of public power, the cost of supervision and law enforcement is too high, and it is not an economic thing for a society to allocate so much resources to oppose it, so it is necessary to vigorously promote the reform of denationalization, sell small and medium-sized state-owned enterprises on the open market on a large scale, and vigorously develop individual and sī enterprises. The behavior of political fǔ and regular anti-** is called Zhibiao, and these ** should have been sī rights but still belong to public power in Huaxia, which is a Pareto improvement, and anti-** should be very moderate, which is called mainstream economics. Some people who touted this statement is even more obvious: from the perspective of economics, we can only pursue the further advancement of reform, moderate existence, reform is the first, moderate existence is suboptimal, it is best to reform and not, this is optimal, what to do if there is no optimal, whether it is to be anti-** or reform, can only be reformed. The biggest advantage is that it can be further enhanced by marketization, and the anti-** promotion of the root cause is promoted through changes in the economic base, and finally Pareto optimality is achieved. It is difficult to carry out the reform smoothly without anti-reform, and the masses will oppose it, which will affect stability and unity, but it cannot be so strict that everyone in the government and officials will be in danger and completely lose the motivation to participate in the reform. It is openly proposed that it is not okay to oppose ** too much, and the officials will not reform. ”

Shen Yuerong was a little frightened when she heard this, and asked timidly: "This, I'm afraid it's not easy to master, right?" ”

Xiao Chen smiled: "I was still young in the 80s, but at that time, because of family relations, I was already more concerned about reform, and this was what the reformers meant at that time. This was the case in the 90s. There are other words: a generation of workers must be sacrificed for the sake of reform, a generation of peasants must be sacrificed for the sake of reform, a generation of girls must be sacrificed, the environment must be sacrificed, morality must be sacrificed. came out with Zhang Wuchang, who spoke most clearly: just give state-owned enterprises to those who have the power. What to do if the efficiency of state-owned enterprises is low, the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe are one person and one stock, called fair sī Youhua, Huaxia wants 1.3 billion people, 13 trillion state-owned assets are divided into 10,000 yuan per person according to the household registration book, called sī Youhua Securities, you can buy stocks with this, you can buy any enterprise, and then there will be no state-owned enterprises, this matter has never been discussed in Huaxia, the leftists said that state-owned enterprises cannot be divided, and the rightists said that sooner or later people will steal all the light, but the points cannot be divided equally, In the end, just give it to those who have power! Then it's not as good as even dividing equally, Zhang Wuchang said it very clearly, it is called **sī Youhua, and it is called exchanging assets for privileges. In recent years, this kind of MBO of state-owned assets is to give state-owned assets to operators. ”

Shen Yuerong glanced at Xiao Chen with some surprise, in her previous opinion, no matter how willing Xiao Chen was to fight corruption, but after all, he was a member of the so-called "bureaucratic privileged class", how could he not "dig his own grave", but after listening to Xiao Chen's words today, he was really a little shocked: Xiao Chen really had such thoughts, and even the "class" he was in was opposed. Shen Yuerong's heart moved: Could it be that there are really cadres who regard themselves as "servants of the people"? She was a little suspicious in her heart, but also a little moved, and suddenly felt that Xiao Chen was really not easy.

The most difficult thing in the world is to make an extremely sober and rational person willing to dig a grave for himself and bury himself alive with his own hands. And Xiao Chen, now, seems to have such a xiōng placket - or stupidity.

Xiao Chen didn't know what Shen Yuerong was thinking, but continued: "The other Mr. Zhang, who was praised by the media as a 'reform figure', continues to do things for the ** forces. What is he going to do? The first is the education reform of BGI, and he was promoted to assistant to the president, and many predict that he will soon be the vice president of BGI, leading the intellectual, ideological and social science circles in China. What reforms did he have? Those who have not studied abroad or published papers in foreign countries cannot become professors at Huada University, and all of a sudden the associate professors of Huaxia University are all stuck. This is not the corruption of ordinary officials, it is deep-seated, that is, the ** interest group wants to influence major decision-making, and it needs to be cultural comprador.

Now the children of the rich and powerful come back from studying abroad, first work as the director of the department in the state organs, and after three years have this experience, they will go to multinational companies, which is a trend, in some departments such as banks, people like a large number of people, who do not study abroad can not be cadres, and you will be removed in the name of lightweight. These people have learned some foreign models and can speak foreign languages, can such cadres be in key departments, I have always objected, what secrets are there in key departments? There is no concept of security, blindly in line with international standards, you don't underestimate the education reform of Huaxia University designed by Mr. Zhang, once this set of methods is implemented, it will be promoted throughout the country, and the intellectual circles and cadres will be completely westernized and compradors, which is not called **, but it is more dangerous than **, and a set of concepts is all justified. ”

Shen Yuerong felt that she was a little unspeakable, afraid that Xiao Chen would underestimate her, but she was also a master's student who graduated from the School of Business Administration of Northeastern University, in front of a senior leader like Xiao Chen who could link theory with practice, although she definitely couldn't say much, she couldn't stop talking at all, right? It's just that she is really not very good at this, so she thought about it for a while before asking: "The recent controversy over state-owned enterprises is the dispute between Lang and Gu, what do you think?" I feel that there is some truth in what Mr. Lang said. ”

Xiao Chen smiled, thought for a moment, probably organized the language, and then said: "The state-owned enterprise controversy, in fact, in my capacity, really shouldn't say much, now I will tell you my personal opinion - it does not represent the opinion of the Government Council, the National Development and Reform Commission and other institutions." ”

Shen Yuerong glanced at him: "I'm not a reporter, are you still afraid that I will leak your words?" ”

Xiao Chen smiled and said, "According to the recent controversy, I support Mr. Lang, of course, I personally have neither a so-called good impression of Mr. Lang, nor a bad feeling. In fact, Mr. Lang represents the center-left thinking cháo of the United States, but in China economists do not know it. Neoliberalism is also right-wing in the United States, and it is dangerous for them to control Chinese economics. For example, Mr. Zhang's things were touted by the domestic media, and a handful of media bigwigs rated him as a reform figure, which was indulged by some people. In many ways, especially in economics, public opinion is actually perpetrated by the neoliberalism of the far right. ”

Speaking of this, Xiao Chen felt that he was a little farther away, stopped the topic, thought about it, and continued: "This time, neoliberalism wants to take the opportunity of the handover of the top leadership of our central government before and after the central government to instigate local politicians and financial swindlers to join forces to eat state-owned enterprises, and the essential problem is this problem. I also know that most of the state-owned enterprises are indeed inefficient, and even if I admit all the máo diseases of the state-owned enterprises they say, they still can't be divided. I'll put it here, but I can't give it to you. Economists say that efficiency comes first. Now it's time to change it to fairness first. Our society, first of all, is reasonable, it is aimed at the planned economy, against egalitarianism, and now it has greatly exceeded the bottom line, and fairness should be mentioned. There is also a problem with the basic principles, not the implementation. This also involves the basic legitimacy of our state, does it mean that efficient people can deprive inefficient people of their property? What he means is that if your state-owned enterprises are inefficient, you can send them to the manager. That Mr. Zhang is praised as a representative figure in the business world, and he has a spitting theory: If you want to turn a state-owned enterprise into your own, you must first bring him down, because he will not give it to you if he does it well. It's like eating, you want to eat a good meal alone, what should you do, spit and spit inside, everyone can't eat it, only you can eat it. ”

Shen Yuerong frowned a little disgusted: "This analogy...... It's disgusting. ”

Xiao Chen laughed, took care of Shen Yuerong's feelings, changed the topic, and said: "I have also discussed this issue with several comrades in the committee, and I said at that time: You have learned so much about the spirit of the Central Committee, do you also pay attention to what kind of thinking really controls our society?" It's these kinds of words that really affect thinking, and believe it or not is a practical judgment. State-owned enterprises should not be rectified, it must be worse than private enterprises, the most want to be the manager of state-owned enterprises, these years to see the best benefits, not but not good. Some people are determined to do a good job even if they can do a good job, and we have no way to judge whether the state-owned enterprises can do a good job. That is, you have to change the property rights and give him the state-owned shares.

Can this be done? Let me tell you, I was delegated to work in the localities in the mid-nineties, and in fact in the early nineties I gave the property rights of the township enterprises to the operators. The operators must give a part of it to the political power at the grassroots level, and this is how the township enterprises themselves have developed. It turned out that there was nothing, and after the reform and opening up, there were capable people who had a relationship with local officials, and the township enterprises developed by integrating officials and capable people. If the property rights are clarified, they simply give them away, and the operators give a part of the benefits to the local officials. In fact, they helped to get it, and it's also true, the world is beaten by others, so in the end, it was given to him, and it was given, and it can't be traced back. That's not fair, but money has a place to be.

Not for state-owned enterprises. State-owned enterprises were fought out by revolution, how can they be divided. Collective enterprises may be divided, but this has nothing to do with the issue of efficiency, but involves the basic legitimacy of the state.

Managers of state-owned enterprises, for example, if you sent me to Baosteel to be the number one, I took a few students, we went to a hundred, and as soon as we went, we divided Baosteel, 100 million assets, which was originally good, but we said no, the state-owned enterprises were restructured, and an insider controlled, and Chengxin made Baosteel bad, and then said that the system was not good, and divided hundreds of millions of shares. After the distribution, I will definitely give everyone a copy secretly, do I dare not send it! A few of us have become hundreds of millions of dollars of property at once, and you still have one or two thousand yuan a month here? This world is not fought by us, this Baosteel is not built by us, there are still old factory directors, and old technicians, now we will be divided into a few people, not to mention whether the people can agree, can the officials be happy? Suppose we are in the Ministry of Metallurgy, and no one in the ministry will work, and they all say that we will go down to be the factory director. I estimate that state-owned enterprises will be divided according to the power system, and the operators will give away part of the public assets to the power layer that supports them behind them.

When I was working in Wucheng, I pondered that this is possible in township enterprises in southern Jiangsu, but not in state-owned enterprises. However, the local small and medium-sized state-owned enterprises have been sold almost, and my personal opinion is that it will be included in the anti-** framework, dating back to 1995, and the workers of the factory can sue. It is necessary to conduct a general investigation, and let him withdraw part of the embezzlement excessively, and it is not necessary to sentence him, because there is unfairness in the reform, and we will correct it. At present, there are more than 10 trillion yuan of assets of state-owned enterprises in operation, and there are still many non-operating assets! There are also barren mountains, wastelands, forests. There is also a large media and cultural industry, and the key is land and intangible assets.

The so-called asset management is now actually making land money. There is a misleading saying that state-owned enterprises are so cheap, because you have bad expectations, and expectations determine the price. But the land was expected to be good, and in the process, financial scammers and local officials colluded to resell the land and drive the workers out. It goes back at least 1995. In fact, I have always hoped that the National People's Congress will pass a regulation, but don't get caught up in the dispute between state-owned enterprises and enterprises, this debate is meaningless, it should be included in the anti-** track, enact a law on infringement of state-owned assets, re-check, and finally this argument will have an answer. It is necessary to let the common people know that the common people think that the state-owned enterprises have their share, and this involves the legitimacy of the revolution, and the constitution says so.

Many people, including young people, have changed their thinking, they say that the common people of China are really not things, and that state-owned assets are not the people's at all, so why should they care about state-owned assets?

Therefore, they hated the Internet very much, and even held a meeting: the social responsibility of the media, saying that the Internet reflects the opinions of the people too much, why should the government not care? That's what liberals say, and liberals are about freedom. The government has been strictly controlled, they think that it is not enough, the network must also be managed, that is, the people cannot be allowed to speak, and the people's dissatisfaction cannot be vented. The so-called liberals in China have taken this step very sadly, and their freedom proposition turned out to be the first in China. This discussion is that everyone helped Mr. Lang and set off a discussion, which is not an academic issue at all, but a social làngcháo on the Internet in which the whole people oppose a small number of people and divide power. Now that there is the Internet, social turmoil can be avoided. When the 16th Plenary Session of the Central Committee was held, there was a mass opposition to the division of power on the Internet, which was very, very good, and to be honest, the situation in China has never been so good, but I think it could be better. ”

Shen Yuerong was shocked again, and hurriedly asked, "Can I understand your words...... Do you think that the supervision of public opinion on the common people can be more lenient, so that the common people can send more prison sāo? ”

Xiao Chen shook his head and said: "It's not enough to send a prison sāo, it's to give the masses the power to supervise the government and state-owned enterprises, we have been talking about this for decades, in fact, can the masses really supervise the government?" There are times when there is a little, but there are too few of them, and the places that are really important cannot be supervised at all, and now they can be supervised; It's all a trivial matter, and it belongs to being released for you to supervise, indicating that I am still supervised, but in fact, in the final analysis, it is just a show. ”

"If you really spread this, I guess you will have to become a reactionary." Shen Yuerong pursed her lips and smiled: "I really didn't expect you to think like this." ”

"It's not like a reactionary, but it's certain that many people will be jealous." Xiao Chen shook his head slightly: "In fact, many leaders of the central government have this attitude, and it's not very unusual for me to think so, it's just that you didn't understand it before." ”

Shen Yuerong was a little unconvinced: "The central leaders also think so? So why haven't we seen a little change below us now? ”

Xiao Chen smiled bitterly: "The central leaders are not omnipotent, how did they come up?" Haven't you come up step by step from the tens of millions of party and government cadres below? If the entire grassroots level of the party and government does not support it, it is impossible for the central leadership to come strongly, and they have to go step by step, take their time, and seek progress while maintaining stability. ”

Shen Yuerong raised her eyebrows: "You big leaders, it's too complicated to think about the problem, I am dizzy...... Anyway, it's not ripe, right? ”

Xiao Chen mō chin down: "It's almost the same to say so, in fact, the current ** in China is a special historical problem, which requires a high degree of Chinese wisdom to prevent the left and right tendencies, and now is the best time for Huaxia to increase its anti-** efforts, from both domestic and foreign, there is such a situation." We have learned a lot of experience, if you really want to know something, I suggest you look at the Han Dynasty, Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, and then look at the Song Dynasty. The most glorious period of China was the period of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, and the second one was the period of Máo Zedong. The foreign wars in the two periods were all won, and using war to measure a country is a hard indicator (note: Xiao Chen's point of view does not represent Wufeng's point of view, this is the need of the plot). After the territory of China was fought out by Qin Shi Huang, to the period of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, the rule of Wenjing was prosperous for 20 years, and the luàn of the eight kings was caused by **, and after the pacification, Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty came up, very young, and he was going to fight the Huns, and he would clear it without military spending. During the period of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, a very large-scale liquidation was carried out, that is, 6% income tax was collected, and everyone declared their assets. Heavy rewards encourage exposure, after the exposure of half of the reward, false accusations on the side of the home, not false accusations on this side of the home, anyway, copy the side, a year will be rich, he said to stop can not be copied, the next people said why stop, we are copying is coming hard! Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty said that you think I really want to copy it, don't I just have no military funds;

Twenty years later, the Xiongnu were defeated, and only then did China have territory. Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty rebelled against ** this time, and the Xiongnu changed the history of all mankind, and beat the Xiongnu away, and the Xiongnu beat the Europeans to the Americas, killed all the Indians over there, and rose, and fought from there to India, from India to China again, which is two thousand years of human history.

To prepare for the fight on the treasure island, it is necessary to prepare for a military struggle. If you are not independent, you may not be able to fight, and if you are independent, you may not be able to fight to the death. This is a civil war, and you can fight it whenever you want, and you can study it in any way. It's not about who invaded whom, it's purely a civil war. The Kuomintang and the Communist Party have been fighting for more than 80 years, and now there is a Democratic Progressive Party, as long as it is a civil war, there is no need for any reason. The military was a little impatient, and the others were still a little scared. Last time, I listened to a few friends from the military chatting, and they said that let's learn from Chairman Máo, fight small, fight little by little, as long as the small fight starts, our side can fight back. Historical experience!

The Northern Song Dynasty is very similar to our current situation. The Song Dynasty was a very glorious period for China's economy, science and technology, and culture, with more GDP, iron production, and silver reserves than all countries in the world combined. The Northern Song Dynasty was a superpower, and it was a free trade center, the Silk Road. The economy was freer than it is now, land could be bought and sold freely, and land annexation immediately appeared, so there was the story of Fang La and Song Jiang. The economy is booming, prostitutes are everywhere, and the representative figure is Li Shishi. If the Song Dynasty had no external enemies, it would have been a world superpower for a long time. But unfortunately, there are enemies outside, it is the barbarians in the north, the backward productive forces, the backward culture, the Liao, the Western Xia, the Jurchen, the Manchus in the ancient and later generations, who do you say is the representative of the advanced productive forces, and whose GDP is high? There is no GDP over there, they are all fighting on horseback, and some of them don't even build houses. The higher the GDP, the less national defense, and the lower the GDP, which is in line with competition and cost-benefit.

We economists are misleading, talking about competition and trading. Transactions have to be exchanged equally, so it's better to grab it! He can't trade with you over there, he cuts you with a big knife, and the things are taken away, is it the highest profit and the lowest cost? Win-win is heard too much, and there is generally no win-win situation when it comes to competition, and there is only a win-win situation when the national defense forces are equal. That's how human history has developed, don't listen to globalization, neoliberalism has washed our brains for 20 years. On the one hand, they scolded Máo Zedong and the planned economy, saying that it was called brainwashing at that time. Haven't neoliberalism washed our brains in the past 20 years? A lot of concepts just let them wash! A lot of people don't understand! What is competition? Competition is fundamentally a conflict, one defeats the other, and there is only a deal and a win-win situation in exceptional circumstances, that is, when the two sides are equal in power. If you have a gun and I don't have a gun, won't you rob me! Is it possible to learn a little about the supply and demand curve of economics and forget history? At that time, the Northern Song Dynasty was to suppress the soldiers, and the soldiers could not be educated, so Di Qing and Yue Fei were out of the war, and they were killed because they were educated. It was not Qin Hui who killed Yue Fei, but Emperor Zhao Gao himself. The established national policy is neoliberalism, free trade. Encourage soldiers**, soldiers can go out and rob the people casually. Yue Fei was twenty-eight years old in civil and military affairs, and the common people set up a living monument for him, Yue Fei has not lost a single battle, you have to compare with him with European famous generals, this is not easy to compare, there are few famous generals in Europe who do not eat defeat in their lives, even Napoleon can't do it, if you really want to compare, it is equivalent to Alexander the Great in history. Of course, we have a comparison in China, such as Bai Qi Li Mu and the like, all of which belong to a lifetime of undefeated results...... Well, that's a bit of a stretch, and then again.

Continuing from the topic just now, since the Northern Song Dynasty, China has begun to decline, and such a great nation as ours has been constantly eaten and dismembered. By the Ming Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty, the relative position of the world was not restored. When it is the strongest, it forgets national defense, connives, and obviously has constant external troubles, so it is necessary to assume that there is no enemy outside, but there are enemies outside, and it is a culturally very backward enemy. It was really miserable when the Northern Song Dynasty died, such a big civilization began to decline, and many people couldn't accept it. Lu Xiufu carried the little emperor on his back and ran to the sea where she jumped in Shekou, Shenzhen, and 100,000 people followed him at that time. Then you can't fight a war with 100,000 people? Maybe it blocked the ancients in Hubei? Look at how Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty rose and how the Northern Song Dynasty perished. I mentioned this in a meeting with my colleagues, and I said that I don't think I need to learn any more messy Western economics, at least all of us here are the descendants of the **, and the descendants cannot accept the theories that disintegrate the party and the state. ”

Hearing this, Shen Yuerong burst out laughing.