493 We only work with third-tier units
At the beginning, Li Yuming gave the Ninth Academy Base an insult when he trampled on their Longwei 1 tank in front of all the bigwigs, so that Liu Yijiu had no good impression of the 617 base.
This is the country's largest tank R&D and production base, and it is also one of the first batch of military projects aided by the Soviet Union in the construction of the republic.
They have always had that very arrogant attitude, after all, compared to a third-tier factory like 541, which is mainly for backup, followed by production, they don't look down on it at all, let alone the backup unit of the backup factory of the Ninth Academy.
At the beginning, Li Yuming said about the five pairs of load-bearing wheels of the Longwei tank.
How many pairs of load-bearing wheels, not for anything else, but because these load-bearing wheels are related to the weight of the tank as a whole. The heavier the own weight, the weight wheel shares the overall weight, and also the overall weight of the tank during driving.
It's not for nothing that many people in the Republic have a soft spot for five pairs of load wheels, because the Republic is often unable to make heavy tanks.
Anyone who is engaged in tanks knows that five pairs of load-bearing wheels cannot bear 50 tons, or even 60 tons or 70 tons of heavy and super-heavy tanks. The real king of land warfare, is a heavy tank, not a heavy tank.
Otherwise, Liu Yijiu and the others would not have directly set up a project again to build a heavy tank after they had just developed the Longwei medium tank and had not continued to upgrade and improve the design.
Li Yuming used this to talk about things in the first place.
Liu Yijiu knows these people too well, and the entire republic, before the appearance of Type 99, was not considered to have a heavy main station tank at all. At present, the Type 79 main battle tank engaged in the 617 has a total combat weight of 36.8 tons, the Type 88 tank has a total weight of 38 tons, the Type 96 tank has a total weight of 41 tons, and the Type 99 has a total weight of 51 tons.
Of course, if you just talk about weight, it is completely impossible to measure the performance of these tanks. Weight is not a valid measure of performance. But. The heavier the main battle tank, the better the defense, and the more difficult it is to provide higher speed.
In time, when the 617 developed the Type 88 master station tank, the performance of these tanks was only close to the performance of the world's third-generation master station tank. And not already on top of the third-generation master tanks.
The Longwei type researched by the Ninth Academy started directly from the third-generation main station tank, and because of technical reasons, there is still some gap between the overall performance and the M1A2 tank, after all, the M1 tank made by the United States is twice as heavy as the Longwei. However, in some aspects, because Liu Yijiu has a golden finger against the sky, it can be said that it surpasses the design concept of the most advanced main battle tank of the United States imperialism.
It's just an idea, but it's not without the power of the M1 tank. According to Liu Yijiu's understanding, the number of victories and defeats should be 55, and to be specific, we must wait until after the 200 million war, and find a way to get Iraq a batch of their Longwei-1 type, and then we will be able to see the results.
It was only during the Second Gulf War that Chinese-made tanks had a chance to compete with the tanks of the US imperialists.
At that time, it was also close to the fall of the Soviets. It is time for US imperialism to begin to impose sanctions on China.
All of this is to prepare for that.
Time left for Liu Yijiu. It's only less than nine years.
"You ......" The middle-aged fat man was choked by Liu Yijiu and couldn't speak.
Liu Yijiu pouted, "You haven't made a heavy tank of more than fifty tons, don't be arrogant in front of us, otherwise, when your Type 79 comes out, let's compete?" Designed for a tank with a speed of fifty kilometers per hour. Weighing about the same size as us, but reaching the ratio of seventy dragon guards, I myself mention that you feel sad! You are a veteran tank research and production unit, personnel, funds. All kinds of things are tilted towards you, and there are only two or three hundred people in our entire Ninth Academy studying this aspect, and the funds consumed are not as much as a fraction of yours. If I were the leader of such a unit, I would just let the tanks we get out be crushed to death, where would I still have the face to show off......"
Hearing such vicious words, the middle-aged fat man almost couldn't catch his breath, and died of anger here.
Liu Qingshan's face became very ugly, and he immediately slapped him heavily on the table.
endured the sharp pain from the slap, and roared at Liu Yijiu with a blue face: "Liu Yijiu, you are enough!" If it weren't for your youth, I'd just kick you out! ”
Liu Yijiu didn't care about Liu Qingshan's exposure at all, pursed his lips, looked at him with contempt, and didn't speak.
In such a situation, it is basically impossible to cooperate.
"Minister Liu, who said that we have to cooperate in tank production? Although the technical condition of the 541 tank base is not very good, and the technical strength is not good, I think we can complete the small production orders in our hands through the 541 base. Liu Yijiu said lightly.
It's impossible to work with 617.
Unless the 617 tank base is replaced.
Of course, Liu Yijiu also has no way to do it, don't stimulate it, these grandsons will always gnaw on the old book and continue to be arrogant, they pretend not to see the progress of foreign countries, the above chief does not understand this, as soon as he asked, he directly used some professional things to stun them, and then told the chief, our foundation is too poor, we can't make such an advanced tank, we can only take it slowly, step by step to carry out research, the military industry can't eat a fat man.
This is an insult to the national defense science and technology workers who have quietly contributed to many secret scientific research units and produced countless advanced technologies, but have been sealed because of the cost and the interests of certain people.
Liu Yijiu didn't want to let such a thing happen again.
It's like big planes and advanced nuclear submarines.
Decades later, I picked it up again and did it again, and it turned out that the performance was not much higher than that of the seventies and eighties.
Even the much-criticized C919 is not much higher than the Yun 10. Moreover, C919, many things are foreign, although the design is made by yourself, the engine is imported, avionics is imported, and even a lot of materials are imported, which is so sad!
"You think we want to work with you? Boy, don't think you're out of shit luck. It's great to be able to make a tank, so we'll see! After the middle-aged fat man finished speaking, he ignored Liu Qingshan, the leader in charge, and left directly.
Seeing these conditions, the others looked at Liu Yijiu with a sneer, and then also said goodbye to Liu Qingshan.
Only the little old man who started the 530 factory did not leave.
"That's good. I see how you can complete such a huge production order in a short period of time! Liu Qingshan felt that he was about to have a heart attack, and after a long time, he sighed and said angrily to Liu Yijiu.
"Aren't there still many units that are preparing to be restructured or are in the process of converting military to civilian use! We are a third-line factory, and we only cooperate with third-line units! Liu Yijiu said disapprerovingly to Liu Qingshan.
After coming in for so long, he didn't sit down, but now there were fewer people, but it became natural, and he ran directly to the leather sofa opposite Liu Qingshan and sat down. Then he asked the old man, who was very curious about him, "Chief, why don't you leave!" ”
When the old man heard this, he smiled, "A backward rocket launcher has been sold by you hundreds of units at once, and our research and development progress is not good, and the research funds are also tight." Naturally, it's not as arrogant as other units. Comrade Xiao Liu, don't make fun of me. How about the order for 130 rocket artillery for three regiments was lost to our 530 plant? ”
"It's easy to say, anyway, we can't produce 130 rocket artillery vehicles, even if the Jialing factory has completed the transformation, it is just for the production of wheeled armored vehicles and some simple chassis ......" Liu Yijiu immediately smiled and stretched out his hand to the little old man.
"Alright, you kid don't mess with me here. Tell me, what do you want! Liu Qingshan was also helpless.
This time, Liu Yijiu's relationship with many first-line key production units was stiff. It is estimated that life will be difficult in the future.
This has nothing to do with his kid, but it embarrasses him Liu Qingshan.
Everything in the Ninth Academy requires the cooperation of the Fifth Machine Department, and it is directly to find Liu Qingshan to dispatch.
"It's not a big deal about this, isn't there a lot of third-line units in the military that want to be restructured and converted from military to civilian. Isn't it that many units can't survive, and those who are engaged in technology research and development in their units, we want it. In addition, select a group of strong units and give us as outsourcing supporting factories, when we have orders, they will produce military products, and when there are no orders, they will produce civilian products, if they do not produce, we can help them get some business......" Liu Yijiu did not hesitate to confide in his ambitions.
Hearing this, Liu Qingshan and the little old man of the 530 factory were both shocked.
"Your kid's ambition is too big! Eat so much, you're not afraid to kill you? Liu Qingshan said coldly.
He didn't expect that Liu Yijiu, a young man, would be so ambitious.
Now there are more than 10 supporting units in the southwest region alone, and after the 541 base, the entire system is more than 20,000 people.
He actually hit the idea of other supporting units of the Fifth Machine Department.
"I'll tell you kid, these units will be handed over to the newly established State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, as well as the newly established Development and Reform Commission......"
"The military doesn't have a little complaint? The State Assets Management Commission has the jurisdiction of all the collective ownership of all units in the country that do not belong to the military system, state-owned enterprises and other units, why should our military throw these units out? Minister Liu, do the bigwigs above really want to see these military industrial units that took 20 years of the country's huge manpower and material resources to build? Liu Yijiu couldn't fool the old man and the others in person, so he asked Liu Qingshan directly here.
Anyway, Liu Qingshan, they are not willing to give up the third-line factory.
"Leave a batch, let go of a batch, there are many industries managed by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, and our military industrial system, talents naturally cannot flow out indiscriminately. The country has spent countless resources and time to train talents who make guns and cannons, as well as planes, tanks, and artillery, can't they just let them design some plowshares, hoes, and the like? Liu Yijiu said lightly.
The third-tier factory must stay.
Especially many of them have a lot of development prospects.
"The conversion of the military to civilian use is something that has been discussed between the military and the government for a long time." Liu Qingshan let out a sigh of relief, and said indifferently, "At present, the military's funds can't support too many people......
"Let them be responsible for their own profits and losses, and retain the qualifications for the production of military products. There are large orders, the key production capacity is inclined to the production of military products, and if the development of products in the civilian market is good, the scale of production will be expanded! Liu Yijiu put forward a policy that would only be proposed by the state in the 21 st century.
Anyway, it's all national.
Only by retaining a large number of qualifications for the production of military products can some key units not allow those who have a relationship to buy cabbage at a price.
This is a permanent pain in the heart of the entire Chinese military industry.
In particular, he has great ambitions and wants to make China's military industry continue to develop strongly.
"You better leave this matter alone......" Liu Qingshan sighed.
"No matter if it doesn't work, now that our crimes in the front-line key units are ruthless, they won't pay attention to us at all, if we cooperate with them again, do you think it's possible? I can only find those third-line related units that are in a recession. Liu Yijiu said with a hippie smile.
Liu Qingshan immediately understood that this kid was doing it on purpose.
It was definitely deliberate, and he quarreled with the people of 617 at the beginning, after all, Li Yuming did look down on them at the beginning, and the bigwigs above all knew that Liu Yijiu was young, and it was normal to seize the opportunity to retaliate.
Even if 617 reported to the Logistics Department and the General Staff, it was in vain, and Liu Yijiu was young......
"Third-tier enterprises?" When the news reached the ears of the bigwigs, they had to get together again to discuss the matter.
The conditions of the third-tier factories are very poor, and many of them are in the ravines, and the unfavorable location advantages make these factories have no advantages at all. Even the conversion to the production of civilian products will become somewhat unfavorable due to the high transportation costs.
This is the most headache for the big guys above.
The newly established SASAC is also reluctant to take over these messes.
"That kid doesn't want to expand the jurisdiction of their Nine Courts again, does he? Can he manage it? Long Yaohua couldn't understand these questions.
What Liu Yijiu thinks, these wise leaders can't figure it out.
"No, he will not take over these units, he proposed to let these units continue to be restructured, still military to civilian, but still retain military production qualifications, civilian production subsidizes military production technology transformation, they are responsible for research and development, production to these units with military production qualifications. I think this plan is still very feasible. Liu Qingshan said to the big guys.
Hearing this plan, the eyes of all the bigwigs suddenly lit up.
In this way, the Ninth Academy will not worry about the cost of large-scale investment in infrastructure construction, and will pass on these costs to other units, so as to have more scientific research funds.
And the military-to-civilian enterprises, with Liu Yijiu's production orders, can not worry about bankruptcy in a short period of time and quickly change the current predicament. Orders close to one billion, even if only $100 million flows to some military factories that are in recession and the military has to give up, can still play a very big role. (To be continued......)