Chapter 617: Interview
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There is a lounge outside the hall of the venue, when Fan Wuxian walked over, he saw that there were several rows of relatively high sofas here, and there was a coffee table or something in the middle, the environment was relatively warm, but it seemed to be a tea bar.
As soon as he sat down, a waiter came running up to him and asked him if he needed anything.
Fan Wuxian asked for a while and realized that this place was dedicated to providing various ancillary services for the participants, so he asked, "So, what kind of pastime activities do you have here?" ”
"Recently, some periodicals and magazines are relatively complete, and there are tea and coffee, as well as fresh milk." The waiter didn't know Fan Wuxi, but seeing that he was so young and had just come out of it, he thought in his heart that this was probably the son of the boss of the family, but he didn't expect that he was Fan Wuxi, the owner of the world-famous Fan's Investment Group.
"Then have a cup of green tea, and then take a few financial magazines for me to see." Fan Wuxian thought for a while and said.
"Okay." The waiter said yes and turned to leave.
Within a few minutes, the waiter gave it. Fan Wuxian brought him freshly brewed green tea, as well as five or six new financial magazines in Shanghai, and in addition, he also brought him a hardcover notebook and a signature pen, which were prepared for him to have a casual record.
"Thank you." Fan Wuxi is more satisfied with the clothes here. It's much easier to stay here than to go back and listen to the talks of experts who don't distinguish between politics and business.
"You're welcome, whatever you need, just follow. when commanding us. The waiter smiled slightly, then turned and left.
Fan Wuxi nodded, and then drank tea while holding the miscellaneous. Zhi casually flips through the recent domestic and international news, mainly focusing on the two main topics of Southeast Asian economic recovery and the U.S. Internet economy.
More than half a year has passed since the riots broke out in Indonesia, and the Habibie government, with the financial assistance of Fan Wuji, has put a lot of effort into economic development to clean up the mess left by Suharto.
Economically, Indonesian inflation increased by nearly 100 in the first half of this year. Fifty percent of them is an increase of about 60 percent compared to the same period last year. In the months leading up to the riots, Indonesia was hit by a devastating drought that failed crops, followed by a financial turmoil that swept across Asia, with the rupiah depreciating by 70 percent and government cuts in subsidies for essential goods, leading to soaring prices, widespread hardship and social unrest.
And politically, Sue. Hato's thirty-two years of ** rule have long caused discontent in the hearts of the people. In the midst of a severe recession, this discontent erupts. At the same time, the anti-Suharto forces in the country also added fuel to the fire, using the power of the people to achieve the goal of overthrowing Suharto. And the army, which was the basis of Suharto's rule, was also divided.
Internationally, the United States and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) have pressured the Indonesian government to carry out economic reforms in accordance with its proposed plan in exchange for economic aid and loans, resulting in soaring domestic electricity and oil prices. At the same time, the situation in Indonesia, which is at the center of the storm, is particularly severe due to the outbreak of the Southeast Asian financial crisis.
These direct causes have led to the government raising the price of electricity, transportation, fuel, etc., and causing social unrest. The shooting of students and civilians by the military and police finally led to the escalation of the riots.
However, under Fan Wuxi's intervention, the ** riots were finally limited to a controllable range, and Habibie, who was supposed to be a transitional president, also eased relations with Chinese mainland at this time, and was further supported by Fan Wuxi's $50 billion in aid funds, which thwarted the conspiracy of the United States and the International Monetary Fund in one fell swoop and ensured economic independence.
Under the influence of Fan Wuxian and the general sympathy and strong pressure of international public opinion, Habibie, who succeeded Suharto as president of Indonesia, realized the mistakes of his predecessor and adopted a relatively progressive posture on the issue of the Chinese, not only personally inspected the people's situation in the Chinese-populated area of Jakarta, but also officially expressed his position on behalf of the Indonesian government and the people of the whole country to condemn the incident of hurting Chinese and women in some areas during the riots as the most inhumane incident in Indonesian history, and promised to investigate strictly, bring the rioters and murderers to justice, and ensure that such incidents will not be repeated.
The Habibie government also said that it would treat all Indonesians, including Chinese, equally, and ordered to stop stamping special marks on Chinese identity cards, and to cancel special administrative controls and some discriminatory laws and regulations against Chinese.
After Habibie successfully eliminated the opposition and pro-Suharto forces within the military and formed a new government, Indonesia began the process of modernization, and successively adopted a series of measures to ease the situation of the Chinese. For example, if we join the United Nations Convention on the Abolition of Racial Discrimination, abolish measures to discriminate against Chinese, legislate to protect Chinese, allow Chinese people to enjoy the same freedom of belief, association, procession, and demonstration as other nationals, allow Chinese people to develop their own culture, use the Chinese language, restore Chinese journals, Chinese education, and Chinese schools, incorporate Chinese education into the mainstream of national education, make Chinese a second language along with English and Japanese, designate universities to offer advanced Chinese language classes, and open all positions in the state's administrative, judicial, procuratorial, and educational institutions to Chinese people. Confucianism was recognized as a legal religion, and Chinese people were allowed to freely organize religious beliefs or folk activities.
According to some of the topics that Habibie recently mentioned to Fan Wuxian, he also promised that he would participate in the Spring Festival celebration and Yuanxiao Festival celebration held by the Indonesian Chinese this year together with some senior officials of the Indonesian government.
Among the magazines provided by the organizers of the conference, Fan Wuxian was surprised to find that there was a "Oriental News Interview" that he had never heard of, and this magazine was also the only magazine that positively mentioned the beginning and end of the Indonesian riots and the Southeast Asian financial crisis, and some of its views and arguments were quite pertinent and novel.
"Is Mr. Fan also paying attention to our magazine?" Someone's voice interrupted Fan Wuxi's thoughts.
Fan Wuxi looked up, but found that the beautiful reporter he met before entering the venue, that is, Sheng Wei, a reporter from "Oriental News Interview", was standing beside him at this time, looking at himself with a smile, and the "Oriental News Interview" magazine in his hand.
Turning his head in his direction, he just saw Sheng Wei's full **, of course, through his clothes.
Probably Sheng Wei was still very uncomfortable with being seen from this angle, so he hugged his handbag to his chest, and then looked at Fan Wuxi, as if waiting for his answer.
Fan Wuxian also felt that it was a bit indecent to look at people like this, so he stood up, closed the magazine, and stood face to face with Sheng Wei, he asked with some curiosity, "Why did Miss Sheng suddenly get in?" Didn't you just squat outside before? ”
Sheng smiled for a moment, and then replied, "Our boss has made a lot of effort to finally get a license to conduct in-depth interviews before the summit closes, and now our magazine has the same treatment as other mainstream media, otherwise it would not be possible to meet Mr. Fan here." ”
"That's to congratulate you, well, you've done a great job with that magazine." Fan Wuxian nodded.
In all fairness, the magazine "Oriental News Interview" is still doing well, and one of the most attractive points about Fan Wuxian is that they are relatively bold, and they do maintain their own style in terms of journalistic independence. After all, the domestic news media has been silent about the Indonesian riots, and there are indeed few who dare to report it positively.
Sheng Wei said, "Thank you Mr. Fan for your support, I just saw that you are reading the report on Indonesia, why don't you talk about your views on Indonesia's Chinese exclusion issue first?" ”
"Did I agree to be interviewed?" Fan Wuxian asked with a smile.
"At least you didn't object." Sheng smiled.
Fan Wuxian laughed, and then said, "I don't really want to talk about this issue, but since there are not many media in China reporting on it, and your magazine has been tracking and reporting on the progress of this area, I might as well say a few words casually." ”
"Listen up." Sheng Wei took out the voice recorder, then took out the notebook, put it on the table very seriously, and sat down himself, looking at Fan Wuxian with full attention.
"Your gesture is a bit too formal." After seeing it, Fan Wuxian said, "It makes me feel a little uncomfortable, as if at a State Department press conference." ”
Fan Wuxi beckoned casually, immediately called a waiter, and instructed him to bring Sheng Wei a cup of tea, and then said to Sheng Wei, "The fundamental reason for the Indonesian Chinese exclusion incident is nothing more than two points, one is the economy, the other is religion, and some other reasons are attached to these two reasons." ”
"Can you be specific?" Sheng Wei asked as he tapped on the keyboard on his notebook.
The difference in economic income is an important factor that induces the wave of Chinese exclusion in Indonesia. In Indonesia, the gap between the rich and the poor is very wide, and the majority of Indonesians have not been lifted out of poverty after independence, but have become increasingly poor, forming a large and large class of poor people, which has become a potential threat of social unrest in Indonesia.
Like the local ethnic group, most of the Chinese in Indonesia also belong to the working people and are also in the middle and lower classes of Indonesian society, but the Chinese have made outstanding achievements in industry and commerce with their special business talents and hard work, coupled with historical, occupational and other factors, forming a Chinese artificial business group, which has obvious advantages in economic life.
"On the whole, the standard of living of Chinese families is also significantly higher than that of local families. In particular, some Chinese entrepreneurs have a very close relationship with the upper echelons of the Indonesian government, and take advantage of this close relationship to cooperate with officials and businessmen and share benefits, so as to become nouveau riche and live a luxurious life, which is very eye-catching. "Therefore, there is a common impression in Indonesian society that the Chinese are rich, that the Chinese control the economy and wealth of Indonesia, exploit the local people, and the poverty of the local people is caused by the exploitation of the Chinese." Naturally, Indonesia's nationalists cannot tolerate this phenomenon, and certain interest groups in the Indonesian ruling class that have not been able to share in the benefits of the Chinese economy are also holding their backs, coupled with the loud and exaggerated propaganda of politicians and propaganda tools, when the political situation is slightly turbulent, the dissatisfaction and anger of the poor masses of the people over the inequality between the rich and the poor will erupt like a volcano, and the Chinese who are different from their economic income will be the first to be affected. ”
Sheng Wei recorded very carefully and also asked a question, "Mr. Fan, you just said that religious issues are also the main reason for the hatred of Chinese in Indonesian society, how did you come to this conclusion?" ”
Fan Wuxian nodded and replied, "The religious beliefs of the Indonesian Chinese are very complex, and various religions such as Mahayana Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Christianity, and Islam all have a large number of believers among the Indonesian Chinese. At the same time, the Indonesian Chinese also advocate ancestor worship. Chinese groups from different regions, speaking different dialects, engaging in different industries, and having different surnames are confident in worshipping special gods, such as the Hakka people believe in Da Bogong, the Hokkien people believe in Mazu, the Hainan people believe in Tianhou Niangniang, and the carpenters worship Luban Patriarch. Although Indonesia is also a country with religious diversity, Islam has an absolute advantage in Indonesian society. After Indonesia's independence, thanks to the support and encouragement of the government, the influence of Islam in Indonesian society expanded dramatically, rising to become the dominant religion. Islam is a more exclusive religion, and the core of its doctrine is that only Allah can be believed, and there is no god but Allah. The more devout and conservative the Muslims, the more limited their tolerance for other religions and cultures, and naturally they will not be able to live at peace with the many gods and goddesses that the Chinese believe. As a result, religious disagreements and conflicts are often a sensitive underlying factor that induces anti-Chinese riots to erupt in Indonesian society. ”
Sheng Wei asked Fan Wuxian a lot of questions, from the Southeast Asian financial crisis to the Internet economy, from the domestic real estate new deal to the downturn in the stock market, and talked about it for more than an hour.
"Can I ask you another question?" Sheng Wei asked.
"The last one, I can't say it anymore, and if I talk about it again, I'll expose all my personal **." Fan replied.
"Can you talk about what you think about Chinese football?" Sheng Wei asked.
Fan Wuxi's face changed, and then he hurriedly waved his hand and refused, "I think it's better for you to ask me a personal question, I really have nothing to say about Chinese football." ”
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