I've also heard some rumors about you, saying that you have a cannon in your mouth, questioning some of the country's industrial policies, and it's a bit of a grandstanding, and the hat is quite big for you, but I can't see the real chapter of what kind of problem it reflects, let's talk about it, I want to hear if you can fire this cannon accurately......"

Ying Dongliu was also very interested, and while eating, he said without any impact at all.

Zhao Guodong was also not polite, and explained his understanding and harvest in the National Development and Reform Commission for more than a month, as well as some of his thoughts and opinions.

In front of Ying Dongliu, he felt that he could let go more, on the one hand, he was his old leader, and he knew himself very well, on the other hand, he was not his direct leader, but he was in charge of the secretary of the municipal party committee of Jinmen, a big city in the north.

Ying Dongliu is also very interested in some of Zhao Guodong's views and views, especially Zhao Guodong's point of view on the steel industry of the national basic industry, which also caused him to think about some of Qilu's ideas in the steel industry is not a secret, which has made some private iron and steel enterprises feel uneasy, the integration of iron and steel enterprises is the general trend, but who should integrate whom, which should be a market problem but in front of the government. In the government's view, state-owned iron and steel enterprises that can obey the government's instructions, undertake more social obligations and assume more social responsibilities are natural integrators, and the background of state-owned assets can certainly make the integration and merger between state-owned enterprises seem to be a matter of course, but what about private enterprises?

If a private enterprise is small in scale and has poor efficiency, it is naturally not a problem, but it is also a private enterprise with a large scale or even better effect, so what should we do?

These are all quite real problems in front of us.

National laws or the spirit of industrial policy, as long as the steel industry is required to achieve scale, the integration of existing iron and steel enterprises, but there is no provision for who to merge whom, in the eyes of economists this is a very simple problem, the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, the law of the market should play a role, but when it comes to the most real and specific problems, it is quite tricky.

"The key is fairness and fairness, some people say that the efficiency of state-owned enterprises is not as good as that of private enterprises, that is because of greater social responsibility, and more social obligations, then our national laws and regulations have gradually improved, for private enterprises we can also regulate and restrain in accordance with laws and regulations" For the burden of state-owned enterprises, if it should be borne by the government, then the government should take it over as a matter of course, such as the social undertakings run by enterprises, the government should take over, And whether it is an environmental protection problem that is criticized by a private enterprise, or an illegal occupation of land, you strictly follow the laws and regulations to standardize, what is not to do? Are there any of these problems in state-owned enterprises, and if they are, then they are equally discriminatory! I think that what private companies want is nothing more than justice......"

"I think if your state-owned enterprises can't compete with private enterprises in a fair and equitable environment, then why can't you merge with private enterprises? And your state-owned enterprises can also use their own scale advantages and human resources, management and many other advantages to merge private enterprises, "what I want to say is that your state-owned enterprises have no power and no reason to use the government's administrative power and administrative resources to achieve the merger of private enterprises, if you do this, this is unfair and unjust."

"Maybe some people will talk about holding such basic industries as the steel industry must be in the hands of the state, in order to prevent industrial security and risks, in my opinion this is a self-deceptive cowardice and lack of self-confidence, like a big country like China, one or two enterprises that do not have the nature of the stem at all are private, will it cause industrial security? What exactly does industrial security mean, is it afraid that the power of private capital will become larger, or is it worried that foreign capital will take the opportunity to invade? Is the Ministry of Commerce just eating dry rice? They really just closed their eyes and listened......"

Zhao Guodong's words are quite sharp, "Ying Dongliu is also thinking about the deep meaning of the other party's words, it should be said that at present, the view of restricting private enterprises to enter some industries under the pretext of industrial security is widespread in the party and government at all levels, but in Ying Dongliu's view, it is more of a kind of reluctance to give up the huge power of the previous government to control the economy, the heads and managers of state-owned enterprises are in their own hands, and its economic and financial power can be intervened by the government at any time. Once it becomes a private capital or even a joint-stock system, it will not be so easy for the government to point fingers at it.

Ying Dongliu felt that it should be this kind of narrow-minded and even ugly and unspeakable mentality that was causing trouble, and if someone mixed it with personal selfishness and distractions, it would be even more complicated.

The debate on this issue will continue, from top to bottom, this issue has actually been discussed and discussed by countless people, but there has never been a clear statement, which is also limited by the complexity of the national situation, but there are few such clear statements as Zhao Guodong's role at this level, everyone can only tacitly put it on the table, so this time Zhao Guodong's remarks are only the so-called personal views within a certain range, but the huge impact can be imagined.

Ying Dongliu did not comment on this issue, in fact, he could not comment, if Zhao Guodong can also use his personal views as an excuse, after all, he is only the deputy director, and his "personal views" are only for reference, and if he makes a rash statement, then the impact will be completely different, even if only the four of them are present, he can't make any statement.

However, Zhao Guodong's proposal that state-owned and private chemical enterprises should decisively go abroad to participate in the development and control of upstream resources should be quite agreed, especially Zhao Guodong's proposal that private enterprises should be given targeted support, and that they should take advantage of the small interference of political factors in overseas mergers and acquisitions and investment to encourage them to go out and show their strength in the resource and technology industries.

After eating this meal, the two ladies basically became bystanders who had nothing to do, and Zhao Guodong and Ying Dongliu's endless waves also constituted the main theme of this small gathering, after eating, several people also walked slowly along the Houhai Sea in the late spring breeze, Zhao Guodong and Ying Dongliu were in front, and the two women were behind, while discussing, strolling, and having a bit of a style of discussing the world's affairs. As the first economic town in the north, and the maritime gateway of the capital and the most important maritime port in the north, the economic development of the city has obviously lagged behind that of other municipalities in the central government, not to mention those economically active areas in the south.

Although there is still a gap in the economic strength of Anyuan compared with Guangdong, Jiangsu, Shandong, and Xizhou provinces, it is gratifying that the pattern of Anyuan's dominance of Andu in the past has been completely broken, and the rise of Ningling and the rapid development of emerging cities such as Huaiyou and Yongliang, coupled with the appearance of economically backward areas such as Tangjiang, Tongcheng and Rongshan, have shown great changes, all of which have benefited from the eclecticism of the provincial party committee headed by Ying Dongliu in employing people.

It was precisely because he saw Ying Dongliu's ability to show in the position of secretary of the Anyuan Provincial Party Committee that Zhongyangyang had such an arrangement, and Ying Dongliu actually did not have much mental preparation before Zhongyang's decision, so that after arriving in Jinmen, he also realized how painful it was to lack one or two roles that could help him open up the situation.

"Guodong, if you hadn't come to the National Development and Attack Committee this time, I really wanted to suggest to the Central Chalk Central Committee that you come to Jinmen, and I can now understand the pain of a good woman who can't cook without rice." Ying Dongliu said half-jokingly: "How about it, are you interested in coming to Tianjin, I guess you can't stay in the National Development and Reform Commission for three or five years, right?" As long as you are interested, my door is open for you at any time, if you don't want to say it, I will go to the ministers and vice-chairmen. ”

"Dongliu Shuchalk, is it inappropriate for you to say that I have only been here for a month and have been pondering the matter of leaving? If I have the opportunity to go to Jinmen, then I would rather not go to this NDRC, and I would rather go down to the lower side to do something in a down-to-earth manner than to command the commander in the position. Zhao Guodong said with some emotion.

"Guodong, what you said is not right." Ying Dongliu changed his attitude, and said: "National ministries and commissions, especially those like the National Development and Reform Commission, are also an unprecedented opportunity for you, I can quite absolutely assert that your experience in the National Development and Reform Commission will benefit you for a lifetime, and everyone's experience in each period is quite valuable for a person's growth, just like when you go to southern Yunnan as the head of the organization, do you feel that you have benefited a lot?" Then this experience of the National Development and Reform Commission will make you go to the next level, which is the only way for you to embark on a more important job in the future, I can use a metallurgical professional term to describe, just like the ancient masters forged a peerless sword when the last pass was quenched one by one! ”

Ying Dongliu was obviously satisfied with his choice of words and sentences, and repeated a sentence quite proudly, "Quenching, yes, is quenching, only after experiencing quenching, will you really enter the realm of entering the house!" ”

Silent two tears, whine.

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