1229 Will Yun 20 repeat the old road of Yun 10?

"With a design take-off weight of 220 tons and a maximum load of more than 60 tons, is it not possible?" Liu Yijiu glanced at Qiu Yue. Pen "Fun" Pavilion www.biquge.info

If this old man sees the An-225 that the Soviet Union has already made, I don't know if his eyeballs will fall.

Of course, in front of the Y-20, which has a fuselage height of 16 meters, the human beings of one meter seven or eight do seem too small. After all, Yun 10 is more than 10 meters high, the height of a four-story building, but compared with Yun 20, the width is a lot less, and the length of the slender Yun 10 is not much different from the length of Yun 20, but the entire take-off mass and load capacity are too different.

Isn't it big!

"I'm just feeling emotional. If this is used to airdrop soldiers, how much can it be transported at one time? Qiu Yue first asked about the military use of this large aircraft, especially the function of long-range delivery of soldiers, "How many planes do we need to deliver all the ground troops at one time?" I heard that you are going to airdrop even combat vehicles, if our missile forces and armored forces use transport planes to drop ......"

Qiu Yue really didn't regard himself as an outsider, and was completely questioning Liu Yijiu as the deputy commander.

He hasn't been with the Blues yet.

Liu Yijiu rolled his eyes at him, took a deep breath, suppressed his anger and said to Qiu Yue, "You really don't pay for the military, don't feel the pain of the flesh!" If the missile forces and the heavy ground armored forces are both airdropped, not to mention the three brigades of our blue army, even if all the ground forces can be airdropped, we can equip them, and the military can afford to raise them? ”

Qiu Yue looked at the others in a daze, and stopped talking.

"The design of the Y-20 was originally designed in the direction of a comprehensive air platform, because our AWACS aircraft, transport aircraft, air tankers, and even civil airliners are based on this...... It's a huge plan......" Ma Fengshan introduced to Qiu Yue, he didn't know that Qiu Yue had retired from the top of the military and entered the Blue Army as the deputy commander, the head of the military, and he didn't know their plans, so he liked to explain to them.

When he was engaged in Yun Ten before, he ran scientific research funds or something, as the chief designer, he naturally had no less, but at present, there are no previous things, he doesn't like to do things that have nothing to do with scientific and technological research and development, but he also knows that the military bosses in front of him have a great role in their projects.

"This is very good, even if there are not many orders for the military, they can be put into the civilian market, so that it is easy to reduce the cost of research and development. Very nice way! Qiu Yue was full of approval. Of course, only our military, if there is sufficient funds, the amount needed is not a little bit, although we are only implementing the defense strategy, our army does not need to be put on foreign battlefields over long distances, but our country is vast, and the current main force of transport aircraft, that is, the Y-8, the transport volume is too small, more than 100 tons or even larger transport aircraft have a great demand, as you said, early warning aircraft, air tankers, and even strategic bombers ......and so on."

Since it is a prototype, it is very normal for it to be used for other functions after modification.

Even though Qiu Yue has been in the central government for less than 10 years, he is very familiar with some of the military's developments.

The future direction of the development of the armed forces, even if we cannot see what the future situation will be too far away, can still reveal some inside information.

Liu Yijiu and others did not ask him because Liu Yijiu himself knew the direction of the development of the PLA in the future, and even more so knew the development of military equipment in various countries in the world, but others did not know.

"If the chief succeeds, how many orders the military will be able to make, can you disclose it?" Ma Fengshan's question made Liu Yijiu and others a little surprised, when did he start caring about orders?

Immediately, he was a little angry, "Mr. Ma, is there a problem with our transportation funds?" ”

Ma Fengshan was a little confused about Liu Yijiu's question, looked at Liu Yijiu, saw that his face was not good-looking, and couldn't help but wonder what he had done wrong, so he immediately asked him, "Director Liu, where did this start, our Yun 20 project has been established from the beginning to the present, whether it is technical support or anything else, there is no delay, and the funds are sufficient, otherwise we would not be able to directly assemble two prototypes at one time!" ”

"Since there is no shortage of funds, and other cooperation is in place, why are you paying attention to this now? Technical personnel, the main job is to engage in technology, not to think about things that have nothing to do with technology research and development......" Liu Yijiu said solemnly, "Regardless of whether the military has an order, even one cannot be sold, we still have to continue to research, as long as our Ninth Academy is still there, the investment in this area will not be less!" ”

When Liu Yijiu's words came out, Ma Fengshan immediately knew where his nameless fire came from.

couldn't help but explain to Liu Yijiu with a little crying and laughter, "Director Liu, although we technicians should not think about things that have nothing to do with technology, I also know that even if there are no orders, our research will not stop, unless the day the Ninth Academy falls or the system of the Ninth Academy changes." However, as a chief designer, what does it have to do with waste when designing a product that consumes a lot of money from the country, but in the end it cannot play any role. Although we have also acquired technical reserves, technology needs to be translated into physical objects and used in order to be useful......"

For Liu Yijiu's anger, Ma Fengshan was very moved.

For him, as long as Liu Yijiu is still there, then there will not be the slightest shortage of funds for them.

But the more this happens, the more pressure they have, and at the same time, the more they want to help Liu Yijiu reduce the pressure.

Unexpectedly, at this time, Liu Yijiu was actually angry about this matter.

"If it's just 20, I won't have any pressure without an order, but before that, we still have 10. Before the Ninth Academy took over, the project had already cost nearly 600 million, and the value of the money was completely different from the current value. In the past few years, the Yun 10 project, in the project of the Ninth Academy, is basically a project that consumes a lot, and the research has been successful for such a long time, there is no order for a single plane, if the Yun 20 is still like this, Director Liu, we stick to it, is it still useful? ”

Yes, if the high-tech products researched are not even purchased by the state, what is the use of research?

There was some silence among all.

Many people even cast their eyes on Qiu Yue.

Many of these bigwigs in the military are now staring at foreign countries, believing that the moon abroad is rounder than China, and that the technology of anything abroad is better than that of China.

Europe's Airbus was established in 1970, the same year as the launch of China's Yun-10 project, and the A300 aircraft they developed was not much more advanced than Yun-10, but because of the protective orders of several major European countries with investment, as well as the sufficient funds brought by these orders, their development far exceeded China's project.

Now that there is Yun Twenty to catch up with them, and even be able to surpass them in some aspects, if there is no order, the future of Yun Twenty can be imagined.

With the development of more and more projects of the Ninth Academy to a critical period, no project can be solved by millions or tens of millions of dollars in the past, and it is often hundreds of millions and billions, not to mention the development of a new generation of models after the 20th model, only the future model improvement of this transport aircraft, these funds can not be guaranteed.

No one can guarantee a consistent investment in a project that seems to be unable to generate investment returns and that requires more investment over and over again.

Liu Yijiu couldn't even insist.

As the director of the entire base, all problems are taken into account, and a lot of pressure is actively shouldered on his shoulders, but the concerns of the technical staff are not taken into account at all.

Faced with such a statement, Liu Yijiu sighed helplessly, "Large aircraft are different from other projects, even if we need a very large amount of funds every year, we give up some other unimportant projects, and the development and improvement of large aircraft cannot be stopped." At the moment, the country may not need large aircraft, but in the future, it will definitely be needed. Both the Soviet Union and the United States had a very large air transport force. Otherwise, in the event of a war, we will not be able to keep up with our logistical supplies or something, and in the end we will have to fill the ...... with human lives, just like in the Korean War."

Qiu Yue, who was on the side, heard these words, the corners of his mouth twitched, listening to the conversation between the two people, he always felt that Liu Yijiu had already discussed it with the technicians of the 708 Institute and the senior officials of the large aircraft factory before this.

Obviously saying these things to yourself!

But even if you don't retire, you can't manage this kind of thing, right?

When it comes to major national affairs, it's not just someone who says it that can work.

"I said two, wouldn't it? Didn't you say that if the Yun 20 is successfully developed, there will be no fewer orders? This is different from Yun Shi, if the performance of Yun Shi is more advanced, the transportation volume is larger, not narrow-body, the military can order a batch......" Qiu Yue was a little unable to listen.

Besides, I guess I'm embarrassed to stay here.

"Besides, I can't guarantee whether the Ministry of Defense will procure it, at least, the amount of equipment for the Blue Army will not be less, right? Just for transportation, you have to get a lot of quantity. There are also AWACS aircraft, although the number of this thing is not large, even if there is only one in service, it must be at least three, one on combat readiness, one on standby, and there must be a strategic reserve or something......"

Unlike other aircraft, AWACS aircraft basically have to stay in the sky for three days.

Especially when monitoring a certain direction.

"You've said it yourself, and there's still civil aviation......

"Let's not talk about civilian use, at present, there is no order for ten planes. Other countries dislike us, don't say it, our own country dislikes it......" Ma Fengshan said that he was angry.

Why did they dismount before Yun Shi, they are very clear.

Funding is one thing, but after the launch of the operation, the Civil Aviation Administration of China turned to the United States McDonnell Douglas to negotiate the production of McDonnell Douglas aircraft in China, which made them very dissatisfied.

If the order is given to the Yunshi team, they will be able to rely on the funds of the project itself to support the project to continue to run.

"This ......" For a moment, Qiu Yue didn't know how to answer.

He is only at the top of the military, not at the top of the state.

Since the beginning of reform and opening up, the military and political affairs of the country have been completely separated, and there will be no such thing as military personnel interfering in government affairs at all.

"Okay, let's introduce our Yun 20 to the chief, after all, Yun 10 is only thinking about civilian use, and I didn't think about military at the beginning." Liu Yijiu didn't want to continue on this matter. "The technological development of Yun 10 must be maintained. The military is very reluctant, after all, it was designed for civilian use at the beginning. From the beginning of the design, the main consideration is the military aspect! ”

"Yes, let's introduce the various situations of Yun Twenty. It is already a very remarkable thing that such a huge aircraft in front of us can be designed and produced in China. Who would have thought that the level of technology in our country has reached such a level! Qiu Yue also hurriedly said.

Whether Fortune Twenty will be like Fortune Ten, he can't guarantee.

While the military is concerned, and the Chinese military has a demand for larger aircraft with longer range and larger transport volumes, the military is currently considering bringing in from abroad, rather than issuing missions at home.

This has a very big relationship with the Ninth Academy taking over the Yun-10, except for a very small number of people in the military, more people do not know that there are still large aircraft projects in China, and even the original large aircraft projects have not been shelved but have been being studied.

"No matter how advanced it is, it's useless to ......have no orders," Cheng said faintly from time to time.

Is this more exciting?

Qiu Yue looked at Liu Yijiu, who was also looking at him, which made Qiu Yue think that Liu Yijiu was doing it on purpose! "I said, "Are you more energetic? I'm not the head of the military now, I'm just the deputy commander of the Blues......"

It's just a scoundrel.

Keep going, it's just endless.

In any case, the Twenty could not have the same fate as the Twenty, because the Blues had to be equipped with at least twenty or more.

In peacetime, it belongs to the management and use of the Blue Army, and when the military needs it, it still has to be mobilized for the military to use, which can be regarded as the military increasing the strength of some equipment in disguise. Otherwise, there would not have been three generals in a secret force like the Blues, which had only three brigades, and at the same time, there were even more major generals.

However, Qiu Yue couldn't say this!

(To be continued.) )