Director Tong, I think so, just like Director Quan Jun just said, it is still the initial negotiation, I think it is better to have a few more companies to participate in understanding, it should be said that Hualu and Minmetals have great advantages compared with other private enterprises, in my opinion, even if this series of projects is really successful, private enterprises can only be more as participants rather than leaders, why Hualu and Minmetals can not compete with private enterprises? Zhao Guodong said lightly: "Take a step back and say, if it is true that Hualu and Minmetals cannot cooperate with private enterprises, then our National Development and Reform Commission, the Ministry of Commerce, and functional departments can also carry out intermediate adjustment, and I think the worry of vicious competition can be put down." ”

Zhao Guodong's words made Tong Liguo's face a little gloomy after being slightly suffocated, but his complexion was still good, not cloudy, but Fu Quan nodded slightly, obviously agreeing with Zhao Guodong's point of view.

"Well, I think Director Guodong's idea can be considered, at present, there is a strong voice in foreign political and economic circles, that is, the hostility to China's state-owned enterprises to go out to participate in investment and mergers and acquisitions is very strong, on the one hand, they think that our state-owned enterprises represent the country, with national politics and capital as the backing, is a non-market economy competition" On the other hand, they are also worried that state-owned enterprises are helping the country to carry out strategic control and acquisition, especially in the resource industry, this hostility and worry is more obvious, It can be seen from the fact that some enterprises under the Ministry of Energy are dealing with and cooperating with European and American oil companies, and this sign is quite prominent, and if private enterprises join in, it may be able to dilute and weaken the impact of this aspect. ”

Unexpectedly, He Lizhi interjected and talked about her own opinions, which surprised Zeng Quanjun and Tong Liguo.

Zeng Quanjun realized that there have been some subtle changes in the views of the Venezuelan on this issue, which should be related to the "36 Articles on Promoting the Development of the Non-public Sector of the Economy" issued by the State Council last year: "It is clear that Zhao Guodong and He Lizhi are among the figures who support this view, and Fu Quan seems to be inclined to gradually lift the ban in this field."

"Well, Director Lizhi's views are also very representative, at present, when foreign enterprises, especially European and American enterprises, compete with our state-owned enterprises in overseas markets, they always repeatedly accuse the nature of our state-owned enterprises, thinking that we represent state institutions, not normal market competition, and deliberately exaggerate the harm that state-owned enterprises may bring to the resource security and industrial security of the host country when entering these fields, and wantonly slander the economy and resources of the host country will be controlled by our country, which has also caused some countries, especially Southeast Asian and African countries, to worry." In addition, some of our state-owned enterprises have not adapted well to the national conditions and corporate culture of the country where they are located after entering the market, and have not been able to effectively integrate into the society of the country where they are located, resulting in constant disputes, which has also become the pretext of European and American enterprises.

Fu Quan also joined in and analyzed and elaborated on this issue.

"Of course, we can't retreat because of the smear and slander of those European and American companies, but we must also consider resolving these unfavorable factors from many aspects" I think private enterprises join in, not to mention to effectively alleviate this sentiment abroad" But private enterprises also have many weaknesses, such as the overall strength, corporate culture and adaptation to foreign laws are shortcomings, they have great benefits to join, but there are also many risks, Therefore, on this issue, the NDRC should take a reasonable and appropriate approach to guide them in, as Director Guodong said, if we can promote close cooperation between state-owned enterprises and private enterprises in many fields and specific projects, it may be a win-win result. ”

Fu Quan's point of view compromises the opinions of Zhao Guodong, He Lizhi and Tong Liguo, private enterprises can certainly enter, "but the National Development and Reform Commission and the Ministry of Commerce should reasonably guide, grasp the initiative, coordinate the relationship between state-owned enterprises and private enterprises in the same field, especially when the same project" to avoid possible vicious competition, in this regard, we need to grasp a fair and just scale, and strive to achieve a win-win situation.

"But Director Fu, it may not be easy to achieve a win-win situation on this issue, state-owned enterprises and private enterprises are enterprises, are aimed at profit, for their own interests inevitably to adopt various means of competition, especially the mechanism of private enterprises is more flexible, the means are more diverse, which also leads to state-owned enterprises may also compete from other aspects, which is very likely to change from healthy competition to vicious competition, and it is also unknown how much intervention power the government functional departments can exert on this issue." Wei Xingxi also interjected.

"Healthy competition is a good thing, we promote their cooperation, but it is not necessary to interfere with their competition, but we are afraid that we stand on a fair and fair position, coordinate the interests of both sides, I think in many specific projects, state-owned enterprises and private enterprises still have different target goals, such as state-owned enterprises can use their own advantages and capital advantages, more leading large projects, private enterprises as partners to cooperate with the intervention, and small and medium-sized projects, especially with the country and local cooperation projects, private enterprises can play their strengths and advantages, I think it can complement each other in this regard. ”

From the visit of the Secretary-General of the Ministry of Geology and Mineral Resources of Guinea, it has triggered the discussion and debate of the status of state-owned enterprises and private enterprises of the entire National Development and Reform Commission, and the matter is not just whether to invite representatives of private enterprises to participate in the visit of the Secretary-General of the Ministry of Geology and Mineral Resources of Guinea, but involves a deeper problem, that is, the attitude of the National Development and Reform Commission towards the increasing demand of private enterprises to enter the resource industry.

Zeng Quanjun did not make a clear statement on the key issues, he was a little dissatisfied with the fact that it was originally a not complicated issue but evolved into such a broad topic, and it was not appropriate to clarify the attitude towards some more sensitive issues, so he decisively stopped the topic.

"Well, I think Guodong's point of view is also very representative, now private enterprises have become an important part of our national economy, and the private economy has been criticized a lot for the so-called glass door phenomenon, thinking that the government administrative functional departments still maintain the old thinking, through some invisible clauses to restrict the private economy from entering many important industries, I don't agree with this point of view, but I also have to admit that this phenomenon does exist in some areas. Director Guodong proposed that representatives of private enterprises could be invited to participate in the forum, which I think is also a pioneering attempt, and it also shows that our NDRC does not have any bias in the main identity of economic development. ”

Zeng Quanjun weighed the pros and cons, decided to make a little attempt on this issue, the private economy for the development and Reform Commission of the attack on the Xu has always been endless, "on this issue he does not want to attract countless attacks, although today is only an internal meeting of the committee, but it is difficult to say whether today's discussion will be revealed to the outside world, once public opinion knows that the National Development and Reform Commission and the private enterprises are outside the boundary, even if it is just the simplest contact, it may be blown to the gods."

The year before last in the Tieben and Jianlong incident broke out at the same time, the state-owned steel enterprises are expanding their capacity vigorously, Baosteel, Wuhan Iron and Steel, Benxi Iron and Steel, Anshan Iron and Steel, Masteel, all of them are forging ahead, and almost every project has been approved without suspense, even foreign capital is like a mercury stumbling into China, Pohang, Arcelor, Nippon Steel, Tehao Krupp, BlueScope, have conquered the city in China, these projects have also been approved as a matter of course, but Tieben has become a typical example of point killing, so that some mainstream media are commenting, a door, inside and outside the door, some people sing and cry outside the door, some people sing and dance lightly in the door, ice and fire are two heavens, how cruel.

These remarks and opinions have put considerable pressure on the National Development and Reform Commission, and Zeng Quanjun has also released signals to explain on different occasions, but without exception they have been besieged by the media and economists, especially some elites who claim to be nationalists, and they frequently compare Tieben in the same time period with Australia's BlueScope Suzhou steel project, the former has been strangled by one gold medal after another, "so far there is no follow-up, while the latter's 1.7 billion project completes all the procedures in a week, and its efficiency is unimaginable." The tragic comparison of the results obtained by one land and one ocean cannot but make people feel a lot of emotion.

Zeng Quanjun's final conclusion is to set the tone for this very simple foreign affairs activity, and he can invite representative private enterprises in the industry to participate in this discussion together with Hualu and Minmetals to learn about the exploration and development projects that China and Guinea may cooperate with, of course, as for who can win the cooperation with Guinea in the future, that is another matter.

To be precise, this is a gesture, but it is such a gesture that is enough to make many people feel a different atmosphere.

Zhou Xin was immersed in an inexplicable euphoria almost all day, even if he knew that this might be purely a gesture, he didn't care.

It doesn't matter whether the project succeeds or not, the key is that the government functional departments have made such a seemingly inadvertent but significant change for Xinda and even the entire industry, private enterprises can get the opportunity to be with state-owned giants such as Hualu and Minmetals, even if it is just a formal equal opportunity, the inside may also be an invisible barrier, but this is a change after all, just by virtue of this, it is worth getting drunk.

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