671 A mess hidden under a glossy exterior

"Director Liu, Director Wang, this matter, perhaps, we should discuss it with the Shanghai Municipal Government, Director Yan agrees, and it cannot represent the consent of the Shanghai Municipal Government." Regarding the heated discussion between the two sides, Xiong Fengfeng, who has rarely expressed his opinions, put forward different opinions.

As for the request of the Ninth People's Court, the Shanghai Municipal Government will not agree to it at all.

If the entire design team is moved, there will be no point in the existence of a large aircraft factory.

Moreover, the Ninth Academy is building a large aircraft factory in Rongcheng, and no one does not know.

Of course, there will not be too many people who know, after all, it is under the jurisdiction of the military, and at the same time, it is also a secret unit, and it is difficult for ordinary people to enter that area to see the internal situation.

"The attitude of the Shanghai municipal government is indeed more important, and we will communicate with them. If the two sides do not agree on this, there is no need for everything else to continue. Moreover, if we can't reach an agreement, the project team of Yunshi is likely to be split. Wang Shunyi also felt that Liu Yijiu's change was too fast.

The Shanghai Planning Commission is not in a position to represent the attitude of the Shanghai municipal government officials.

At the same time, Shanghai's position in the central government is not bad, and it has been like this since the founding of the People's Republic of China, so the central government will certainly listen to the opinions of the Shanghai municipal government on these matters.

In the end, it is very likely that the central government will disembark in accordance with the recommendations of the Civil Aviation Administration, the design team will be split, and the excellent designers will be transferred to various aircraft design units, and the remaining personnel will be used to enrich the various units, and finally a group of people who are not very good will stay in the large aircraft factory and wait.

"Director Wang. You can go in this direction, the heads of the Shanghai Municipal Government have always attached great importance to the large aircraft project, and they don't want to see the big aircraft that we have worked hard for for so long will be dismounted like this...... "Yan Ruyun knows that Xiong Storm does not want to be under the jurisdiction of the Ninth Court. But the Shanghai Municipal Government really has no way to do this.

At this time, the local government has no money at all.

Moreover, even if the remaining three aircraft parts were assembled, there would still be a plan for further design improvements, and a series of problems would have to be scaled up.

The Shanghai Municipal Government would not have been able to come up with follow-up funds at all, otherwise he would not have agreed to these proposals of Liu Yijiu and others.

"That's fine. I think that's all for today's meeting. We should wait for the leaders of the Ministry of Aviation Industry and the Civil Aviation Administration to come here to have a more detailed and intuitive understanding of the entire factory and the project. Meantime. Make some contact with the Shanghai municipal government. Wang Shunyi feels that the attitude of the Shanghai municipal government and the central authorities is very important.

Until their attitude is clear, everything else is in vain.

"If they don't agree, we'll eat the whole technical team." This is Liu Yijiu's attitude.

"But the technical data and some equipment simply can't be moved with the people leaving. Let's talk to them. I'll talk about it when I can't talk about it. "Wang Shunyi doesn't want to do these things.

"The attitude of the General Administration of Civil Aviation and the Ministry of Aviation Industry. In fact, the least important thing is the decision of the Shanghai municipal government. They don't think about things from the same point of view as we do. Liu Yijiu also agrees with this.

They think about how to promote the industrial system of the country as a whole, not only for the defense of the country as a whole, but also for the convenience of their work.

But this is not the case for other government departments, and the first thing for government departments is to consider political performance!

If there is no gain for a long time, or even the appearance of political achievements, it is impossible for any official to stay in the same position for a long time, which makes them pursue to be able to see results in the short term. Make the results of their work visible to the entire hierarchy.

"Now we have to wait. Many of the assembly workshops here are manual. Basically, all the production lines have to be re-invested, and you are building a new factory in Rongcheng, which is a good step. After visiting the design institute and the assembly plant, the problems became even more apparent.

The management committee of the Ninth Academy is basically not optimistic about these equipment and production lines.

It is better to say that it is a production line, but it is better to say that it is a pure workshop.

Even if the Yun-10 project has been completely successful, it will not be easy to manufacture in large quantities.

"From the situation in the Shanghai Aircraft Factory, we can see the production of J-7 and J-8-2. It is no wonder that the country is still dominated by the strong five. "It's okay not to talk about this, but when it comes to this, Liu Yijiu has a headache.

In 62, the Air Force got a full set of technical drawings of the MiG-21 from the Soviet Union and began to imitate production, which lasted until the Sino-Vietnamese self-defense counterattack in 79, when Shen Fei and Rongcheng Aircraft Factory only produced 73 aircraft! The Air Force is also equipped with J-7 fighters of two aviation regiments.

After the outbreak of the Sino-Vietnamese War, the domestic production of Jian-7 was increased, and the number increased.

Among the 73 J-7s produced at the beginning, due to the poor material production and assembly process, the quality of the J-7 produced was unstable, the failure rate was high, and even the same materials were not interchangeable on different aircraft and could not be used. As a result, the flight cost and maintenance cost are high, and the logistics support is too difficult, and the Air Force has been reluctant to use the J-7, they would rather be equipped with more J-5 and rely on the number to counter the advanced fighters of the strong enemy.

If it weren't for the appearance of Liu Yijiu, the military high-level saw the benefits of the seven-specialized technical agreement in advance, and began to enforce it in the domestic military industrial system, so that the quality of parts was ensured, so that after the Sino-Vietnamese self-defense counterattack, the number of Jian-7 fighters produced by the Republic had a very gratifying result.

J-7 did not have a long-term fate, even in the 21st century, after the emergence of improved E and other models, the production quality of the domestic industrial system improved, and the production quality of J-7 stabilized.

Therefore, after having the J-10, J-20, and J-31, which are more advanced third-generation and fourth-generation aircraft, the Republic still has a large number of seventh-generation aircraft in service. Moreover, huge investments are being made in improvements.

It is also because of the insufficient production capacity of the J-10.

Even if it is a high-end and low-end match, it should not be a multi-role fighter with bombing functions and air combat capabilities like the J-7 to become a low-end configuration.

In the face of more advanced fighters, these are only light fighters of the second generation of fighters, and they can only be mobile targets in the air.

The cost is still very high.

"The problem is that if you want to improve this, you can't do much without a lot of money. The more you get to the back, the more money you need, the more huge it is, and it is likely that the hematopoietic function of our civilian units will not be able to keep up. For a country, such a huge system is very headaches. It's good for you, one person has to intervene in the land, sea and air...... "Xie Heping has been like a frosted eggplant these days.

There is not the slightest strength at all.

The No. 2 prototype of Yun 10 is now parked in the airport outside the assembly plant, with a huge fuselage and a bright appearance, so that people can't see that this huge aircraft is basically assembled by hand!

"There's no way around it. If we don't do it, in the end, when the country realizes that we have to have our own big plane, it will be too late to do it......"

Liu Yijiu didn't want to continue talking about it.

At first, he was mentally prepared, but after a thorough understanding, he realized that the reality was much worse than the worst he expected.

There was once information that every atomic bomb created by the republic before the XXI century, even with the same yield, had different powers. The accuracy of each strategic missile, even if the same model produced by the same unit, is not the same. He didn't believe it.

But now, he believed.

"The question is, how do you get started? I have to grab this mess from the Shanghai municipal government! If you don't want to have a lawsuit with the Civil Aviation Administration......" Wang Shunyi looked at Liu Yijiu with an unpleasant face, "If it were your father, he would never do these things." If I were you, I'd rather go to Nipudosan or Africa, at least without these constraints, and eventually export technology to the country with the same effect. ”

"Uncle Wang, it's really easy to start from scratch outside, and there won't be so many technical blockades. But there is one of the most critical problems, which is that we lack a large number of technical talents, how do we solve them? In China, there is a perfect industrial base, but also has a perfect talent training system, although it has been abandoned for many years, but the current situation, after the first batch of students enter the technical system, it will not take long to train, and there will be a steady supply of talents every year in the future......" Liu Yijiu asked Wang Shunyi very seriously.

"Okay, you kid don't go to the bull with Lao Wang, how good it is for us to stay in the mountains, we have to run out to find anger. At present, our little life is already very good......" Xie Heping saw that Liu Yijiu and Wang Shunyi had a dispute, and hurriedly persuaded them.

If these two guys get angry, don't even think about doing anything.

Wang Shunyi didn't want to stay in China anymore, he always felt that everything was restricted, and he wasted a lot of their time in the mountains, just because he was waiting for Liu Yijiu's growth.

Now Liu Yijiu's kid is very exciting in all aspects, which shows that Liu Suxue's arrangement has been effective, and they naturally hope to have fewer constraints and see how far Liu Yijiu can develop.

"Uncle Xie, we're not a top cow. This is the difficulty at hand. There is also one of the biggest problems, even if we solve the talent, there is no way to deal with it. That is, we need the country to be our backer, outside, everywhere, we are outsiders, but for the domestic difference, here is our roots, the country will always be our backing, we don't need to think that after we develop too advanced technology, it will eventually be snatched ......away by those powerful countries" (to be continued. )