It wasn't too late, Wang Zijun and Duan Zhongtan found a café to sit down.

Duan Zhongtan was a little surprised, Wang Zijun rarely accepts exclusive interviews with the media, this time he found Wang Zijun, and he just had the idea of chatting with Wang Zijun, but he didn't expect Wang Zijun to leave the venue of the music festival to talk to him in detail.

Duan Zhongtan glanced at Wang Zijun's bodyguard Li Jinghao and sat down at the adjacent table, turned his eyes to Wang Zijun, and said with a smile: "It turns out that the rumors are true, Mr. Wang, you really don't have any shelf." ”

Wang Zijun also smiled and said: "I heard that many people say that I put on a score and don't give face at all. ”

"An hour ago, I had this idea." Duan Zhongtan said, "In the past few years, our "Rolling Stone" magazine has made dozens of phone calls to interview Mr. Wang, but we have not contacted you once. ”

Wang Zijun said: "As far as I know, your "Rolling Stone" magazine focuses on introducing foreign music, what is the meaning of interviewing me? ”

"So you didn't give us interviews before because of that." Duan Zhongtan smiled bitterly, "I think Mr. Wang, you misunderstood." The purpose of our "Rolling Stone" magazine is to introduce the essence of Western music and make Taiwan. Most musicians understand the current trend and current situation of foreign music, and promote the progress of Chinese music. Shiyi's long skills are self-improving. ”

Wang Zijun stirred the sugar spoon and said with a smile: "Very great purpose." ”

Duan Zhongtan couldn't hear whether Wang Zijun was praising or ridiculing, and said: "No matter how hard Rolling Stone magazine tries, it is only theoretical, and it is not as good as Mr. Wang. ”

"Passing the prize." Wang Zijun said lightly, pointing in the direction of the baseball stadium and asking, "What do you think of this music festival?" ”

Duan Zhongtan could faintly hear the noisy shouts in the baseball stadium in his ears, put away his smile and said solemnly: "Tonight's Taipei Music Festival is actually the current stage. A microcosm of the music scene. ”

"Oh, please advise." Wang Zijun was a little interested. The same question was asked to Hong Xiaoqiao, she just despised Lee Teng-hui and the Taipei government for relying on this circle of money and political achievements, and Duan Zhongtan suddenly raised the problem to the entire Taiwan. b. The height of music.

Duan Zhong Tan said: "The current Taiwan. The biggest feature of bend music is that it comes from the control of the authorities. Just like this music festival, who can enter the venue and what songs can be sung, all the information bureaus have the final say. Luo Dayou's song "Lukang Town" is definitely a temporary drop, otherwise he wouldn't even have the opportunity to go on stage. ”

Wang Zijun smiled knowingly, this Luo Dayou is obviously talented, but he has only written a few theme songs for a few movies in recent years. The biggest reason for this is that the lyrics he wrote are always required to be revised by the song review team. Even his debut novel "Shining Days", such an inspirational song, was forced to change the lyrics.

This time, Luo Dayou sang "Lukang Town" at the Taipei Music Festival, which is probably also a test of the attitude of the authorities.

Duan Zhongtan continued: "Secondly, the freedom of creation is suppressed by the record market. In Taiwan. b, most of the singers with creative power can only sing in folk song restaurants, nightclubs, and even in these places, the scale is slightly larger, and there are acquaintances who go in to sing. Just like tonight's music festival, those little singers can only be on a small stage, all the equipment is the lowest, and the audience is also the least......"

Wang Zijun interjected: "It's like this all over the world, music is just a commoditization. What does the current state of music have to do with it? ”

Duan Zhong Tan said: "But this situation has suppressed Taiwan. b. Music's ability to be original. Now Taiwan. The phenomenon of seniority in the music scene is very serious, and some old-timers in the music scene not only do not bring newcomers, but instead swallow the creative achievements of the younger generations and turn them into their own things. ”

Wang Zijun said: "You are a bit alarmist. ”

"No," Duan Zhongtan said, "Mr. Wang, you are standing on this stage. b. At the top of music, you will always see the struggles of the musicians at the bottom. Platform. The most serious problems of music are not limited to these, but to rest on their laurels. ”…,

"What do you mean by that?" Wang Zijun asked.

Duan Zhongtan said: "Mr. Wang, you are my most respected platform. b. Musicians. It's not how many sales your record has, it's that you dare to be the first to stand up and be the first to do it. b. Own pop. Whether it's modern folk songs or Chinese rock, you're all for the stage. b. Music has opened a brand new door for Taiwan. b. Music unveiled a piece of the sky. ”

Wang Zijun smiled: "You're complimenting me, right?" ”

"I'm telling the truth." Duan Zhongtan said, "Before you, there were many young people who were trying to get rid of that old-fashioned music and sing music that was in line with the thinking of our new generation. But there is no road ahead, they are each looking for a direction, and your success shows them a way. Like Liu Jiachang, who just hid in the United States, he is just a timid person with musical talent in my eyes. In addition to supporting a few newcomers over the years, most of them are copying the same music to make money. b. The development of music has hardly contributed much. And you are different, you can see from each of your records that you have been seeking new changes and striving for new breakthroughs, especially the album "East Wind Breaks", which simply explored the possibility of another direction of Chinese music, but unfortunately it was finally blocked by the authorities. I think that Mr. Wang has been lazy to release records in the past two years, and I am afraid that he has also been hit by the ban of "East Wind Break". ”

Wang Zijun listened to Duan Zhongtan's words, and almost squirted out a mouthful of coffee, he has not released records in the past two years, because he can't find time to be good, and he is actually understood so noblely.

Duan Zhongtan originally came to give Wang Zijun an exclusive interview today, but he didn't expect to talk about music, and he said it more often, and Wang Zijun said it less.

However, since the topic was opened, Duan Zhongtan didn't think about it, he let out a sigh and said, "Now the stage. There are three major record companies in the bay, Haishan, Golin and Lige. Of the three record labels, Lige Records, which is dominated by old-fashioned love songs and old folk songs, has inevitably declined; And Golin Records, the youngest and most energetic among the three companies, has a very advanced star training mechanism. It's a pity that it's just a star-making machine, in order to avoid risks, it can only follow the existing market environment and not want to forge ahead, and most of its creative singers can't show their abilities. At the end of the day, Kolin Records is nothing more than a company that uses music as a money-making tool, and its sole purpose is to enter the music industry to make money. Haishan Records is similar to Goling, and the star-making function is very powerful, but there is one thing that is better than Golin, that is, the management is more humane and dares to try new ideas. However, Haishan is too old, and he only dares to touch it little by little when he tries new music, and he doesn't dare to let go of his hands and feet to do it. Of course, there is an outlier in Haishan Records, and that is you, which is one of the reasons why Haishan stands tall and grows bigger and bigger. ”

Wang Zijun listened to his high-minded talk and asked with a smile: "If you had a record company, what would you do?" ”

Duan Zhongtan completely regarded Wang Zijun as a colleague with the same musical pursuits as himself, and said passionately: "If I had a record company, then I would build this company into a music platform, bringing together those who have unique ideas and like-minded partners for music, and opening a new era of music." ”

"Hehe, great idea." Wang Zijun said with a smile.

Hearing Wang Zijun's laughter, Duan Zhong Tan came out of his passion and said, "I'm sorry, I'm out of shape." ”

"No," Wang Zijun said, "I like people who have ideas." If Mr. Duan wants to start a record company, I can solve the financial problem for you, and I can also provide some personnel and channel help. ”

"Oh?" Duan Zhongtan quickly calmed down, he was already almost 30 years old, and he had been in society for ten years, so he naturally knew that there was no free lunch in the world. …,

Wang Zijun said: "As Mr. Duan said, Haishan Records is too old and timid. For example, Luo Dayou's "Lukang Town" tonight, even if the authorities don't ban it, Haishan Records still won't make this song, even if I try to persuade Zheng Zhenkun, it's useless. Wang Zijun pointed to the baseball field, "If Mr. Duan is interested in opening a record company, he can pay more attention to the music festival these days, maybe he will find many talents, and they can become the company's first batch of artists." ”

Duan Zhongtan has a lot of thoughts, he and his eldest brother have been working on "Rolling Stone" magazine for three years, and they are becoming more and more dissatisfied with being just an observer and discussant, and gradually have the idea of entering the game. The reason why I didn't do it was mainly because of the problems of funds and channels, and the constraints from the government's song policy. And now, as long as Wang Zijun comes in to cooperate, then funds and channels are not a problem. In the end, there is only a policy, and if the song policy is not relaxed, some songs can never be sung.

"How? Interested? Wang Zijun asked.

Duan Zhongtan wanted to go back and discuss it with his eldest brother Duan Zhongyi, but he was still ready to test Wang Zijun first, and asked, "What kind of cooperation method is Mr. Wang going to have?" ”

Wang Zijun said: "I am wholly owned to form a record company. You and Mr. Duan Zhongyi took a stake in Rolling Stone magazine, which is known as an ancillary publication of the new Rolling Stone Records. You and Mr. Duan Zhongyi share 40% of the shares of Rolling Stone Records, and how the 40% shares will be distributed is your own business. The company's distribution channel can first borrow the channel of Haishan Records. After the company was founded, I was not involved in the management, but I had veto power over some of the company's decisions. How is it? ”

Duan Zhongtan knocked on the table for a while, and quickly calculated the gains and losses in his head. His impassioned rhetoric earlier was one thing, and if he really wanted to set up a company, it was another thing, and he had to think about it carefully.

"Mr. Wang, how much are you going to invest?" Duan Zhongtan asked.

Wang Zijun said: "How about 30 million Taiwan dollars? ”

Of course, 30 million Taiwan dollars is more than enough to be a record production company, and a large part of this money is actually used to buy "Rolling Stone" magazine.

40% of 30 million is 12 million, which is enough money to buy "Rolling Stone" magazine, even if he doesn't do a record company, Duan Zhongtan has to make money.

Duan Zhong Tan was moved, but there was a trace of doubt in his heart - Wang Zijun was giving money for nothing! Is there such a good thing in the world?.