If you follow the plan proposed by Yang Hui this time to make magic changes to the Mi-17, there is no doubt that you can get a ten-ton general-purpose helicopter with excellent performance, or the maximum take-off weight of twelve tons is no problem, after all, when the Mi-17 helicopter was designed, it was already half a circle larger than the Black Hawk.

Therefore, it is indeed a little inappropriate to compare these two helicopters directly, but because the work of these two aircraft in the service countries and the mission positioning are similar, these two helicopters will be compared, but there is still a big difference between the two.

But will the army aviation really agree to introduce and produce this aircraft domestically? In fact, the situation is not necessarily so, in fact, this aircraft already has an opponent in China, and this opponent is also one step ahead of the market.

"If I'm not mistaken, the Z-8 helicopter of your Changfei and 602 Design Institute seems to be about the same as the Mi-17 in tonnage and size, and you have just made the Z-8 eyebrow, and now you are ready to give up this aircraft? I remember that you just gave up the Z-11 armed reconnaissance helicopter project before, are you preparing for a full clearance? ”

It's good to look at now, including Yang Hui, and all of the previous help for the Mi-17 localization project are speechless, and indeed this Z-8 helicopter and Mi-17 have a lot of overlapping aspects. As mentioned earlier, this Mi-17 is half a circle of the Black Hawk helicopter in size and tonnage, and surpassing the Black Hawk helicopter naturally means that a large number of indicators of this aircraft coincide with the straight 8.

It's really embarrassing to bring back such a project, which may be another reason why the last republic did not introduce Mi-17 and localize it.

Yang Hui just said the improvement plan of the Mi 17, if you change your words immediately now, it is indeed a little inappropriate, although Yang Hui himself knows in his heart that this is a duplicate construction. He also signaled Chief Designer Zhu on the side to take over this conversation, at least when he had not yet launched the Z-11 project, Chief Designer Zhu was also a deputy chief engineer of the Z-8 helicopter project, and he must know a lot.

I know a lot, and I have experienced the whole project, which also means that some of the situation of this helicopter is still relatively clear.

Recalling some previous events, Chief Designer Zhu only then had some complaints: "直8∵□dǐng∵□diǎn∵□ Xiao∵□ said, .◆.↗os_(); The maximum take-off weight of the helicopter of 13 tons is indeed not much different from the maximum take-off weight of the Mi-17 helicopter of 12 tons, but this helicopter is now only supported by a small amount of the Navy, and because it was originally designed to meet the needs of France, it is somewhat contradictory to the needs of our country, so the Navy's procurement is only a few transport helicopter orders, and this is far from being able to meet the minimum needs of the sustainable development of the Z-8 project. ”

It must be said that the Navy's demand for the Z-8 helicopter is really not much, plus a batch of original Super Wasp helicopters were imported from France at the beginning, so the Navy's orders are even less pitiful, and the destroyer has a Z-9 helicopter that can be barely used, and the Navy really does not have much demand for the Z-8.

This also causes the Z-8 helicopter to look like it can be produced, but it is not valued in all aspects, this is because it is not enough to meet the national conditions of the republic, and the final director zhì At this time, the Z-8 helicopter looks reluctant, but when it comes to procurement, it is not very popular.

Of course, the biggest reason for this is actually that the straight 8 aircraft has not been targeted for magic changes, if the straight 8 is really after a magic change, Yang Hui believes that this aircraft can still have a very good development space, this diǎn from the previous face of the straight 18 project, is completely fine.

"There are very few orders for the Z-8 aircraft, but I've heard of this, and it seems that the priority development of this aircraft is relatively low, which is really a problem. Whether an aircraft is excellent or not ultimately depends on the number of orders for the aircraft, so, tell me how many orders do you have for the Z-8 aircraft now? ”

There is no need to keep it secret, and he directly made it public: "There are less than 20 planes, and we only have some transport orders from the navy, which is not enough for us to maintain the operation of the production line and be able to make a profit for the development and improvement of the Z-8 aircraft." That's why we need to have an aircraft that can have guaranteed orders, and since it is a fact that the country is now introducing a large number of Mi-17s, then we can only accept this fact and try to get some benefits in the Mi-17 project, such as assembly and production. ”

It is indeed too much to describe it as a poor ambition, but this is the case, Changfei can give up the Z-11 armed reconnaissance helicopter project, but the company's large number of workers and technicians have to wait for the project to be cooked, this must not be sloppy.

It was the first time I knew that the orders for this aircraft could be so small, and for a time even the army aviation was embarrassed

Maybe you can think about it carefully, Changfei can take the initiative to give up the Zhi 11 project for the sake of the overall situation, but the army can't let such a unit shed blood and tears, and it still needs support at a critical moment.

"So, you're starting to figure out how to bring back the Mi-17 helicopter production line? I saw the army's massive purchase of Mi-17 helicopters this time, and I think we have fully switched to the Mi-17, right? “

Hearing this, several people seemed to feel something unusual, and they were ready to do so in this situation

"Rest assured, the introduction of the Mi-17 helicopter is only a stopgap measure, the main thing is that we fancy the price of this aircraft is cheap, reliable, and half of the payment can be offset by China's light industry products, so we are willing to introduce this aircraft, but this does not mean that we will give up the helicopter route that has been set, and go to re-match the production of Mi-17, so it is absolutely impossible to want the project of domestic Mi-17 helicopter, you will die of this heart!"

Such a simple sentence, that is also directly hit the depths of everyone's hearts, it seems that the introduction and production of Mi-17 series helicopters is impossible, and the Z-8 is now such a dead look, can it only continue to develop super **********?

In loneliness, I can only leave one sentence: "We understand, then"

"Don't worry, we just said that we will not introduce Mi-17 helicopters, but it does not mean that we do not plan to solve the problem of domestic production of helicopters of this level, according to the current situation, the helicopter that can replace the Mi-17 in the future can only be your Zhi-8 at present. Therefore, our army aviation is willing to contact the navy and air force to discuss various suggestions for improving the Z-8 aircraft, and perhaps after some thorough improvements, the Z-8 may be able to meet the needs of the country.

Contact the three armed forces of the army and navy to discuss the improvement plan of the Z-8?

This doesn't seem to have happened in the previous one.,It's just a small makeover after the Navy model came out.,And then the Army Aviation symbolically purchased a few planes.,Now this is to prepare for a large-scale magic change to the Z-8 after discussion? (To be continued.) )