Lance narrowed his eyes slightly, and looked carefully at Joel, who was sitting in his chair.

Joel straightened his waist and raised his right hand high, like a straight little poplar, and the eyes hidden behind a curly hair carried undeniable authority and firmness, and it could be seen that even if Lance did not name him, he would definitely not give up lightly. This is a very interesting thing, because in the previous conversation, Lance could sense Joel's rejection of him, so is Joel planning to come over and pick on him now?

Lance lifted his chin slightly, agreeing to Joel's request to ask a question, and then saw Joel slowly stand up, staring at Lance motionlessly, as if the focus shifted slightly, and Lance would immediately flee without a trace. The two of them confronted each other like this, staring intently, not even blinking their eyes, like a childish game of a child competing to see who would blink first.

The audience also noticed the sparks one after another, and almost everyone recognized that the Joel Coen brothers' position in Sundance was indeed unbeatable, and they were immediately full of anticipation for the exchange of ideas between Joel and Lance, and the scene not only did not become lively, but became quieter and tighter, and the feeling of suffocation that was about to break out was slowly spreading.

In the end, Joel moved first, he took the microphone from the staff, and said in a deep voice, "Excuse me, does the ending of the movie have any meaning?" Why was it only Redfur who was arrested, and both Shuai Ned and Little Overlord died? And Shuained was killed by Otto, and the little overlord was killed by the little ghost, does this imply a sad fate? ”

Lance barely had time to think, and directly explained endlessly, "These are three different branches, the red hair represents the primordial dark forces, they are in a corner, and they are conservative; The Little Overlord represents the emerging forces of darkness, who are lawless and ambitious; Shuained represents the forces that are pushed into the abyss after the failure of resistance, like Lucifer who fell from light to darkness. ”

The succinct but clear explanation, on the surface, does not seem to answer Joel's question positively, but it provokes more thought.

The red-haired being replaced by the little overlord is a collision between the new forces and the old forces, and the little overlord finally died tragically at the hands of a newer generation of forces, but the change of times has inherited the criminal tradition in a ridiculous way; Shuai Ned joins a gang for revenge, but dies at the hands of another avenger, and the vicious cycle of tooth for tooth and eye for eye never ends.

Joel didn't pause, and just raised his voice and said, "So, this is an irresistible fate!" This is an affirmative, not an interrogative. So Joel didn't give Lance an answer, and continued directly, "Excuse me, does the camera scene of the movie have any meaning?" In the whole film, there are two particularly noteworthy details, the first is the use of composition, many times the background picture is infinitely wide, and even gives people a sense of boundlessness, but the characters occupy most of the theme of the picture, which makes people feel like a cage, especially for the vast background picture, the sense of contradiction is more and more obvious; The second is the use of color tones, from warm tones to cool tones, and then let the warm colors permeate the cool tones, this contrasting shooting technique seems a bit fragmented, as if a fictional story has suddenly been added to the documentary. Does this mean anything? ”

Lance didn't interrupt Joel, even though he had the chance, but he listened carefully to all Joel's tellings before he spoke, "The second question is simple, this sense of separation is exactly what I want to convey, for the middle class living in the United States, the City of God is a different world entirely, even for most of the residents of Rio de Janeiro, a region that has nothing to do with them. But this is not the case, it is real, like a parallel two-dimensional space, and the current situation in this area is inextricably affecting the real world. ”

All the audience at the scene fell into silence, unable to extricate themselves from the back and forth between Lance and Joel, completely moved by the collision of ideas between the two people, and began to think deeply.

"Going back to the first question, in fact, this feeling of contradiction is the same as the sense of separation. For the young three heroes, for the little overlord, the city of God is their world, this world is infinite, as if they can stand at the top of the world at any time; But in fact, we all know that this is a delusion. The City of God is only the tip of the iceberg of this world, but they will never get a glimpse of the outside world, because they have been trapped here since the beginning. Obviously, many people ignore the use of the camera in the film, because the sharp and fast editing almost steals all the limelight, but now from the dialogue between Lance and Joel, there is a deeper understanding of the movie.

Before Lance's words fell, Joel's voice rang out again, barely giving the rest of the audience a breathing room, pushing the game of ideas forward, "Well, this is also a kind of fate!" An irresistible fate! Is the movie suggesting that the City of God is a besieged city from which there is no escape, and all those born here will follow a vicious circle of fateful path, with no hope in sight. Is such desperation a satire of the city of God, or a reflection of real life? From God's point of view, does the overemphasis on the sense of fate weaken the philosophical thinking and value reflection of the whole movie? ”

"Yes, the core idea of this film is a sense of irreversible fatalism; No, this approach doesn't diminish the core idea of the whole film. Lance's answer was like a solid concrete wall, and the spark that burst out made all the audience in the screening room hold their breath, and the excitement was no less than the film itself.

"Before I explain this, I want to ask a rhetorical question, does anyone hate Xiaobawang? Or rather, when the little overlord was brutally killing, he felt disgusted, resistant, and repulsed......" Lance looked around the audience, and no one raised their hands, which made Lance smile and look at Joel again, "The little overlord is a complete villain, there is no room for explanation, but why no one hates him, because each of us knows that this is fate." For the people who lived in the city of God, in the sixties, in that impetuous environment, in fact, they had no choice at all, and behind this helplessness was the sorrow and sorrow of the whole era. The little overlord is just an epiphany in the city of God, fleeting, and after him, there will be the Little Devil Gang, and there will be even younger giants...... The fate of the City of God will not change, and the only choice for people is to leave, or to survive, or to take up the weapons in their hands. ”

"It's not just Little Overlord, but also Benny, and Handsome Ned, and Red Hair, and the Young Three, and Steak, and Otto...... No one will remember the process of the fall and the way it fell, only fate, a fate that no one can get rid of. Lance's voice plunged the scene into a deathly silence, and the desolate and mournful feelings began to spread slowly.

Despair, that fatalistic despair is like a black hole, swallowing up the vitality of everyone on the scene. Everyone in the story of "City of God" is haunted by despair, and as the story progresses, that despair becomes more and more turbulent, and finally becomes a bottomless abyss, cold and bloody that consumes all hope in this world, as if there is not even a glimmer of light.

"So, Cannon is the only hope in the City of God, right?" Joel spoke again, but this time it didn't have the aggressive momentum of before, but asked in a questioning voice.

Lance paused slightly, but the tense atmosphere between the two of them not only did not buffer, but became more and more suffocating because of this silence, "I want to ask, what is it that allowed Ah Cannon to survive, or more profoundly, let him get out of the City of God?" Does anyone want to have an opinion? ”

Joel opened his mouth, but finally chose to remain silent, giving up the opportunity to the others.

"Brave! He has the courage that no one else has! "Dreams, when Ah Mao was killed, he saw the cameraman and thus had dreams." "The experience of being bullied since he was a child kept him away from the little bully, and when he was forced to be cornered, he chose to leave." "Family, father's guidance is crucial!" "A lesson from Dumb."

Voices came and went in the corner of the screening room, and even Ethan raised his voice to join in the fun, "Education, the education he received since childhood has given him a wider horizon!" ”

Lance turned his head to look at Alexander, who was standing beside him, and the little guy seemed to understand the meaning of this look, remembering the discussion between him and Lance at the beginning, and a shy smile appeared on his face.

"I think that's what the whole movie left behind." Lance finally interrupted everyone's various speculations, raised his hand and pointed to the big screen behind him, "This is a world of despair, this is a world that cannot get rid of the entanglement of fate, this is a world that cannot see the sunshine of tomorrow at all." How, then, should those souls trapped in the City of God break free? Ah Pao is not a hero, Shuai Ned is, Ah Pao is too cowardly, too cowardly, he can't even hold a gun steadily, but why did Ah Pao leave the City of God, not anyone else. That's what I was hoping to find after this film. ”

Lance didn't give his own answer, but answered Joel's question mark with a question mark, and everyone in the audience fell into deep thought again, including Joel.

Joel looked deeply at Lance, then picked up the microphone and said, "Great work, great work!" Joel then nodded his chin at Lance and sat back down. This was a result that Lance did not expect.

However, Lance didn't have time to continue to think deeply, and the next question was thrown again, which made Lance have to listen carefully, "Excuse me, you just mentioned that the City of God is another world for many people, but this world is quietly affecting our real world, how does this manifest itself?" ”

"Cannon."