Chapter 874: Controversy
The free time for the morning passed quickly, and after lunch, it was time for group discussions. Pen | fun | pavilion www. ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ γ ο½ο½ο½ο½
The original arrangement was to group everyone according to the four types of cultural relics, and then according to their respective specialties, and a day and a half was enough for everyone to study everything thoroughly.
But when they were grouped, several deans in charge of the organization found that those appraisers who were already good at two or three or three and belonged to cross-border players were just that, and even those who were originally only good at one item and not calligraphy and painting came to the calligraphy and painting group one after another!
"What to do? The other groups don't have many cultural relics, so they all run the calligraphy and painting group......"
"What else can I do? Adjust it.,It's also classified by antiques.,But it's not discussed at the same time.,Give calligraphy and painting this afternoon.,The others are just right.,Tonight.γTomorrow morning.γThree tomorrow afternoon.,The dinner is over in the evening.γ β
"That's fine, after all, everyone is staring at the old paintings that came out of the top box. Well, that's what to do in the future, and those who are not interested in a certain type can take a break......"
In a few words, the new plan was discussed, and the topic of the afternoon was changed from four groups to four groups at the same time, and the calligraphy and painting were discussed together.
"Since it's a discussion, someone definitely needs to speak, I, Cui Jianguo, am not talented, and I am willing to be this brick that throws bricks and leads the way!"
Before anyone in the room could sit down, a gray-haired old gentleman stood up and asked to speak.
"Huh? Lao Cui, your major is not calligraphy and painting, if you let this shot go, where will the faces of our people be placed? Come down, let me be the first to speak, I'm not vomiting and unhappy for a long time! β
Cui Jianguo glanced at the person who spoke, acquaintance! He smiled and said, "Don't worry, I won't rob your old Qi of your speech, what I'm going to say is the top box!" β
Cui Jianguo's words made the scene quiet, yes, those controversial works were taken out of the top box, if you can start with the top box first, analyze the age of the painting was collected, it is indeed a good idea.
Some people at the bottom had already thought of this idea, and some people didn't expect it, but no matter what, the scene was quiet, and they all wanted to hear what Cui Jianguo, an expert in ancient furniture, had to say.
In a corner of the venue, John Caroo sighed softly, this top box was delivered to Li Yi by himself! How much was it sold for at the time? Tens or millions of dollars?
"Hehe, anyway, you don't lack that little money, listen carefully, there are things that have been in your hands for decades, but you don't know gold and jade!"
I didn't expect Arnott to use the Chinese slang well!
"This top box, the full name should be called Ming Hongzhi Jin Yun Dragon Pattern Vermilion Lacquer Top Box, in my opinion, it is indeed a genuine product. I won't say much about how to judge, and I guess everyone is not interested in listening to what I have to say here, so I'll get straight to the point! β
Cui Jianguo's words were very concise, and the target was directly aimed at the mezzanine of the top box.
"I'm going to tell you what I think of the mezzanine inside the lid of the cupola. Judging from the texture, color, smell, pulp and other aspects of the sandwich board, I think that this board is also an old object, and the age should be about the same as the age of the production of the top box! In other words, those six ancient paintings were hidden in this box as soon as they were made! β
Before the words fell, the scene remembered a buzzing voice, Cui Jianguo's words were too heavy! Because even if we discuss those works later, we will only discuss them one by one. And his conclusion included all six paintings!
If there is no problem with his judgment, wouldn't it have been proved that even those six paintings are imitations, and they are also imitations before Emperor Hongzhi of the Ming Dynasty!
Hongzhi was the ninth emperor of the Ming Dynasty and reigned from 1488 to 1505. In other words, even if those six works are all imitations, they are also imitations from more than 600 years ago, which are also precious!
Moreover, Lao Cui's words also have a very obvious hidden meaning, that is, in that era, what could be so treasured and hidden by a certain figure in the royal family could never have been imitated just now. In other words, the age of these six paintings has to be pushed back at least a few tens or hundreds of years to say in the past!
In this way, what is the difference between directly saying that Li Yi's works are real?
Of course, there is one of the biggest loopholes in this matter, that is, those paintings may not have been taken out of this mezzanine, and there are too many ways to fake them when it comes to video.
But that video was not released by Li Yi, but by Zhong Haoqing and Hu Jinquan. If you want to question the authenticity of the video, you are questioning the character of these two people plus Li Yi, and this feud is a bit big!
So a few old guys at the scene who were going to grab the painting and question it were a little confused for a while, they didn't expect Li Yi to be waiting for them here! Let's not talk about who the baby is, let's talk about the baby's fucking age first, which naturally proves that this baby is also an old guy!
Li Yi was also a little surprised, although he had long thought that the top box was definitely a strong evidence to prove the authenticity of the six works, but he didn't ask for help? Why did someone give him such a big gift package as soon as he came up? This time, if you want to discuss the worthlessness of paintings, you must first refute the judgment of this old Mr. Cui, this situation is really too favorable for him!
Could it be the arrangement of several masters? Sure enough, the ginger is still old and spicy!
He thought about it silently, the ones who danced the most were the so-called experts in calligraphy and painting, and none of them were proficient in ancient furniture and miscellaneous, so he couldn't help but laugh slightly, what else do you say now?
"Hehe, Cui Lao hit the vital point of several of them in one fell swoop, let's see what else they can say." Tan Moxuan beside him smiled, looking like he was waiting to see a good show.
He had never doubted the authenticity of these works before, although there were many problems with the inheritance and payment of these works, but who was Li Yi? Ever since he knew this guy, he hasn't missed it!
What's more, there is also Zhong Haoqing behind his back to support him, it is said that the god-like old man of the Zhong family has personally palmed these paintings, and he is full of praise!
Picking thorns on this, I really don't know if it's because I've eaten too much, or if I'm idle for nothing!
After discussing for a while, no one questioned Cui Jianguo's conclusion, but several experts who studied ancient furniture spoke one after another to support Cui Jianguo. There are two experts whose speeches are even more radical than Cui Jianguo's, and in their speeches, this kind of specification, this style, and such a delicate and beautiful top box, even in that era, is not something that ordinary palace nobles can have!
None of the people present were stupid, but they were all human spirits, and they could hear the hidden meaning behind these two speeches at once.
Since this kind of high-specification top box can be consumed, then the strength of people in the identification of ancient calligraphy and painting will definitely not be too weak. In other words, the probability that all six of them are genuine is far greater than the possibility that there are fakes hidden in them! Even, even if it is a fake, it must be a fake with extremely high collection value, and it may even be more precious than some famous calligraphy and paintings of the Ming and Song dynasties!
For a while, everyone felt a little pity for the guys who had attacked Li Yi, because some people had vaguely guessed the purpose of this exchange meeting.
If you want to question the problem with the painting taken out of the top box, you must refute the current identification of the interlayer of the top box, otherwise it will be too passive.
Judging from the current situation, there should be nothing to question about the judgment of this top box. In other words, before the discussion of the work began, Li Yi was already in an invincible position!
"Hehe, since Lao Cui and these old guys have already said so much, as professional calligraphy and painting appraisers, we don't speak anymore, won't they let a few laymen rob them of the limelight? But before I speak, I still have to thank Lao Cui and them, I was still a little apprehensive in my heart, what if I hit the eye? β
Just when everyone was talking, Liu Mingxin stood up from his seat and attracted everyone's attention with a few words.
"Okay, it's okay now, since this top box is so old, then I can even look at these paintings! Why? To put it mildly, Director Li, Director Mo, don't blame, your collections, even if they are fakes, are priceless! β
Hearing this, I remembered a few chuckles at the scene, and sure enough, ginger is still old and spicy, I admit that your things are precious, but there are also very precious things in fakes.
Therefore, the preciousness cannot be equated with the real painting!
"Next, I'll talk about Wei Xian's "Spring River Fishing Picture", everyone should know this painting, and it was confirmed that it had been lost. And the reason why this painting is so famous is mainly because of the two poems of Li Houzhu, but in the "Xuanhe Painting", 25 works of Wei Xian are recorded, but there is no such one. In addition, I have carefully studied the two authentic paintings of Wei Xian in the collection of the Antique Museum and the Shanghai Museum, and there seem to be many differences with the brushwork used in the "Spring River Fishing Map" in the Zangzhen Museum......
As soon as he finished speaking, someone immediately expressed his objections, and it was the experts of the Palace Museum who spoke.
"First of all, I don't know where Mr. Li carefully studied Wei Xian's "Gao Shi Tu", because this collection of our institute has never been appraised and studied by someone in private. Secondly, I also have different thoughts about what Mr. Li said about the many differences in the brushwork used in the two paintings. As we all know, a painter ...... at different stages of life"
Since then, the controversy has begun, and then, in addition to a few experts who have questioned Li Yi on the Internet and in newspapers, some other experts have expressed their opinions.
The statements of these experts are not one-sided in favor of one side or the other, but most of them affirm or question the authenticity of the painting from the perspective of their own observations. And slowly, the topic began to spread uncontrollably to several other works, and even the two works taken out by the Forbidden City and the National Museum were swept into the battle circle.
"Okay, it's almost time, let's pause for a moment, and I'll say a few words."
The discussion lasted for four hours, and even during the break, some people stayed in the conference room to continue arguing. Look at the delay any longer, dinner will be delayed, and Director Ding of the National Museum has to stand up to make a final statement.
"Just now, our staff counted 489 experts present, and a total of 182 spoke publicly. Among them, more than 70% of the 10 ancient paintings and calligraphy works on display are authentic, and 132 of them are considered authentic. In addition, there are two works of Wei Xian's "Spring River Fishing Map" and Zhan Ziqian's "Spring Tour" provided by the Zangzhen Museum, and a total of 12 experts have questioned the following aspects......
Director Ding had consulted Li Yi before speaking, to see if he needed to leave some time to refute these people's remarks, but after Li Yi thanked him for his kindness, he still refused.
It's not that he has nothing to say, but with the help of the museum staff, he has found some information about these works these days. Although none of the materials are conclusive, and it may not prove that these works must be genuine, Li Yi is really not interested in arguing with them here, because these so-called experts led by Liu Mingxin are simply telling lies with a clear conscience!
Because just before the opening of the exchange meeting, Wang Haoqing told him that Minister Liu finally couldn't help but do it, hinting that the Discipline Inspection Commission of the Ministry of Culture was the director and secretary of a provincial museum. However, in the process of investigation, the curator said the main reason behind Liu Mingxin's targeting of Li Yi.
Over the years, Liu Mingxin has colluded deeply with some international cultural relics dealers, helping them use various methods to export some domestic cultural relics abroad, repackage them and then sell them back to China at a high price!
The reason why this curator was shuanggui was related to the fact that some precious cultural relics in their museum were stolen and resold for resale, but he and Liu Mingxin were not all the way.
Liu Mingxin is more likely to use his identity as an expert to participate in some treasure appreciation TV programs and treasure appreciation activities of non-governmental organizations, and then describe the collections of collectors who bring treasures to experts for appraisal as fakes or deliberately depress their value, and then organize people to buy them privately, so as to make huge profits!
What he has been eyeing recently is the collection in Li Yi's hand! Because at that time, the news that Li Yi was going to set up a museum had not yet spread!
As for why he worked so hard later, it is said that this guy had already received the deposit from those cultural relics dealers in advance!
"At present, this matter is still in the investigation stage, and the police mean that it is best to wipe out the smuggling group that connected with him, so I am afraid that you will have to endure for a while."
This is Wang Haoqing's original words, do you say that Li Yi is still guilty of being angry with a grasshopper who is about to die? Can you do it?
After his concluding remarks, Director Ding told everyone that after the dinner, the hotel's general meeting would be open to everyone, and discussions about porcelain would be held there. As a result, this opinion has been opposed by many people, what does it mean? These calligraphy and paintings have not yet been debated and come to a conclusion, so it is the turn of porcelain?
500 experts, this exchange meeting is a gathering of as many as 500 experts from all over the country, even if it can't represent all the appraisers, but it should be okay to represent more than half of them, right?
But the result? As a result, these people have been noisy for a long time, and they can't even identify the authenticity of a few paintings, which is too slap in the face!
"No, there has to be a result! If one afternoon is not enough, add the evening, and if the evening is not enough, we will discuss it tomorrow! β
The collective of appraisers is not a harmonious group, on the contrary, many people still have some problems with each other for various reasons! This time, through the controversy of these works, the old and new hatreds have come together! How can it be so easy to stop fighting?
Seeing that the opposition was too loud, Director Ding urgently consulted with several other leaders, and finally announced the decision of the organizing committee.
In the evening, the discussion about porcelain will continue as usual, but there will be an additional conference room in the hotel, and if you are still interested in the discussion of calligraphy and painting, you can continue the discussion in the newly opened conference room!
Aren't you going to discuss calligraphy and painting? Are they all experts in calligraphy and painting? Anyway, it's not the main force to discuss porcelain, so let's just find a place for you alone and play by yourself!
The arrangements for the conference have already been adjusted on an ad hoc basis, and if they were to change again, wouldn't it seem that the organizers were too incompetent?
Moreover, he pondered, once the porcelain hall began, after a large part of the people were diverted, the discussion about these calligraphy and paintings would probably not continue.
As for what someone said just now that they didn't draw conclusions and didn't have face, it's just a joke! What does it mean to be inconclusive? There are 500 experts, of which no more than 200 are proficient in calligraphy and painting appraisal, and 182 people just express their opinions on the spot. And among these people, 132 people think that the work is okay, accounting for more than 72.5%, which is not called an absolute majority?
As for those old stubborns who resolutely refuse to admit that calligraphy and painting are true, either they are selling their reputation or have ulterior motives, there is no need for this kind of person to give him face, just let their opinions be reserved directly!
Director Ding's data is very detailed, and the conclusions are also very reasonable. But he deliberately ignored a problem.
There are indeed less than 200 experts who specialize in calligraphy and painting on the scene, and it is true that 182 people have publicly expressed their opinions on these ten calligraphy and paintings, which is true.
However, this data does not mean that the 182 people who spoke this are all experts in calligraphy and painting! Among them, half of them can be calligraphy and painting expertise, which is good!
But this is the so-called democratic centralization, and the people who have the right to speak can naturally play with these data casually, anyway, it is impossible for the people below to accurately grasp these basic data.
After this decision came out, there was no objection, after all, the conference was able to do this kind of thing and already took care of them.
It's just that Liu Mingxin obviously didn't want to let Li Yi go so easily, and after Director Ding finished speaking, he shouted directly, "Director Ding, should we ask Director Li Yi and Director Li to express his opinion on his collection!" Causing such a big controversy, doesn't he have anything to say? Or is there a problem in the first place, and you dare not say it? β
As soon as these words came out, the scene was in an uproar, this is to tear your face hard!
At such a time, Li Yi couldn't show up, so he had to go on stage, first thanked him, and then said: "I insist on my judgment about the controversy over these works. But in front of so many old-timers, it doesn't matter what I said, and it doesn't count what you Liu Mingxin and Liu Da experts said, in short, I respect everyone's opinions. β
Li Yi was too lazy to say that if it weren't for Wang Haoqing's news, he would definitely come up with evidence and argue with him well. But now, as for it?