Chapter 254 Wafer Factory
"Large wafer fabs? Do you want to make wafers? Li Jian chatted with Tan Yongsheng for a while, and then heard Tan Yongsheng talk about silicon wafer processing, and it was not difficult to think of Tan Yongsheng's thoughts, which also coincided with his thoughts.
Li Jianyou has this idea for more than a day or two, since the beginning of the transformation of Li Hongjun's paper mill, he has been preparing for a wafer factory, and the accumulation of more than half a year is also for this purpose.
Because Li Jian knows that all modern scientific and technological progress, especially the progress of the electronics industry, is inseparable from large-scale integrated circuits.
Presumably, this has been considered by the top management for a long time, but it is only forced by the status quo and the invisible blockade that there is no way but to work silently.
Now, if we talk about Yongsheng's momentum of creating an international precedent and taking the lead in the Ministry of Electronics Industry, then Li Jian feels that his goal can be achieved in advance.
Even if it is to open a wafer factory in the name of the country, Li Jian does not hesitate to contribute his own strength, of course, after accumulating enough strength, he will definitely open a wafer factory, although the two are competitive, but the entire large-scale integrated circuit market, two wafer factories are still far from enough.
Tan Yongsheng nodded,
Li Jian asked,
"Plant site selection and construction and raw materials do not need to worry, we must have mastered the technical aspect, but how to solve the equipment, CNC machine tools are still in the embargoed list, and there are not so many skilled workers in China, the most important thing is that your old man will definitely not come to the construction of this factory. Who will you send, and will it be like the 247 factory in Xiwu, which was almost strangled alive by the historical mission and the glorious political mission in the process of growth. ”
What Li Jian said was actually very polite. However, he and Tan Yongsheng are very familiar with each other, so Tan Yongsheng has no other feelings, knowing that Li Jian is purely reminding him of the difficulties he will face.
However, Tan Yongsheng felt that no matter how smart Li Jian's kid was, he might have to guess wrong this time.
"That's not what I worry about."
"You don't have to worry about it, but you'll have to bother finding this person. The person you picked is probably going to be unlucky, and you are watching from above. He has no way to fill his own pockets, and he has to bother to solve these problems, and he can't get any benefits, maybe he will even have to take off the official hat he originally got after a few days. Who wants to come. ”
Li Jian thought about Tan Yongsheng after finding someone. The embarrassment of the other party, but a little gloating, in case the other party really solves these problems, he can save a lot of effort, at least no need to think about the import of CNC machine tools, the industrial machine is a golden rooster that lays eggs.
"That's what you worry about."
Tan Yongsheng picked up the teacup in front of him, flicked the tea leaves on it with the lid, and looked at Li Jian with a smile without saying a word.
"I'm worried?" Li Jian was a little puzzled. The affairs of the Ministry of Electronics Industry, it is their turn to worry about something. It's not Qianghua that is engaged in this wafer factory.
"The ministry does not come forward, you are a foreign-funded enterprise, find a way to take advantage of the good opportunity of eight or six years to build the wafer factory first, and the ministry will give you a certain amount of support, but you must occupy a certain amount of shares."
Tan Yongsheng revealed the mystery at this time, Li Jian did not answer immediately, his eyebrows had already been raised into Sichuan characters, he was thinking about the information contained in this sentence.
It is normal for the Ministry of Electronics Industry to set up a wafer factory, but why hand it over to itself? Because of the relationship with Tan Yongsheng? This point was immediately denied by Li Jian after just turning in Li Jian's mind, this is simply impossible, with his relationship, countless people are more suitable than him.
The thing that makes me a little better than others is that I know a little bit more.
Tan Yongsheng takes a fancy to himself is nothing more than this, plus he still has so many attachments and dreams for the motherland in his heart, and he is not a full mercenary businessman.
That's why he was relieved to let himself take on this part of the responsibility?
Perhaps because of the existence of the feudal domain of Batumi, the country has not found a good way to break the situation, and it is not necessary to put hope on oneself, especially the state-owned capital should occupy a stake in it, and the most invested is the land and plant equipment of the factory, and the pure capital investment will not account for much proportion.
Even if these fixed assets go bankrupt in the factory, they will remain on the land, and the equipment will not have the current more advanced equipment, so whether it is successful or not, the loss of state-owned capital will not be too large, and once successful, state-owned capital not only earns profits, but also obtains products, and is also banned by Batumi products, but also through the factory, to obtain some knowledge of precision equipment, they come to learn, it is impossible for them not to give face at all, especially when state-owned capital still holds shares.
"Minister Tan is scheming!" Li Jian sighed,
"But this date, I had to swallow it, even though it was a little hard."
Looking at Tan Yongsheng's gaze, with some complicated emotions, Li Jian is actually still a little grateful to Tan Yongsheng, if there is no proposal, his own wafer factory plan still needs to be postponed for six months to eight months to start preparations, if it is really completed, this time may be postponed for about a year, that is to say, I am afraid that it will not be until the end of 88, the beginning of 89 years, it is possible to truly refer to its own wafer factory, in order to officially start the production of monocrystalline silicon wafers.
According to the current development speed of integrated circuits, monocrystalline silicon wafers have grown from 3 inches to 4 inches to 6 inches, and their own technology has also lagged behind.
There is still no way to reach the world's leading technical level, and what I lack most now is time.
"Seventy percent of the state-owned shares are owned by the state, but the management is yours."
Tan Yongsheng said lightly, as if what he said had nothing to do with him, this sentence floated to Li Jian's ears, and Li Jian was about to jump up,
"Old Tan, if you don't have a good idea, if you come up with something, let me give you seventy percent of the shares, it's impossible."
Li Jian's attitude was very resolute, Tan Yongsheng stretched out five fingers and broke them one by one,
"First, we go out of the plant, raw materials, land, and equipment. Second, we have a policy. Third, we are going to send personnel, I'm afraid there are not many people under your command who meet the conditions of silicon wafer factory workers, right? Fourth, we go out of the market, all the products are underwritten, you only out of the fifth, management, do you think it is better to give you 30% or 20%? ”
Looking at Lao Tan's unbeaten face, Li Jian wanted to smooth out all the folds on his face, and then tear it off and throw it aside. Ask Lao Tan if you want more, but he can't.
So Li Jian simply stretched out five fingers, Tan Yongsheng glanced at it and immediately shook his head, "Fifty percent, impossible!" ”
"I'll tell you five reasons why you picked me." Li Jian didn't pay attention to Tan Yongsheng at all, this is the time to be calm with him about the shares, that is to find anger on his own, and people are already relying on the old to sell the old.
"First, technology, except for me, you can't find anyone who is more proficient in the industrial production of large-scale integrated circuits, second, technology, how to manage a high-tech enterprise has been in the forefront of the world, you can choose the person, and no experience, third, technology, CNC machine tools, these Batumi mastered process technology you can't break through, fourth, technology, product follow-up international competition, you have no experience, fifth, technology, from outside the introduction of wafer factory technology, you also have no way."
Li Jian said five aspects in a row, but added the word technology after each point, to put it bluntly, it is to remind Tan Yongsheng clearly, technology is the most important, what you mentioned is not a matter at all, you have those things, no technology, it is in vain.
And Li Jian wants to tell Tan Yongsheng, if you want to do this, I won't play with you, what you can't solve, I can solve it, and if you can solve it, I can too.
"Okay, referring to Sang scolding Huai? Saying that I don't respect technology and don't give you the corresponding technical value? Say, how much can you give? How much is prepared? ”
Tan Yongsheng's original intention was to probe the bottom and see where Li Jian's bottom line was, he believed that Li Jian would know in his heart no matter what, since the country wanted to do this thing, it must be done, and it must be done efficiently, perfectly and successfully, without any failure, and to ensure that state-owned capital plays a leading role in it, so what can be considered is to give Li Jian a maximum of 49 percent of the shares, no matter how much role Li Jian plays in it, how much capital he invests, this is the bottom line of state-owned enterprises.
"I, just invest in one person and take tens of thousands of dollars with me, of course, I have to invest a lot of ideas and a lot of effort, so I want 85%!" Li Jian said lightly, and suddenly Tan Yongsheng spurted out a mouthful of old blood, he knew that Li Jian's lion opened his mouth widely, but he didn't know that Li Jian's mouth was so open.
Eighty-five percent, even if it is a sky-high asking price, it is not so demanding, you have this money is better than to set up a wafer factory by yourself, why cooperate with state-owned capital?
Start your own? Tan Yongsheng was stunned for a moment, it seems that this kid thinks so, put forward an unreasonable request, after he refused, he simply had a reason not to cooperate, and then started a new stove by himself, it is true that as Li Jian said, he has enough skills.
The same conditions are here, why would he help a state-owned wafer factory to work hard instead of opening his own factory?
His factory has begun to take shape, and a huge wafer factory is not a difficult thing, what he lacks is nothing more than money, land, factories, workers, these are still things in the face of enough money?
"Eighty-five percent, do you want me to say no and then build a new wafer factory by myself? You don't want to cooperate with state-owned capital to form a joint venture company, do you? (To be continued......)