Chang Zheng: "First of all, I am very grateful to Uncle Hu for taking time out of his busy schedule to meet me. I know you must be a little confused right now, didn't this kid come to me for an errand? How did you change your hexagram now? For me personally, I love writing more about literature. If Uncle Hu could take another half an hour and listen to some of my opinions, I would be very grateful. ”

Hu Weihua became a little interested, "Oh? Let's talk about it. ”

Chang Zheng: "I've been engaged in online literature creation for a few years, and when I write, I keep asking myself, why do I write? Hobbies? Or wealth, fame? Show off your literary talent and hook up with a literary girl? Or earn bread and milk to solve livelihood problems? If you're lucky, you can also earn a villa yacht, hook up with more high-end girls, and consume more high-end bread and milk. ”

Hu Weihua squinted and smiled: "Why? ”

Chang Zheng: "When I first started writing, it was because of my hobbies, and I found that writing this thing can make me famous and make money. As I continued to write, I found that this bowl of rice was not very easy to eat. Those great gods and great writers are born out of a thousand. People only saw the beautiful characters at the top of the pyramid, but forgot the countless cannon fodder at the base of the tower. ”

Hu Weihua continued to squint and smile: "That's true. ”

Chang Zheng: "Later, I began to reflect on the original intention of an author, for an author, to give his own emotional experience a sufficient sense of meaning, ritual, and order, to name the emotional phenomena of life, to resonate with the recipient, to awaken the reader's inner desire for life, and to obtain a higher level of spiritual satisfaction. That's why literature is made. ”

Hu Weihua: "I agree with you, what you said is the definition of creation in the theory of literary creation. So are you doing it now? ”

Chang Zheng: "Yes, I'm doing it, and millions of writers across the country are doing it. ”

Hu Weihua: "But among these millions of writers, many people are still running for girls and bread and milk. ”

Chang Zheng said with a smile: "Writing is also a profession, and he is a member of the three hundred and sixty lines in this society. Writers, like cooks, tailors, and drivers, are working people who eat with their own hands. We have to eat, so we need bread. We have to reproduce, so we need girls, or fresh meat, or uncles.

Middle-class writers can buy a dozen freshly baked egg tarts, and top writers can fly to the Adriatic Sea at any time, sit on a yacht and cuddle a bikini Yanma and spread caviar on golden bread. In these years, it is the era of business, the society is extremely realistic, and everyone needs material satisfaction. But what kind of heights can we achieve in the end of our business? Big Rich? Or a great writer? ”

Hu Weihua took out a cigarette case, took out one and handed it to Chang Zheng, lit one himself, and said with a smile: "Isn't it enough to be a rich man or a big writer?" ”

Chang Zheng took the cigarette and lit the fire, took a puff, and there was a faint excitement in his eyes: "Writers are a group of special professions, and we have our own advantages, which may not even be comparable to professional soldiers." The pursuit of pleasure is the fundamental operating mechanism of human life, and it is also the driving mechanism of social operation.

If you can get someone else's prefrontal cortex in charge of positive pleasure emotions excited, they will see you as a source of happiness and will be willing to move closer to you and do whatever you want for you. A lot of crazy fans can die for their idols and do everything, that's it, because their idols can bring them great spiritual pleasure and satisfaction. There are cases of this, and you can often see it in real life. ”

When Chang Zheng said this, Hu Weihua had been listening intently, so much so that he forgot to play it when the cigarette ash grew long.

"Oh", Hu Weihua flicked the ashes, "you continue." ”

Chang Zheng: "Maybe what I said is a bit one-sided, not only writers, but also people who are engaged in cultural work have this advantage. Writers are responsible for creating pleasure, while publishing houses and websites are responsible for supplying pleasure. The actor is responsible for creating pleasure, and the film company is responsible for supplying it. The singer is responsible for creating pleasure, and the music company is responsible for supplying pleasure...... Wait a minute.

If under the traction of some force, manufacturers and suppliers can form a long-term monopoly mechanism, gather the best cultural people in the country, and establish a ...... Empire, the empire of culture. It will be a very magnificent new era, and maybe we can change the world! A real superpower must be a cultural power and a cultural exporting country.

If you look at the countries that can be called superpowers in the world at the moment, isn't that so? Does our country import more culture, or export more culture? Which country exports the most culture to our country? Our generation of young people, since childhood, do they watch more anime from their own country or more from abroad? ”

Hu Weihua pondered for two minutes without speaking, just smoking, and then he sighed: "Xiao Chang, if you realized what you said just now, I can only say that we are all old, and there are talented people in the country, so we have to serve the old." I hope that in my lifetime, I will be able to see this magnificent new era. ”

"You'll be able to see it, and maybe even be able to get involved. Maybe we can really usher in our new era, our age of empires! A spark flashed in Chang Zheng's eyes, although it was fleeting, it was captured by Hu Weihua.

Chang Zheng spat out the smoke ring, looked at his watch, and said apologetically: "I'm sorry, half an hour has passed." Hey, my gold finger hasn't been shown yet, the beginning is too grinding, and there are a lot of world settings, hehe. ”

"Goldfinger? What? A movie in the United States? Hu Weihua said: "You continue, I want to continue to listen." Xiao Chang, would you like to think about it again? Really don't come to me? If you want to come, you can start directly with the editor-in-charge, and you don't have to go through the assistant editor stage. ”

Chang Zheng: "Thank you Uncle Hu for your kindness." Actually, writers and editors have the same ultimate goal, aren't they? Perhaps what I just said is just wishful thinking. But I think that if you don't even dare to be sexual, how can you talk about practice. In my opinion, in the field of culture, novels, including the literary embodiment of other genres, are the most culturally rich, the most able to create pleasure for people, and the most influential cultural form of human hearts.

Of course, film and television, music, comics, including games, etc., all have this pleasure-making function. But literature is certainly the first, its influence can stand the test of time, and literature can derive cultural forms in the other fields mentioned above. ”

Hu Weihua: "That's right, many film and television works are adapted from novels, even if it is an original script, it also requires the screenwriter to have deep literary creation skills, in fact, the script can also be regarded as a novel." Games, animation, and literary creation are also closely related. ”

Chang Zheng: "Uncle Hu, let's take a look at the current status of online literature. As I said earlier, whoever can create and supply pleasure and give people great pleasure and satisfaction will be able to influence this society. At present, the supply of online articles, this kind of pleasure supply, has begun to slow down.

Take, for example, the three major online literature sites, science fiction and historical novels are basically dead because they are too dull to read and can no longer provide enough pleasure for readers. The current online literature is basically supported by martial arts and the city. And martial arts and urban novels are basically old wine in old bottles, and occasionally old wine in new bottles, but it basically tastes like that. In the long run, readers will always get tired of it, and the old wine will not stimulate the readers' taste buds and nerves, and they will not be able to get great pleasure, and no one will drink from now on. Therefore, we should make new bottles and new wines to satisfy the market. ”

"Oh, tell me, do you have a recipe for a new wine?" , When it comes to this topic, Hu Weihua seems to be more excited, after all, he is the head of a company, and his vision is naturally lofty. As for the theory of cultural empires, he may not have thought that far ahead.

It's not that he didn't think so far, maybe it's because Hu Weihua thought too far that he knew how easy it was to build an empire? Don't you have to fight, don't you need the dead? If the Minister of Culture had come to talk to him about it, he might have taken it seriously. But Chang Zheng is just a young man in his early twenties, the son of a veteran artilleryman.

Chang Zheng continued: "Internet literature, we can classify it into the category of popular literature. An important function and responsibility of popular literature is 'desire/desire narrative'. It is undeniable that classic literature will always be our treasure, but classic literature gives people more to think and inspire than to be satisfied.

And the current situation in today's society is that most people need a kind of selfish desire satisfaction in order to obtain great spiritual pleasure. Today's online articles can provide this kind of pleasure, but the pace is too slow. Hundreds of thousands of words, or even hundreds of thousands of words, can even create a pleasure point until the book is finished.

It's not a few decades ago, when everyone rode bikes. Nowadays, everyone is driving a car, and the online article is still stuck in the era of bicycles. Therefore, we need a new style of fiction to meet the needs of the market and provide more, faster and more refreshing selfish desires. 30,000 or 50,000 words, it will produce a refreshing point, and appropriately add some YY elements, which is the structural formula of the new wine. ”

"YY elements? It seems that you also went to the empty talk base to read that post, what is the post called 'Analysis YY'. It's a very new and impactful idea, but I don't reject this point of view, YY culture, it's not a problem in itself, it also belongs to a branch of popular literature, and we shouldn't reject it. As you just said, we should persist in implementing the principle of a hundred schools of thought contending and a hundred flowers blooming. The person who posted it had a lot of ideas. Hu Weihua said.

Chang Zheng: "That post was written by me. ”

Hu Weihua: "......"