Everyone sat down in the hospitality sofa area, Fan Hongyu had a straight waist and a straight back, and his sitting posture was extremely upright.

The sitting posture of You Limin and Qiu Mingshan is relatively casual.

Fang Kecheng personally served tea to the guests. Fan Hongyu also noticed just now that there were several people working at the desk in the wing room on one side, and it was estimated that they were all staff members of Vice Premier Hong's office. I have long heard that many principal leading comrades of the CPC Central Committee have irregular work and rest schedules, and this is indeed the case.

"Xiao Fan, be casual, don't be so restrained."

Seeing that Fan Hongyu took out the "panache" of the police academy students, Vice Premier Hong said with a smile and waved his hand lightly.

As early as when I heard that Vice Premier Hong was a leader of the color and was in charge of the pearl, he was known for his "daring to speak", and he could say whatever he wanted, and he was rarely taboo.

Fan Hongyu hurriedly replied: "The elder is in front, don't dare to be presumptuous." ”

Still sitting upright.

Vice Premier Hong is a color leader, which does not mean that Fan Hongyu can be very casual.

Vice Premier Hong smiled slightly and said, "You are very firm in your principles. ”

You Limin smiled: "This person is not very old, his temper is not small, and he often makes mistakes. ”

Fan Hongyu didn't prevent You Limin from "killing a shot" in the oblique stab, and suddenly made a red face. It seems that the two elders who appreciate him the most, You Limin and Qiu Mingshan, like to tease him from time to time.

Vice Premier Hong said with a smile: "Young people, everything has a personality. When I was younger, I was also a lot of offenders...... Well, reform, sometimes you just need a bit of temper. People are the same people, people from the left and right, that is the bureaucracy. It can handle all kinds of responsible personnel relations, but it may not be able to handle all kinds of responsible specific work...... The restructuring of state-owned enterprises is very complicated, and the character is a little weaker, and it really can't be persevered. ”

It seems to be unintentionally. Vice Premier Hong talked about getting down to business.

The smile on You Limin's face gradually faded, nodded, and said: "The restructuring of state-owned enterprises involves the vital interests of thousands of households and some deep-seated institutional issues, which is indeed very complicated. Some problems are very difficult to deal with. ”

"For example? Comrade Limin thinks that what are the most difficult problems to deal with in the restructuring of state-owned enterprises? ”

Vice Premier Hong looked at You Limin and asked very seriously.

He invited You Limin and the others to come here to discuss the work related to the restructuring of state-owned enterprises. In this regard. Qingshan Province has inadvertently been at the forefront of the country.

You Limin said slowly: "According to the current practice, most of the restructured state-owned enterprises have achieved very good economic benefits. The Yanhua area was the first to try to restructure state-owned enterprises. More than 80 percent of the restructured enterprises have turned losses into profits in a short period of time. In terms of economic efficiency alone, the restructuring was successful. Of course, there are no fewer problems. There are two main problems that are really the most difficult to deal with. The first is the depth of restructuring, in the final analysis, it is a question of the attributes of enterprise ownership; The second issue is the resettlement of laid-off workers. ”

Vice Premier Hong bowed his head slightly and asked: "What are the main methods used in the current reform of state-owned enterprises in Yanhua?" ”

You Limin turned his head to look at Qiu Mingshan. said: "Comrade Mingshan, please answer this question." ”

Specific to the work in the Yanhua area. Naturally, it is more appropriate for the secretary of the Yanhua Prefectural Party Committee to answer.

Qiu Mingshan was not polite, nodded, straightened up, and said, "Okay, Governor You...... Heads. At present, there are three main ways and methods used in the restructuring of state-owned enterprises in Yanhua. The first is to carry out shareholding system transformation of the whole enterprise, the second is to carry out contract operation, and the third is to carry out leasing operation. Among them, the shareholding system reform is divided into two ways. One is to introduce foreign capital for cooperation, with foreign capital accounting for a certain amount of shares and ourselves accounting for a certain amount of shares. This shareholding ratio only involves the right to operate and manage, and does not involve the ownership of the enterprise. Even if foreign capital accounts for more than 50 percent of the shares, the nature of public-owned enterprises will not change. The other way is the participation of employees within the enterprise, plus the participation of private funds, which is the same as the operation mode of foreign participation, and the main body of equity participation is different. ”

"Hmm...... You continue! ”

Vice Premier Hong nodded thoughtfully and said in a deep voice.

"The second way is to contract. This one is more complicated. First of all, the contractor, generally the internal employees of the enterprise, and a few people outside the enterprise. There are also many ways to contract. One is full contracting, and the entire enterprise is operated and managed by the contractor, and pays a certain amount of management fees to the government every year. The cadres and workers within the enterprise are also arranged by the contractor, including the retired employees......"

"Comrade Mingshan, won't other problems occur with this kind of contracting? For example, when employees are laid off, retirement wages and other benefits are paid to retired employees. ”

Vice Premier Hong interrupted Qiu Mingshan's elaboration and asked, his heavy eyebrows frowning slightly.

Qiu Mingshan couldn't help but admire and said, "Yes, the chief asked the two most difficult questions in fact. With regard to the arrangements for laid-off workers and retired workers, the contractor and the competent government authorities often quarrel with each other. As a matter of fact, too many redundant personnel were a major burden that existed in the former public-owned enterprises. Institutions are bloated, slow to respond, and do not adapt to the development situation of the market economy, and enterprises suffer serious losses. Many contractors are able to effectively solve production and sales problems, but they are usually reluctant to accept excessive redundancy and are not willing to solve the salary of retired employees. From an objective and fair standpoint, contractors do have certain difficulties. If they are forced to accept all the cadres and workers of the enterprise, they will not have the right to employ people, and it will be difficult for them to straighten out the internal management mechanism of the enterprise, and their production output will not be able to decline. In business, if the contractor is not profitable, they will not contract......"

"So how are you solving this problem now?"

Vice Premier Hong asked with concern.

Qiu Mingshan groaned and said: "Chief, to tell you the truth, we have not found a unified solution to this problem for the time being, and it is generally the competent unit and the contractor to negotiate and reach an agreement as much as possible. The contractor pays a part of the cost, and the competent unit takes a part of the management fee paid by the contractor as compensation for the laid-off workers. As for the salaries of retired cadres and workers, they must still be borne by enterprises. This is a huge expense, and it would be too difficult for the government to absorb it all...... However, in Yunhu County, Fan Hongyu is exploring some new methods, and if it works, it can solve this problem more appropriately. ”

"Oh?"

Vice Premier Hong suddenly became interested and looked at Fan Hongyu with some surprise.

"Comrade Xiao Fan, what good can you do?"

"Reform of the social security system." Fan Hongyu said succinctly: "Chief, we are exploring the reform and improvement of the relevant social security system. ”

Since it was a specific work discussion, Fan Hongyu did not pay too much attention to politeness, and answered Vice Premier Hong's questions directly.

"Reform and improvement of the social security system? Well, this entry point is relatively new...... Okay, Comrade Mingshan, please continue to talk. We'll talk about that later. ”

"Yes, chief. There is also a contracting model, which is the contracting within the enterprise. For example, the production department is contracted to one person, and the sales department is contracted to another person, or only one part of the process is contracted. Usually this happens in businesses that are not yet very loss-making. Some enterprises produce products that are not outdated and have a certain market demand, but the sales channels cannot be opened, the sales volume is too high, and the product backlog leads to losses. In this case, you can contract out the sales link alone, and sell the product with the help of some capable people. Or if the sales are not a problem, and the output and quality of the products cannot keep up, then the production department will be contracted out......"

"Hehe, the business department system."

Vice Premier Hong nodded and said with a smile.

Qiu Mingshan also smiled: "There is such a meaning. ”

"Well, great, as long as it works, whatever the method, it's worth a try. What is the leasing model you are talking about? ”

"Leasing is mainly to revitalize some idle assets. Many of our enterprises, because of institutional and internal management problems, have more or less idle assets, which cannot produce benefits, but have to spend money on maintenance. By leasing out these idle assets, you can obtain a sum of money and save on the cost of custody and maintenance. Existing assets can be maximized to generate benefits. The restructuring of many enterprises is often a mixture of two different models. As the chief said, we encourage companies to experiment as long as it works. Since the beginning of the previous year, our Yanhua area has begun to try to restructure state-owned enterprises. By the first half of this year, all state-owned enterprises and collective enterprises had been restructured to varying degrees, and 80 percent of the enterprises had turned losses into profits after the restructuring, and the economic returns were still quite considerable. Although a small number of cadres and workers have been laid off and unemployed, the wages and benefits of the majority of cadres and workers have been raised, and the financial burden has also been greatly reduced. Overall, the pros outweigh the cons. ”

Qiu Mingshan said with certainty.

"Hehe, good, very good, as long as the economic benefits are considerable, as long as the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, then it is very good. Comrade Limin and Comrade Mingshan, these reform explorations you have carried out are very meaningful. At present, most of the state-owned enterprises in the country are facing the problem of losing money. This is an objective fact, and it goes without saying it. We must carry out reform and opening up, we must develop a market economy, and the restructuring of public-owned enterprises is a hurdle that cannot be bypassed. This is a problem that must be addressed, and it must be addressed immediately. One more day of delay is one more day lost. We can't afford to delay......"

Vice Premier Hong gently patted the armrest of the sofa and said with great emotion.

You Limin nodded and said approvingly: "Yes, Vice Premier Hong, I also think that the restructuring of public-owned enterprises is imperative. The sooner the change is made, the more beneficial it will be to the construction of the national economy. ”

"Well, that's right."

ps: Thank you for the 50,000 generous gift of the saint for returning to the city, Director Fang is mighty!