W Qian Xuesen continued to proudly say: "I can't believe such a fast speed. It was only when the two bombs were developed that I felt this way. However, at that time, there were few projects, and only a few major projects could progress quickly, unlike now, which is in full bloom, involving most fields, and scientific and technological achievements are emerging in an endless stream. ......, hehe, speaking of which, it's really thanks to you, without your support, I don't think it would have been possible to have such a good situation. ”

Guo Zhuocheng hurriedly said modestly: "Old Qian, you are killing me." What really plays a role is the central bosses, who have created a relaxed environment for us, and we scientific and technological workers can freely carry out technical exchanges with foreign countries. ”

Qian Xuesen said: "That being said, leaders do have the credit of leaders, and we will not rob them." But you really owe a lot to the fact that we are able to concentrate on our research freely and proudly. First of all, you input a large amount of funds into various scientific research units, so that our scientific and technological personnel have no worries, and there is no need to worry about the higher authorities suddenly cutting the project due to a shortage of funds. Your contribution is remarkable. However, a large amount of money is only a small part of the contribution you make, and the main thing is to help us build a good platform that we never dreamed of.

You started with computer technology to approach or even surpass the computer level of the United States, and built a platform for us people to communicate on an equal footing in the international community. There is no such fair platform. Those of us who have just communicated with the outside world are little daughters-in-law, and they will be discriminated against by others, and it is difficult to get the technology we really need, and you have also given our experts self-confidence, and we can do what others can do. In addition, your actions in Iraq provide a bright window for us to understand modern warplanes, so that we can have equal exchanges with Britain, France, and Sweden, including missiles and aircraft, because aircraft manufacturing involves the largest number of technical categories, which can lead to the development of industries and science and technology, and this is the prosperity of our science and technology. It is because of these. We can be interchangeable with them on an equal footing in technical exchanges, no longer asking them as students and apprentices, not only do we have to pay no extra price, but we can also ask them for us.

This is something that leaders can't do. Western countries have misunderstanding and even discrimination against our country, and without your efforts, we don't know how much price and self-esteem we have to pay. In case you didn't know, right now we are in talks with Sweden to have a technology swap in several areas. They help us in radar design, manufacturing, and transfer technology in relation to sonar sensors. We help them with integrated circuits and computer software. ”

Guo Zhuocheng knows that although Sweden is a very small country, about the size of a medium-sized province in China, and the population is only more than a medium-sized city in China, and the total population of the country was only more than 7 million until 2000, their science and technology are indeed very developed. In particular, the technology of telecommunications equipment, third-generation aircraft, phased array radar, precision electronics, and AIP submarines belongs to the world's advanced level. In the past life, everyone was familiar with Ericsson, which was the giant of time telecommunications, especially around 2000. And the "Lion" fighter of the Swedish company Saab is also famous all over the world. In addition, during the Sino-Vietnamese border war, the artillery radar equipment imported by the United States was made in Sweden and is a cutting-edge equipment, and this high-tech radar can quickly calculate the orientation of the opponent's artillery position according to the trajectory of the artillery shells fired by the Vietnamese army, so that the Chinese artillery can continue to cover the artillery positions of the Vietnamese army in the first time.

If China really cooperates with them. We will certainly be able to get a lot of high-tech technology from them, which will play a tremendous role in promoting the upgrading of China's national defense technology. And this kind of small country is not really following the same path as the United States, and many times as long as the jobs are in place and the price is right, they can get high-tech from them that the Americans prohibit from exporting.

Guo Zhuocheng said: "For exchanges with Sweden, I propose to further open up my hands and feet. In order to ensure that we do not suffer losses, we will carry out all-round technical exchanges, not only in high-tech aspects, but also in civilian aspects, such as metallurgical manufacturing, electronic communications, papermaking technology, fishery and fishing, and so on. ”

Qian Xuesen said happily: "Great. I'm worried that you're not willing to trade our technology. I'm worried that you won't be able to afford them. ”

Guo Zhuocheng smiled and said, "Are you and I such people? As long as they are better than us, we will learn from them. ”

Qian Xuesen sighed and said, "There are too many such people. There are still many people who only have their eyes on the Americans, the French. In order to get technology from the United States, it is to smash the pot and sell iron, but there is a disdain for other countries, but we do not know that although the sparrows are small, there are many things worth learning from us, and the cost is much smaller than that from the United States. ”

Guo Shucheng nodded and said, "Yes." ......, moreover, we must also be prepared to make enemies with the United States, and we should firmly grasp one more way to import technology. ”

When the two were communicating with their hearts, they arrived home unconsciously.

After the orderly brought the tea, Qian Xuesen took Guo Zhuocheng to the study and said, "There are two things I talked about with you today, and it should be said that there are two important things that I would like you to help with. ”

Guo Shucheng smiled at him and asked, "If you are so solemn, it will definitely be troublesome, and you won't do it in general, just a phone call." Am I still not obeying your commands? I'll have to think about it. ”

Qian Xuesen said embarrassedly: "Of course it's a big deal. I'm too embarrassed to say it. The first thing is the miniaturization of nuclear (bombs), and the second is high-power launch vehicles. ”

Guo Shucheng asked: "Do you want money or people?" ”

Qian Xuesen replied: "Money, we are not short of money now, and I believe you can still help us sell YJ-0." As long as we sell our missiles, we will have more money. What I lack most now is talent, and we need a large number of experts and scientists on our side, and they are multifaceted and comprehensive experts, scientists. You have to help us anyway, originally I wanted to report to my superiors, but considering the relationship between the leader and you, this report is fine, and then they will become a hindrance to me and help you oppose our plan to transfer people. ”

As he spoke, he smiled: "Hehe, your relationship with the leader is not comparable to me." ”

His words are not entirely ridicule, let alone jealousy, but because of reality: the Third Machinery Department led by Guo Zhuocheng is too profitable, and now the Third Machinery Department has almost become a bank of national finance, and it is a bank that can take out a large amount of money at any time and does not have to pay it back. The central bigwigs naturally favored the three machine departments, for fear that their problems would affect foreign exchange earnings.

In addition, the Third Aircraft Department is now operating very well, and scientific research results have emerged one after another, greatly improving the armament of the troops and enhancing the combat effectiveness of the troops.

It can be said that what the central bosses hope for most now is the stability of the three machine departments, and they do not want any chaos in the three machine departments. Before it is uncertain whether the transfer of top experts from the Third Machine Department will cause a shortage of talents in the Third Machine Department and a negative impact on production, the central boss must not be willing to Qian Xuesen to draw blood from the Third Machine Department, even if Qian Xuesen's work is very important.

Guo Zhuocheng looked at Qian Xuesen in embarrassment, and did not speak for a long time: as the department he manages, everyone wants to be as powerful as possible, even if he does not consider the factors of political performance, that is, only considers the smooth work, the stronger his subordinates, the more handy he will work.

However, the two things that Qian Lao said are very important. Only when (nuclear) weapons are miniaturized and can be installed in missiles can they be used to deter them, so that the enemy will not be able to guard against them, and people will be afraid of you. If a bomb is so heavy that it can only be carried by airplane, its deterrent effect is reduced by at least 90 percent. Because planes loaded with (nuclear) bombs can easily be shot down by the other side.

The importance of high-power launch vehicles is equally important, and only with high-power launch vehicles can the ability to deliver multiple warheads be realized. With the ability to deliver multiple warheads, it is possible to use decoy bombs to cover real (nuclear) warheads for penetration, increasing the power of nuclear strikes. Now China has tested missiles with multiple warheads, and it has been successful.

Since Qian Xuesen so solemnly proposed to call in the experts and scientists of the Third Machinery Department, in addition to further improving and improving, there must be other purposes. According to Guo Shucheng's estimate, the high-power rocket developed by Qian Lao and his team is likely to be aimed at aerospace technology, and perhaps now Qian Xuesen and other scientists have already considered engaging in manned spaceflight.

Thinking of this, Guo Zhuocheng resolutely said: "Okay! I support your motion, and I support your action. As long as you need it, our three machine departments want people to give people, money to money, materials and technology, we will give materials to technology. ”

Qian Xuesen looked at him in surprise and asked in disbelief, "You really agreed?" I can remind you that the people we are going to transfer are now in charge of you, and once they are gone, it is likely that some of your projects will stall or even fail. You have to think about it. ”

Speaking of this, he said: "I heard that you are a person who is not willing to suffer, hehe, we want you to suffer a big loss this time." ”

Guo Zhuocheng listened to Qian Xuesen's words, and felt a pain in his heart: If he can say this kind of thing, it means that he wants to dig up his own right-hand man, so it is likely that a lot of his work will be difficult to carry out, and many deployments may not be able to continue.

However, Guo Zhuocheng still decided to fully support Qian Xuesen and them, not only because he presided over the important weapons of the country, but more importantly, he believed in Qian Lao's character and wisdom. His skills are by no means comparable to those of a reborn cheater like himself.

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