"Order." Su shook his head the most, this thing is not easy to get. To be honest, he didn't know much when he entered this industry, but now that he has a half-baked level, he finds out the difficulties of this industry.

The process of 20nm or smaller process is very powerful, but most of the chips are not supported yet, and only top design companies such as Apple, Intel, and Qualcomm can do it, and only their financial resources can afford it.

But Intel has its own wafer foundry factory, and no matter how good you are, you can't get their orders; Apple handed over to Samsung and TSMC to do it, and I heard that the A9 with the 16nm process has signed a contract with TSMC; Qualcomm is mainly a TSMC foundry, Samsung also has it, as well as some wafer companies on Taiwan, and I heard that SMIC has also set up a relationship with them.

The above ones are not easy to pick up, and then look at the worse ones. Although AMD's own wafer factory has been sold, the chip foundry has a fixed enterprise; MediaTek is TSMC, as well as some Taiwanese OEMs...... In short, it is not easy to grab these shares in the end.

Well, let's look back at the domestic semiconductor IC design companies.

Huawei HiSilicon has relied on Huawei's parent company to develop well over the years, but their low-end processors are foundry by SMIC, such as video processing chips such as cameras and set-top boxes; The high-end processor Kirin series is OEM by TSMC......

If you really want to do wafer foundry at the end of the day, it's good to dig into TSMC's corners. Moreover, HiSilicon has also designed a 16nm chip, which is estimated to be available in the second half of the year, and with TSMC's garbage production capacity, coupled with Apple's temperament, the main focus on Apple A9 may not be able to meet Huawei's needs.

Moreover, the grapevine said that the production capacity of TSMC's high-end process is very rubbish, and it kneels and licks apples, which often makes Qualcomm and Indavi unhappy. Eventually, I went to grab some share and came back. It's not impossible.

But OEM is not Su Shi's original intention.

"It's really hard to develop by doing your own design and making your own products?" Su asked Liu Dacheng and them.

"Mr. Su is probably referring to chip design, this thing must not be in a hurry to put into production, even if there is technology. Desktop...... That is, the computer processor Intel accounts for more than 80% of the share, and AMD relies on the price war to eat some leftovers. ”

"And the mobile phone processor Qualcomm is dominant, Apple has its own processor, in addition to Samsung, MediaTek, HiSilicon, etc., we are a new company, and the rash whole body investment is obviously not squeezed in. It's not that our company's technology can't work. It's just that consumers don't recognize it, and customers don't dare to place orders, so I'm afraid it will be in a state of loss in the short term, which is not conducive to the company's development. I still recommend that we do wafer foundry first, and when the production line matures, we will slowly make our own products. Liu Dacheng said in a low voice, and the people on the side also nodded in approval.

The market share has been dominated by these giants, and it is very difficult for you, a new company, to get involved. Don't talk about it, let's talk about the HiSilicon Kirin processor at the door. Although the performance is not as good as Qualcomm's flagship products, it is also good, but if you don't rely on Huawei terminals, you can produce and sell them yourself. It can't be developed at all, because no one uses it. High-end with Qualcomm, low-end MediaTek, this is already a deeply rooted belief. Irreversible for a short period of time.

Another example is Intel and AMD, when it comes to Intel, they feel high, while AMD relies on price to grab some low-end goods in the market. The sales of low-end processors are not bad, and the high-end ones are not even Intel looking at it. In addition, the sales model is strange, and it is jokingly called an 'agricultural enterprise', which is simply sad.

As for China's 'Loongson', not to mention for foreigners, even their own family members have disgusted expressions when they see these two words. Can't Loongson work? Of course you can, but tossing back and forth for more than ten years has always been just a joke.

Every time I encounter the news of Loongson, the following comments are designated as a hehe.

Sorrowful.

"Finally, there is the issue of patents, we started too late, and many places have to buy other people's patents, and we can't get around. This is not something that can be completed in a short period of time, and if it encounters a lawsuit, the company will not be able to fight those giants with its current capabilities. Liu Dacheng finally added.

"Well, don't rush to a conclusion now, you guys first familiarize yourself with the production line, and then make a few processors or something to come out and play." Su nodded the most, then took out a USB flash drive from his pocket and handed it to Liu Dacheng and handed it over.

"This is ......," Liu Dacheng took it.

"The design scheme of several processors, take it to play, and also be proficient in various machines." Su said most casually, handed over the things to Liu Dacheng and left the factory, and took the packaged wafer with him. The first wafer of the final semiconductor, which is very commemorative, is intended to be used for collection, and maybe it will be auctioned at a high price in ten or eight years.

Of course, the premise is that the most terminal semiconductors can develop and grow, otherwise no one wants to send them out.

"Processor design?" Liu Dacheng was inexplicable for a while, then found the computer and plugged it in, and almost fainted when he saw Wen Jiàn in the USB flash drive.

Apple A8, Qualcomm 810, Intel series, AMD series...... Manufacturing and design information are included.

It can't be stolen, right?

Although they are all old information, there will be no loss if these designs are leaked to the other party, after all, the patents have been applied for registration and cannot be used by outsiders, but they are not easy to get.

And these designs are very complicated, even if there are instruments and designs, they are not easy to make, Liu Dacheng suddenly felt a lot of pressure.

But fortunately, there is no need to study how it works or anything like that, these are just finished drawings, and you can do it after you have thoroughly designed it. Otherwise, not to mention the final end of this half-level level, even if it is handed over to the Chinese Academy of Sciences, it is blind, and the core technology is not so easy to crack.

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Back at the end of the building, Su was still confused, should he make his own products, or should he make OEM for others first?

The foundry market is also good, he checked, last year's global wafer foundry sales were almost 50 billion US dollars, but it is also a piece of fat, even Intel has put down its body to OEM, what can he dislike? And it's also great to be able to grab some business with TSMC.

TSMC is a leading company, and it is unlikely that it will be crushed, but it is still possible to grab some business! Every time I think of TSMC, Su thinks of the arrogant compatriots he met on his last trip.

"Zhang Yan, what is the account password of the company's Weibo?" Su asked Zhang Yan that he remembered that the company had certified several media accounts not long ago, and it had gained more than one million fans in just one month. This is a platform for direct communication with fans, whether it is scolding or boasting, you can know what users like or hate here.

"Do you want Mr. Su to open your own account?" Zhang Yan mentions, even she has been certified, and she has more than one million fans, even more than the company's good fans, which is an embarrassing situation.

"Hmm...... It's good. Mr. Su turned on the computer and registered a number for himself. But for low-key considerations, I didn't use my real name, just gave a random nickname, only filled in the 'final general manager' on my personal information, and handed over the certification to Zhang Yan to do.

I took a photo of the wafer with my mobile phone, sent it up, and commented: "The 12-inch wafer has just been made, beautiful, right?" ”

sent, refreshed twice, but embarrassed to find that he didn't have a fan, and it was even more impossible to reply to anything. It wasn't until Zhang Yan paid attention to him and forwarded it with his own number and the company's number that the embarrassing scene was reversed

(To be continued......) R1292