On the afternoon of the 6th, Chu Qing met Zhang Xianmin for the first time.

Thin, the mouth is a little crooked, the eyes are small, and the eyebrows are very light, like two white hairs inserted diagonally at the top of the nose bone. He originally had a generous face, but because of these eyebrows, he showed a bit of loneliness.

If Chu Qing is now the flag of the independent film industry, then Zhang Xianmin is an old cannon in the nineties. In theory, planning and substance, he has greatly promoted the development of independent films in China.

They have been known to each other for a long time, but they have never had a chance to meet, but now because it is an official point, and Mr. Zhang is very familiar with those people in the scene, he was invited to reconcile, and it was Jia Zhangke who was the matchmaker.

Things were not as expected, I was called to the film bureau, crackled and reprimanded, and then bowed down and made small. The other party actually made an appointment outside, which is interesting.

In informal occasions, it's always not good to be too strict.

This place is an old teahouse in the capital, and the door face is not obvious, but where to sit, the yellow belt is full of extravagance, and it is bright.

Zhang Xianmin looked at the young lady in a white cheongsam and warmed the pot to run tea, and half-jokingly taught the juniors:

"Please Yamen Bureau, you have to know in your heart, the four halls of the public and commercial tax law, you must go to a private and luxurious place, that is called the clubhouse. But like us, we all belong to the literary and artistic circles, so we pay attention to what we want to talk about, and we drink wine and eat meat, so we have to drink tea. ”

"Oh, you said 4☆ yes."

Chu Qingzhen didn't know what to reply, so he had to keep responding.

"Jia Zhangke called me yesterday, and when I heard it, I got it! It's still the same old routine, they haven't grown up for so many years, they pull it with their left hand and press it with their right hand. ”

Teacher Zhang suddenly became interested and said with a smile: "If you want to talk about you people, Zhang Yuan used to be a leader. It's completely unclear what I'm doing. Lou Ye went further and further, and ran to the dark. Wang Xiaoshuai should be more down-to-earth, but unfortunately the pattern is insufficient...... and Jia Zhangke, that is, a gangster who is good, not only from Liang, but also goes straight to the nobility. Now I want to go to his movie posterity, but I can't count it on both hands, and I'm bored! ”

He threw a piece of rose lard wine cake in his mouth and continued: "But you are good, what was it like in "Xiao Wu". What is it like now, can hold on, and can bow your head, this is the long-term mix. ”

"Uh, can't I help it?" Chu Qing said embarrassedly.

"Hey, don't feel ashamed, there's definitely no shame in bowing your head."

Zhang Xianmin was very indifferent and said: "Just like me, of course I want artistic freedom. But that's the ideal state, and there are too many restrictions in all aspects. I am also praising "Yellow River Love" here, and scolding Feng Xiaoning over there, which is not contradictory. It's the same with personality. Everyone wants to be 100% free, but it's impossible, we can only choose a degree of freedom when we can choose. You just have to remember one thing. Don't do anything that is completely unfree. ”

“……”

After listening to this, Chu Qing tasted it silently. Really.

In 2000, the official recruited him to draw a line with those people, and he felt that he had no choice.

In 2003, the boss changed his strategy and only asked him to hold a show, and he was not to blame for the past, but now there was a loosening.

Because arrogance and acting against conscience are not the same bottom line category.

There were very few people in the teahouse, and the two chatted for a while, about three o'clock, Chu Qing estimated that it was almost over, so he asked the waiter to remove the whole set and fill it again.

Don't look at the small plates and bowls, just these two tables, at least a few thousand yuan.

Sure enough, ten minutes later, I heard someone downstairs greeting: "Sir, please come here!" Then came the sound of the slump going upstairs.

The two turned their heads and saw that it was a man in his fifties, wearing a gray short-sleeved shirt with a smile on his face, which was not as old-fashioned as he imagined.

Yo!

Zhang Xianmin was very surprised, he thought that it would be almost enough to have a director, but he didn't want to brush directly to the deputy bureau. However, this also shows that that that there is not the stability on the surface, and Chu Qing is quite important.

The person who came was called Wu Ke, who used to be the number one in a certain place, and was promoted after the change. At the beginning, he gave Jia Zhangke a lecture, saying that if we don't care about you, no one will care about you.

And he also saw Zhang Xianmin, but his expression was not surprised, and said with a smile: "Lao Zhang, I knew that I had a share of you!" ”

"Haha, how are you doing?" Teacher Zhang replied.

"That's it."

He turned his head, stretched out his hand and said, "Xiao Chu, I have admired the name for a long time." ”

"Hello, I don't dare to be."

Chu Qing bowed slightly, in fact, before coming over today, he still thought that it was the posture of the three sessions, but at the moment, it was not like that.

Saying that, the three of them sat down, Wu Ke looked at the tea and snacks on the table, and couldn't help but say: "Sweet with green, sour with red, melon seeds with oolong, you are quite authentic." ”

"Hey, whatever you want." Teacher Zhang obviously has a friendship with this person, and his words are more casual.

Wu Ke glanced at him and asked again, "Xiao Chu, what have you been busy with lately?" ”

"Well, I'm filming in Hong Kong, I just finished a film, and I will shoot "Infernal Affairs 3" and "Eros" in the second half of the year. Oh, "Eros" is a new film directed by Wang Jiawei. "The thing was honest.

"It's busy."

The other party nodded and said, "Hey, if I'm not mistaken, you went out in May, right?" ”

"Well, it's been more than three months, and I just came back."

"It's good to work hard, but this is home, and I have to come back to filming."

"Hehe, it must be."

……

A few people chatted for a long time, without a word of business. Of course, there may have been, but it was contained in the words, and he didn't hear it.

And it was mainly Zhang Xianmin who was chatting with him, and he interjected from time to time and poured tea for the two gentlemen by the way.

"How's it going, what's the news lately?" Teacher Zhang asked casually as he swallowed the dried fruit.

"The word wind is very bad, you put yourself in a position to be swept away, which often makes us very passive." Wu Ke retorted.

"Yo, keep pace with the times, okay, it's not called sweeping, it's called purging."

"Hey, don't button your hat indiscriminately, I don't have any prejudice against independent films, I'm just in my position and have to do something."

Wu Ke hurriedly waved his hand, suddenly turned to the other side, and asked, "By the way, Xiao Chu, you have been in contact with a lot, I really want to hear what you think about independent films?" ”

“……”

Chu Qing couldn't help but be stunned, first glanced at Zhang Xianmin, and when he saw that the other party nodded lightly, he organized his language and said:

"Well, first of all, I think that underground films and independent films are two different concepts, underground films are political attributes, and independent films are capital attributes. An independent film is by no means a vassal elegance, nor is it a movie that no one watches. It should be the kind of film that has no capital promotion and lacks universal attention. ”

"There is a misconception about independent films in China, thinking that they are all banned, and there are quite a few people who are keen on this. When he heard about a movie that was banned, he ran over to watch it, and then there was a phenomenon that the more it was banned, the more popular it became. In fact, these people don't care, because it's too easy to lose. ”

"Some people say that independent movies are not good-looking, dull, and incomprehensible, but there are indeed many of them. But what is strange to me is that everyone has a high tolerance for bad commercial movies, but very little tolerance for bad literary movies. It seems that if you make a literary film, you must have a high level and high level, otherwise you don't want to play this and waste our ticket money. I don't quite understand where this logic is, and I think it's scary. ”

"I've been in Hong Kong for a long time, and they started out with commercial films, but they also had specialised arthouse cinemas and they had very high attendance.

Of course, there is a sequence of this, the commercial film market has not yet been developed, so it is unrealistic to rush the audience to watch literary films. Because the audience's aesthetics should be cultivated slowly, most people like to watch blockbusters, and I like it too, if you want me to spend money to watch a literary film, I'm not interested.

Only when the commercial film market reaches saturation, or even exceeds capacity, will the audience have a personality and choose to say, oh, I am willing to support this film, it is very good. ”

"But it's not that independent film doesn't need to be developed now, but it needs to be protected more, because its consciousness is a higher level, and the more because of this, the more space must be given to it to grow. So, I think ......"

He paused, looked at Wu Ke, and continued: "I think we should at least give us a chance to talk on an equal footing, and respect each other's opinions, so as to help solve the problem." ”

“……”

There was a moment of silence.

Zhang Xianmin was full of surprise, in front of others, he dared to say such a thing, and he was properly impressed.

As for Wu Ke, his expression has not changed much, and he still looks leisurely.

I saw him drink a cup of tea, exhaled again, and suddenly said: "Okay, Xiao Chu, you go back and prepare a document for applying for exit, and send it to the bureau as much as possible." ”

"Huh? Good. The topic jumped too fast, and Chu Qing was more blindsided.

Zhang Xianmin pondered some taste and smiled strangely.

Then there was a moment of silence, the air conditioner seemed to be blowing a little cold, Wu Ke tugged at the collar, and suddenly sighed: "I told Zhang Yuan and Jia Zhangke before, and I will tell you again today, don't blame us for many things, policies are changing, ideologies have to change, we are very embarrassed!" ”

Before Chu Qing could answer, Mr. Zhang complained first: "Yes, yes, your embarrassment is how to embarrass us." ”

"Tsk!"

The other party was not angry, pointed at him and scolded with a smile: "You guys, you will die if you take care of it, and you will go crazy if you don't care!" What do you let us do? ”

……

A few people sat straight until the sun was eccentric, and then the game ended.

Chu Qing never figured out whether he had passed the test or passed it, and he couldn't ask in detail. The most annoying thing is these people, who don't speak clearly, and they are always covered with clouds and mountains.

But Zhang Xianmin was very optimistic and said that he would be fine.

Of course, neither of them knew that after Wu Ke came out, he called Tong Gang as soon as he got in the car, and the approximate meaning was just one word:

"Yes."

(There is also a ...... at night (To be continued......)