"Your Majesty, the Manchu Qing Dynasty is in the front, and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is in the back. If, as Your Majesty said, I caught the son of Hong Xiuquan who ascended the throne after his death when I was a subordinate of the Manchu Dynasty, I would definitely be executed by Ling Chi. Because if the child's life is spared, it is to admit the sin of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom rebellion and not die. As a minister of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, I must not make such a judgment. Shen Baozhen replied calmly.

"Oh." Wei Ze nodded slightly. Shen Baozhen's reasoning is also quite reasonable.

Seeing that Wei Ze seemed to be a little moved, Shen Baozhen struck while the iron was hot, and he continued: "The civil dynasty established by Your Majesty is different, the Manchu Dynasty is in the front, and the Civil Dynasty is in the back, and Your Majesty's killing of the little emperor is just a gesture. But if Your Majesty does not kill, the people left behind in the previous dynasty will feel that Your Majesty is benevolent and have more confidence in Your Majesty. Not to mention the little emperor of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, if the little emperor of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom falls into the hands of His Majesty, will His Majesty be killed? ”

"Hehe...... I see." Weser smiled, he finally understood a little bit of what the history books were written about. It's really anything that comes to their mouths, and they can say a word.

The more Zuo Zongtang listened, the more he felt that something was wrong, when he followed Wei Ze, Wei Ze was already 32 years old. At the age of 28, Wei Ze, who single-handedly seized the south of the Huai River and became the emperor, could never be a person without personality. Weeser wasn't stubborn, he was just extremely determined. The attitude of talking to Shen Baozhen like this is not the attitude that Wei Ze really discusses with others. Zuo Zongtang has always had a high opinion of Shen Baozhen, so he hopes that Shen Baozhen can come out to serve the country. Up to now, Wei Ze was still willing to chat with Shen Baozhen for a while, but Zuo Zongtang, who had been Wei Ze's secretary, really didn't see any signs that Wei Ze wanted to give Shen Baozhen a chance.

Shen Baozhen is also worthy of being educated by Confucianism, and seeing that Wei Ze has the intention of continuing to listen, he continued to speak in a righteous manner, "Your Majesty, the Manchu Qing Dynasty has fallen, and there is nothing wrong with Your Majesty not using the old Manchu ministers. But I think that His Majesty is too harsh for not using scholars. ”

Hearing this, Wei Ze laughed twice, "Our new government is full of knowledgeable and educated people, and it is impossible to get the corresponding opportunities without the corresponding academic qualifications." ”

Zuo Zongtang sighed greatly in his heart, Wei Ze's words were actually the truth, but when he heard the ears of the Confucian disciples, it was undoubtedly an expression of weakness. Faced with Confucian disciples like Shen Baozhen saying these words, Wei Ze seemed to want Shen Baozhen to come out and jump. Zuo Zongtang actually knew very well that Shen Baozhen was afraid that he would have to come out to jump.

The new government adopted a civil service system that was ostensibly similar to the imperial examination, and when Zuo Zongtang got his current status, he certainly knew that the provisions of the civil service system stipulated, "Those who had served as officials in the Manchu Qing Dynasty were not allowed to take the examination." Immediate family members who had served as officials in the Manchu Qing Dynasty were not allowed to take the examination unless they had voluntarily joined the government of the liberated government before 1858. ”

This kind of clear regulation has offended the "scholars" of the whole world. However, the Liberation Party has made steady efforts to cultivate and implement education for all, and has not violently expanded the liberated areas. So the life of the scholars is not easy, and the new government does not lack enough managers. Scholars refuse to be soldiers or workers, and although they are so-so in farming, they are not as good as farmers. In these years, they could not get into the labor system of the Guangfu Party, and the status of scholars plummeted, and even the peasants looked down on them. Shen Baozhen has been staying at home, and it will be very difficult to think about it. After seeing Weese, it was strange that he didn't speak.

Sure enough, Shen Baozhen said: "Your Majesty, you don't need Confucianism now, I think this is very inappropriate." ”

"Are you talking about Confucianism a person who believes in the teachings of Confucius?" Weeser asked.

Shen Baozhen is also a person who wants to make a face, and after being robbed by Wei Ze like this, his face is not good-looking. If Wei Ze put Confucius's sentence "Micro tube Zhong, I am sent to the left!" Speaking out, now these scholars dare not say that they are Confucian believers. From any point of view, the comparison between the Manchu Qing and Wei Ze's Min Dynasty is outright Yidi.

But Shen Baozhen was not completely choked, he replied: "Your Majesty, Confucianism is about loyalty to the monarch and patriotism. ”

"Oh? Loyal and patriotic? If Confucianism is loyal and patriotic, then where are there Confucian people now, shouldn't they go to martyrdom? Wei Ze snapped up with interest.

Shen Baozhen was not angry this time, he said seriously: "There is no way and there is a way. His father-in-law, Lord Lin Zexu, beats foreigners, and His Majesty also beats foreigners. His father-in-law, Lord Lin Zexu, is non-smoking, and His Majesty is also non-smoking. It's just that the father-in-law under the defeat and the majesty wins. But with this heart of enriching the country and strengthening the army, and the mind of resisting foreign invasion of China, I don't think there is any difference between my father-in-law and Your Majesty. It's just that His Majesty is wise and martial, and there is a way to win. We are incompetent, and we have more than enough strength but not enough strength. Originally, the reason why Zai Xia fought against His Majesty was because Zai Xia did not have the vision of His Majesty and could not see the reason clearly. But Your Majesty has won today, and the way has been revealed to the world, and I feel that it is a matter of course to serve Your Majesty. ”

"Oh......, that's kind of interesting." Wei Ze didn't hate Shen Baozhen's statement at all, and the person who could be valued by Zuo Zongtang was indeed not a corrupt Confucian.

"I heard Brother Ji Gao say that His Majesty once said that people cannot live in the past, cannot live in the future, can only live in the present. After listening to it, he was extremely impressed, and the son said on the river: The deceased is like a husband! Day and night. What His Majesty said is no different from what Kong Sheng said. There are indeed a lot of scum in Confucianism, and there are naturally all kinds of bastards among the scholars. But as you can see in the countryside, the personnel in His Majesty's government may not be much better than the scholars. In this case, I don't understand why His Majesty's cleverness insists on giving up the scholar. Your Majesty has the grace to listen to so much to say. I also hope that Your Majesty will not hesitate to give advice. Shen Baozhen said calmly, without complaining, it seems that he is still sincere.

For people who are really reasonable, Wei Ze will at most dislike the other party's reasoning, but he will never dislike this kind of person. So he said slowly: "Our people talk about science, so we are popularizing the theory of evolution. Of course, this is a very complex scientific system, there is too much to study, and there is not a lot of arguments to support it. Science is the foundation of the Minchao, and simply put, science can be falsified. For example, our textbooks say that the moon revolves around the earth, and the earth-moon system of the earth and the moon revolves around the sun. And we also have a set of measurements that support our theory, and if you can prove that our measurements are wrong, our data is wrong. You can prove our theory wrong. Science is not right or wrong, but the method of making that view. Do you understand what I say? ”

Weescher's words are brief, but they contain a lot of basic principles. Shen Baozhen could understand every word, but he couldn't understand what it meant at all. The essence of science is to admit that it can be overthrown? What is the purpose of bothering to build a theory that can be overturned? If a person who is engaged in science can make things so complicated, he must have read a book. Shouldn't those who have read books pursue the teacher of eternity?

Listening to Wei Ze's last question, Shen Baozhen shook his head, "I'm stupid, I don't understand." ”

"Very good, Mr. Shen is very honest." Wei Ze praised. "I don't ask you to understand it right now, but this is a general outline, and if you don't talk about it at the beginning, you won't be able to talk about the rest of it. So let me talk about the Manchu people, most of the Manchus are actually Han in blood. When Nurhachi rebelled, he did one thing after seizing the city in the far north, that is, he killed the local people and scholars. What do the Han Chinese who can't read at all know, they are taught that they are Manchus, and then they think they are Manchus. So the Manchu people were created in this way. And the biggest theory we want to overthrow the Manchu Qing is to oppose national oppression, which is the artificial division of different nationalities. In the Manchu era, the Manchus were noble, and the Han people were lower than the Manchus. In the current Republic of China, all people are Chinese nations, or all are called Han people. This Han is your self-perception of the government, and it has nothing to do with anything else. We don't care what your ancestors did or where they came from. We only care whether everyone recognizes themselves as a member of China, whether they are willing to accept the leadership of the government, and whether they can abide by the law. In a sense, this is the world of Datong. ”

This does not involve theory, but Shen Baozhen understands. Hearing the words Datong World, Shen Baozhen's eyes lit up, and he couldn't help but nod again and again.

"Now the little emperor of the Manchu Qing Dynasty thinks that he is a former Qing emperor. Ask for mercy, and since he wants to live in the past, I will send him on his way. The three armies can win the commandery, but the horseman cannot win the ambition. Wei Ze's tone was very relaxed when he talked about the reason for killing the former Qing Emperor, and under the influence of this tone, Shen Baozhen found that he couldn't help but agree with Wei Ze's theory inexplicably.

"As for our government, I admit that there are a lot of problems. A considerable number of civil servants are lazy, inexperienced, and unable to complete their jobs. We also have a headache for these things. We are also trying to correct it. Weeser continued in his usual calm tone.

Hearing that Wei Ze did not insist that the current civil servants are better than the previous literati, Shen Baozhen was also a little surprised. After Wei Ze finished speaking, Shen Baozhen couldn't help but say: "Your Majesty, compared to doing things, these people are indeed much stronger than Manchu officials. Fang is me, Meng Lang, I have already said it. ”

Wei Ze waved his hand to ask Shen Baozhen not to intervene, and he continued: "But if the scholars want to come out and become officials, what is their purpose? The core of the education of our civil servants is that we are to serve the people. You can do it, you can't do it, believe it or not, but the civil service has always been educated in this way. We don't just say this to our team, we say it to the masses across the country. But as for the scholars, they may also be forced to serve the people, but what these people want, they will strive for no matter what, is to be the master of the people. From a political point of view, without them, it has no impact on us, but with them, we have to pay a great price. So I'm not going to allow former students to reappear in the civil service. ”

Listening to what Wei Ze said categorically, completely breaking the possibility of a scholar coming out to be an official, Shen Baozhen almost instinctively popped out a sentence, "Why?" Why don't you have to read people. ”

"Because the people don't care about our theories, as long as they see the old literati come out as officials again, they will feel that the old way of life has returned. The old literati cultivated the land honestly, and the children of the common people were able to go to school, become soldiers, enter factories, and take civil service exams. Only in this way can the people know that the new government is different from the old court. This is not the truth of the literati, this is the truth of the common people! Wei Ze said with a cold judgment, his expression extremely calm.

But in Shen Baozhen's eyes, Wei Ze's expression was even more hideous than that of the ghosts in the Netherworld.