- Okochi's innovation and cups

Source: @Revolution Ji's Du Niang post \ bar @ Feng Hai Liu 86

Although it was posted in the Revolutionary Machine Bar, as the title says, this article will spend a lot of energy analyzing the two works of Lelouch and GC before the Revolutionary Machine, and I think that analyzing these two works is helpful to understand why the plot of the Revolutionary Machine is like this.

Personally, I feel that since the first season of Lelouch, the first floor of Okochi seems to have found a new way for combat animation, and later GC and Revolutionary Machine, he has just been exploring how to further open up this road, and these two works are the guinea pigs who do real on his exploration road. Unfortunately, it seems to me that his subsequent explorations have not been very successful, just as some scientists have worked on their PhD dissertation for the most successful work in their lifetime, and never after that.

What is the new way? To put it simply,It's a group drama that blends school life with real battles.。

School Garden、Battle,Separately,These are probably the two biggest themes in the ACG world.。 Over the years,School stories have been written millions of times,Battle stories have been written millions of times,But it's really rare to have a script that effectively combines the two.。

I won't say much about the story of the school park.,To be clear,The battle here,Must be limited to "real battle"。 This concept is my own creation, which means that it is not a state of "individual individuals or groups fighting in a limited space or a different world isolated from reality" like AB, C3 Rubik's Cube Girl, Xana, Kuroiwa, SAO, and Acceleration World, but refers to a state in which the entire real world is in battle, and even passers-by have a clear understanding of the current situation of the battle, such as the Gundam series, EVA, and Okochi's Lelouch, GC, and Revolutionary Machine. The former is mostly a fantasy setting (in order to achieve isolation from the real world by means such as magic), and the latter is mostly a sci-fi setting.

So what is the fusion of the two? I think it's about putting the protagonist and his classmates in a state of "spending school life as usual.,And consciously involved in the battle.。 Self-consciousness here does not refer to voluntariness, but to having a clear understanding of the status quo.

In this way,You can think about it,Before Lelouch,Is there very little animation that really combines school life with real battles? I took a special look at the hard drive of my anime collection, and I really couldn't find a few.

Muv-luv (TV anime), seed, the protagonist's school life only lasted 1 or 2 episodes before it came to an abrupt end and never returned; Fullmetal Frenzy (except for the section where the amalgam openly attacks the school), Irino's Sky classmates other than the protagonist are almost always unrelated to the fight; EVA and the final weapon of the other girl, although the two states have been parallel for a long time,But for the school life is very thin.。

However, Lelouch is very special.,On the one hand, the protagonist has not departed from the simple and happy school life.,On the other hand, he is involved in the battle in various ways.,And even if the school life is facing the end.,The interpersonal relationships that have accumulated in the school life.、Character, etc., are also brought into the battle.。

For example, Kalian, who has always been comfortable between school students and rebel soldiers, hated Zero because of her longing for Yuffe, glasses girl who joined the empire to develop nuclear weapons, and Ania and other two knights of the round table who once joined the school life in the second season, not to mention Xia Li, who has a bad fate and knows nothing about combat from beginning to end but is deeply involved......

In general, although the plot of R2 is out of control for various reasons, the first floor of Okochi is a pass guò Lulouch presents a possibility, that is, the combination of the three words "school life, real battles, and group dramas", the protagonists are not completely separated from the school, and they participate in or get involved in the battle in various ways, I think, even if Lelouch has been out for so long, this kind of theme is still a very rare idea.

However, what is incomprehensible is that Okochi, who was comfortable with this innovative theme in the first season of Lelouch, suddenly seems at a loss when it comes to GC (GC he is only a sub-series composition, maybe it is not mainly his fault?). ）。

GC's script, saying that there are no highlights, there are. For example, the clip of the death of the sacrificial sister is still good (although it is actually an old episode of ACG), but to put it bluntly, if anyone thinks the script of GC is good, then he must have seen too little in the field of ACG and the field of literature and art in general.

Some people may remember the two OPs of the Persona anime version, which connect various groups and characters through the connection of various actions. And the plot of the story is also extremely delicate, connecting the various characters who appear in the same event, so as to present everyone well.

This is one of the most basic requirements for a successful literary and artistic work, that is, the characters act in the events, the characters and the events should be in the interaction, interweaving, and the development of the interlacing of the inevitable and the accidental, each character involved in the event should have its own thoughts and actions, and the event should not be allowed to serve the character, and the individual character should not be completely led by the event, giving people a feeling of "the world revolves around someone" or "when someone gets off the line, the world will die" (I think, this is also the biggest weakness of online YY novels, It is also known as the fundamental reason for YY novels), and even in some famous novels, the protagonist will seem very powerless in the face of various events, and can only be coerced by the tide of the world.

The first works that come to mind about this are "The Count of Monte Cristo" and "The Quiet Don", and the first season of Lelouch also had such merits.

For example, in the first season, Xia Li, who was uneasy because Lu Lu and Karen often "acted at the same time", was determined to advance the relationship with Lu Lu, and it happened that at this time, Lu Lu Xiu caused a landslide in the Battle of Narita, causing a large number of casualties, and Xia Li's father was also killed. This is where one of the most famous tragic scenes in Lelouch is born (of course, the saddest is the death of Princess Yuffie, and Yufie's story is also a model of "character interaction to drive events forward").

In this story, the actions of the different characters from beginning to end lead to different events, which are connected by various accidents and inevitabilities (there is also a foreshadowing of a series of stories between Xia Li attacking the white-haired woman and directing her and Lelouch's subordinate commander), which in turn affect the further actions of the characters themselves. And in the context of the play, these events are both in line with the character of the characters and in line with the general logic

This is a good script, and you can see that the characters have their own thoughts, the world has its own rules, why character A does what he does, how does it affect character B, how does character B react, and so on, and so on.

And in the crown, because I felt too when I watched it, I really couldn't think too much, but there were many episodes of events in my impression, and it gave people the feeling that it was completely "in order to show someone's nihilistic ability (heart),So this incident happened", for example, the episode of the wheelchair girl's nihilistic ability, it seems that there is an episode of a certain classmate of the male protagonist, and it makes people feel after watching it:

1. This event happened so precisely that it was simply to make someone's void ability shine;

2. The event is over when it is over, and it hardly makes much sense for the development of the main line;

3. After the incident is over, this person will be marginalized, and he will play soy sauce in the future, or come out to end the game after a long time;

4. In the process of the incident, people who are not directly related to it put down their work and watch there......

And these points are all common mistakes made by a bad literary work.

Insert a sentence, the reason why I can insist on reading the crown is completely to see what ending the sister can have, just like watching Dandan, seeing what celestial people and fools and the princess who has no sense of zài in the future, I don't care about it, just to see if the blackened Miss Louise can be whitewashed, and have a good ending (fortunately, she really has a good ending, so touched)

Back to the topic. You can try to use the three key words of "school life + real battle + group drama" to recall Lelouch and the crown, and then look at the current revolutionary machine, many things about the revolutionary machine may be understood.

There are many episodes in the revolutionary machine that have been sprayed as "losing IQ", from the founding of the country at the beginning to the black long straight one on the body belly black to the second, etc., some netizens find reasons for these episodes from the play, I think it's meaningless, many of the bridges in the revolutionary machine are too inconsistent with ordinary people's thinking, simply put, it is indeed a little too off-line.

But from the teleological point of view of "school life + real battle + group drama", you can understand that these bridges were forcibly created by Okochi in order to take into account these three keywords at the same time.

For example, the founding of the country,In this way, the school life is completely preserved.,To be able to participate in the battle as a school student instead of the state of Gundam Seed Kira.; Another example is singing, which is probably a way of "fighting" for the school students in the eyes of Okochi; Another example is that the double ponytail girl hung up unexpectedly (I knew she was dead when I saw her first clip in the seventh episode), which is probably a lesson learned from the crown, that is, a large number of characters dragging to the back will only seem to be dragging in front and rushing in the back, so some people have to leave the scene as soon as possible, plus at present, the world view of the revolutionary machine is not less than Lelouch, so in order to avoid the crazy rush of Lelouch in the second season, it is necessary to advance the plot as much as possible.

If there is no accident,The death of the double ponytail girl will directly lead to the generation of a new driver.,And it's likely to lead to the male protagonist and others to accept or partially accept (partial acceptance is more likely,Because I think completely abandoning school life,It's against the exploration route of Okochi) Gongkou rot about the militarization of the school (exactly the same as the hierarchy in the crown).

However, I am still not optimistic about the future of the revolutionary machine script.

First of all, because of many things that are too off-line in the front, I feel that Okochi still hasn't found the state of Lelouch (probably a good article is really "a clever hand", the more deliberate you are, the more you can't write it), many plots are too deliberate, the purpose is too obvious, and it makes people feel that "this plot was arranged for the sake of expressing someone or a certain meaning" rather than naturally developing into this plot, and I have mentioned a few before, so I won't say it again, specifically, it is that many people say "drop IQ" (I think "off the line" The word is better).

Secondly, because I feel that there are still too many characters - seed is a full 50 episodes, basically 4 people turn or even 2 people turn, if the revolutionary machine really plans to finish the "Golden 7 people", one episode per person will remove 7 episodes. After all, you can't expect every group drama to be as perfect as the rhythm of the Headless Horseman. And now, it has revealed that the screenwriter wants to talk about too many characters to talk about, such as seniors, bad boys, blonde ladies, and computer otaku girls can only go through the motions to show their faces in these episodes (also to maintain a sense of zài), such as the role of Hei Changzhi has been cut since the seventh episode (maybe some people don't think so, but I think her role will be quickly reduced in order to let other people appear)

Again, on the one hand, many plots in front of the revolutionary machine are off the line and rushing to the scene, and the whole plot rhythm is still not optimistic: this plot should be much higher than GC from the grand Cheng dù, not lower than Lelouch, but Lelouch 50 episodes are long, and after the second season, the rush is like a 100-meter sprint (compared to the first season, I still can't remember the entire story line of the second season (because it's too jumpy and too rushed), I only remember that there was an episode in the later part of the second season, and the 4 Knights of the Round Table came up to show their faces. I can't afford to complain), GC is far smaller than the world view of the revolutionary machine, and then it was also desperate to catch up with the plot, if the revolutionary machine only talked about about 24 episodes, I really can't imagine how it would be in a hurry later.