The existence of voice actors has attracted more and more attention nowadays. Recently, a person named Reio Tsuchiya invited two very familiar voice actors, Nochu Blue and Ryoko Shiraishi, to talk about their career experience on his personal talk show.

Reio Tsuchiya (hereafter Tsuchiya): Today's theme is "voice actors", so we invited two popular voice actors, and they talked about why they became voice actors. Why did you make your debut as a singer as a voice actor? What is the image of the future development of voice actors? And various contents about the inside story of the voice actor industry. Well, today's guests are Miss Nonaka Blue and Miss Ryoko Shiraishi. Today, I would like to ask you for your advice!

Ryoko Shiraishi (hereafter Shiraishi): Please advise!

Nochu Blue (hereinafter Nonaka): Please advise!

◇The voice actor is to fully control the ON/OFF switch

Tsuchiya: The relationship between the two of them in the office is also between the seniors and the juniors. So who are the seniors?

Nonaka: I, Nonaka is a senior.

Shiraishi: It seems that I belong to the juniors. What do you think about this (laughs)?

Tsuchiya: Honestly, I think it should be the other way around (laughs). So in this industry, is the relationship between the upper and lower levels very strict?

Nonaka: What do you think? The younger sister of Shiraishi!

Shiraishi: Huh!? Am I set up this kind of character (laughs)? It's strict, but compared to other particularly vertical societies, I think it's pretty good. After all, there is no such overly intimate relationship as "everyone is friends".

Nonaka: yes! I feel like the voice actor will fully grasp the ON/OFF switch. When you enter the industry, if you go to dinner with ordinary people, you will find it very troublesome.

Shiraishi: Anyway, I order alcohol and food...... When it comes to dinner, we don't have the choice of "not going".

Nonaka: No, no. A must go.

Shiraishi: I don't go there sometimes (laughs).

Nonaka: (laughs).

Shiraishi: So, I don't have the idea of "this, that" for my juniors, but I don't know what my seniors think of me...... Do you feel "willful" and "this guy is really free and loose"? That's why I think, "It's really a shame to get to where you are today, it's not easy." ”

Nonaka: (laughs).

◇The biggest opportunity is "Neon Genesis Evangelion"

Tsuchiya: I don't know much about anime, so I just watched Dragon Ball. But I have a son, so I'm familiar with works like Anpanman, and that's pretty much it. So, could you please tell us about your representative roles?

Nonaka: Kyoko Sakura from "Madoka Magi☆ Magic", etc.

Shiraishi: Ayasaki from "The Whirlwind Butler".

Nonaka: Also, I also starred as a wish fulfillment star in "Anpanman".

Tsuchiya: Oh! It's a wish star fulfillment star! Sorry, I just know the level of Anpanman.

Shiraishi: What ...... Didn't appear in "Anpanman" (laughs). In addition, he has voiced some foreign works and starred in games.

Tsuchiya: I'm sorry I don't know much about this. However, some of the names of the works are still known! Voice actors have become a culture now. I think there are a lot of young people who admire voice actors. It seems that the two of them have been working hard for more than ten years to become voice actors, so please tell us how they got to where they are today.

Nonaka: I really wanted to get in touch with the role of Kurama in "Yuyu Hakusho", so I started learning acting!

Shiraishi: I feel that your cousin is inexplicably cute (laughs).

Nonaka: I joined the local theater troupe, and then I joined the drama club.

Shiraishi: I really like anime, so I watched Yuyu Hakusho too, but the biggest opportunity for me was Shinji-kun Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion. Mr. Rei, what is your impression of the voice actor profession?

Tsuchiya: Voice actor, I think it's great. After all, you can't become a voice actor by voice alone, and it's not a simple profession. Let's sing very well, too. Speaking of which, are there any people who are not good at singing?

Nonaka: Raise your hand! Here's one! (laughs). However, fans praised it for having "charm".

Shiraishi: After all, we're voice actors. I feel that singing as a voice actor is a kind of value.

Tsuchiya: The pronunciation practice of voice actors is very similar to singing.

Shiraishi: It's the same in the case of voice training anyway. Abdominal breathing, etc.

Nonaka: Also, everyone's ears are very sensitive, right?

Shiraishi: Ah!! Probably yes. When we say our lines, we think about what to express to the audience, so that we can express it. The director and the sound director will make some very detailed requests, and then they need to respond in an instant. Maybe it's because we're able to tell the difference between smiles, so we seem to have "very sensitive ears."

Nonaka: When dubbing an exterior painting (a foreign movie), you need to listen carefully to the voices of the actors in the original and then approach the other person's style.

Shiraishi: Yes.

Tsuchiya: I'm sorry, but what do you mean by "sound director" and "exterior painting"?

Shiraishi: A sound director is a person who directs acting during dubbing.

Nonaka: There is also the addition of BGM and sound to the work.

Shiraishi: People who work between actors and directors.

Nonaka: Exterior paintings are foreign films. Is this an industry term?

Tsuchiya: Hey! Wasn't it directed directly by the director?

Shiraishi: Yes. There are also works in which the director himself is a sound director.

◇I'm also happy to play roles other than humans, such as little monkeys and the like

Tsuchiya: After seeing both of them, I felt like they were both beautiful women, so was there a case where someone was complimented on their good looks because of their status as voice actors?

Shiraishi: Thank you very much, I'm very happy. I am happy to be a human (laugh).

Nonaka: Thank you very much. I feel happy as a woman (laughs).

Shiraishi: Oh, but the voice actor doesn't use his face to voice the characters (laughs). I'm a woman, but I'm a voice actor who can voice male characters and magicians, and I guess being able to play roles that are completely different from my appearance is my advantage as a voice actor, so I'm glad that I was happy about that.

Nonaka: Well, that's it! It's nice to be able to play a non-human role like a little monkey.

Tsuchiya: Seriously, people who are voice actors nowadays will be hired because they are good-looking, even if they are not technically good-looking, right?

Shiraishi: Recently, there have been a lot of idol works singing and dancing, and voice actors are also holding concerts, so I think there is a need for people who are young and cute and have good shapes.

Nonaka: In this sense, the door to the voice actor industry is wider than ever.

Tsuchiya: Both of you entered this world because you have your favorite anime, so how did you become voice actors?

Nonaka: I entered Seijijuku's training center, Seiji Juku Tokyo Campus.

Shiraishi: I'm Osaka Shoku. I saw an advertisement in the newspaper for "voice actor debut", and I kept thinking, "I really want to go to the audition." And as fate would have it, I entered Seii Juku, so I joined the firm.

Tsuchiya: If you want to become a voice actor, the best shortcut to the training center is it?

Shiraishi: Hmm...

Nonaka: There are now not just training centers, but there are also various ways to do so, so I don't think we can generalize.

Tsuchiya: The two of them also participated in some idol events and made their debut as singers, so did they have a dream of this from the beginning? Or have you been a voice actor all the time, and when you come back to your senses, you find that you've started to do these things?

Shiraishi: When I was a child, I was a big admirer of the child stars and idols on TV. But to be as dazzling as they are, I think it's a little cowardly. When I was in the fifth grade of elementary school, I thought that if I became a voice actor, I would not feel shy if I only had a voice and not show my face. It's such a childish superficial idea anyway.

Nonaka: On the contrary, I'm not interested in idol events at all. I wanted to work in animation acting, so I got into the industry. So, when I needed to make my debut as a singer, I was confused (laughs).

(A photo broke out at the scene)

Nonaka: Yikes!

Shiraishi: Wait (laughs)!

Tsuchiya: Oh, it's an idol!!!!

Nonaka: These are all photos from more than 10 years ago!!

Shiraishi: Oh, it was really cute at that time (laughs).

Nonaka: On the far left is Tomoko Kaneda, who has been making a lot of noise!

Shiraishi: It's a lot of fun to put together. Even now, I still want to do a combination. I want to dance! But now I don't think I can wear the costume I wore when I made my debut song (laughs).

◇I'm still the type of "no one who comes".

Tsuchiya: So how did the two decide on their debut?

Shiraishi: At that time, I was a voice actor on the radio show, and then I formed a group with the new people who auditioned. That's a combination called "pasuteru".

Nonaka: One day when I was at the office, my manager said, "I've decided on a radio show about you," and he said, "You're going to sing the show's theme song and make your debut." "(laughs) This is how I made my debut as a singer.

Shiraishi: After "pasuteru", I made my solo debut with a group called DROPS. The photo just now is from the DROPS period.

Tsuchiya: From the agency's point of view, in order for voice actors to become famous, do you first make them idols or singers, so as to increase their popularity?

Shiraishi: I can't say that this is the case, but it should be considered a strategy.

Tsuchiya: If a singer makes his debut, will his income increase?

Shiraishi: In terms of combinations, there are a lot of situations due to publicity......

Nonaka: If it's thought to be just publicity, then you won't get a prize...... (laughs).

Tsuchiya: It feels so realistic!

Nonaka: On the contrary, I have to worry about costumes. It's clear that you won't give more money, but if you want to increase exposure, the money to buy clothes is a big problem, and it's all tears.

Shiraishi: That's it! In the beginning, I would buy some fancy clothes that I wouldn't normally wear (laughs). Later, I slowly learned to be obedient and began to choose some clothes that I could wear on a regular basis.

Nonaka: yes, yes (laughs).

Tsuchiya: So when did you pay for it yourself?

Duo: The same is true now!

Tsuchiya: Hey!

Shiraishi: However, there is more and more compensation in terms of hairstyling.

Nonaka: It's getting a lot.

Tsuchiya: I see. In the age of idols, it's hard for everyone to deal with the voice actor industry at the same time, right? So did you think about it, but you really wanted to be a voice actor?

Nonaka: Well~~~~~~~ I'm a voice actor, but sometimes I'm treated like an idol when I'm asked to say, "Please wear a maid's costume." I'm still a little troubled by this.

Shiraishi: I'm quite a person who doesn't refuse to come. The voice actor himself isn't too busy to die, so if there's a chance for me to do something else, then I'm happy. It's hard, but it's fun, and I can take a lot of photos, which feels like my growth diary (laughs).

Tsuchiya: Miss Shiraishi's phrase "I'm too busy to die" is quite a pure man's breath (laughs).

Shiraishi: Ahaha. I feel like even if I am an idol (?) At that time, I was still "voice actor Ryoko Shiraishi", so I didn't distinguish that much. It's very happy, after all, you can wear clothes that you don't usually wear, and take pictures under the praise of others for being "cute and cute...... bar.

Nonaka: Sigh (laughs).

Shiraishi: It makes me feel young.

Nonaka: I'm embarrassed about that.

Shiraishi: Really? Do you feel embarrassed?

Nonaka: After all, I didn't enter the industry for this.

Shiraishi: But in times like "Yuyu Hakusho", you also need to sing character songs, right? So I thought that if I became a voice actor, I would like to be able to sing character songs.

Tsuchiya: Miss Nonaka hated singing at first...... But idols are also a kind of performance, right? Just like a voice actor, you need to create a character.

Nonaka: In a sense, there is an element of performance. I love Takarazuka opera, so I'm more or less aware of it, so let's try to act with the right program...... (laughs).

Shiraishi: Like you want everyone to see your dreams?

Nonaka: yes, you can't destroy your dreams.........! It's not a dream, but it's not a dream (laughs).

Shiraishi: I like the messy genre. I'm a voice actor who requires acting, but I'm not good at lying......

Nonaka: I'm not lying, either (laughs).

Shiraishi: (laughs) I'm not very good at catering to other people's requests to "show us such a table." That's why I prefer to mess around.

Nonaka: I don't even think about what other people want to see! Heck, it's not about charging for admission (laughs).

Tsuchiya: Admission fee (laughs).

Nonaka: I said that if I didn't have the money, I wouldn't be able to do the show, but I didn't mention it (laughs).

◇During the performance, I thought that the mood of the characters should be fully conveyed to the audience

Tsuchiya: I just asked about the voice actor's persistence, and when I interviewed Ms. Noriko Hidaka, I complimented her at the time, saying, "No matter which role you play with, you can immediately think, 'Ah, this is Hidaka method!'" That's a great thing! "But actually, such an assessment is rude, isn't it?

Nonaka: Ah, how do you say that?

Tsuchiya: What do you two think?

Nonaka: It's easy for people to say that.

Shiraishi: I've been talked about a lot.

Nonaka: I didn't like it before, but now I'm happy.

Shiraishi: After all, the audience clearly recognized our voices. Able to distinguish the voices of Ryoko Shiraishi and Nochu Blue......

Nonaka: After all, it's recognized.

Tsuchiya: So are there any things about the two of you as voice actors?

Nonaka: I'm still very immature technically, so I thought it would be nice to be able to convey the emotions of the characters to the audience.

Shiraishi: When I was dubbing a boy's character, I thought about playing the boy well. I especially care about the ending words. How to say...... Similar to the way you breathe, right? Also, I'm from Kansai, so I'm very concerned about the strength of my tone.

Tsuchiya: The tone is strong and weak! So will the two of them deliberately make the staff like themselves?

Shiraishi: I don't want to be hated by the staff (laughs). I'm not used to being liked, but I also think that I can't be hated.

Nonaka: Is that positive or negative?

Shiraishi: I guess I'm not good at being coquettish. It's not good to see the wind and rudder or something. It belongs to the cute and useless type.

Nonaka: I'm useless! If you have a little light, you should be able to make it redder.

Shiraishi: (laughs).

Tsuchiya: So who is the cute and reliable voice actor?

Nonaka: Who do you think it is?

Tsuchiya: Ask me, that's cunning (laughs).

Shiraishi: But, what about the blue sauce...... That kind of "here!" It's now! It's famous.

Nonaka: It's scary, it's scary (laughs). Don't sell me here~!

Tsuchiya: Actually, that's how I feel (laughs).

Shiraishi: When I look at Blue Sauce, I feel like my heart is moving! So, if I'm with Blue Sauce, it looks like I'm a gentleman, after all, everyone thinks "Blue Sauce is so cute~"

Nonaka: Got it! As long as I'm with you, I'll be coquettish with confidence, right?

Shiraishi: (laughs).

◇ On the contrary, the agent will persuade us to fall in love

Tsuchiya: Even the "players" with 10 years of experience say that they are far behind, so what is it that makes the two of them feel that "if they do it, they will get ahead"?

Shiraishi: What...... Narrating live on the morning news?

Nonaka: And there's a report! Felt very independent!

Tsuchiya: To get ahead is to be a narrator?

Shiraishi: Even if you get stuck, you can do it all over again, but if you do it live, the sound when you get stuck will be broadcast directly from the TV, so it's hard to get ahead of yourself. And there's no certainty that "after a few years as a voice actor, you'll be able to reach this level!" ”

Nonaka: But if you can do this in your career, you should be able to get ahead.

Tsuchiya: There should be many directions in the career of a voice actor, but what kind of models will they use?

Shiraishi: Yes, someone was recommended to be a sound director.

Nonaka: There are also those who become teachers at the training center...... There are also some who retire as an opportunity to get married.

Shiraishi: Lately, I feel like there are a lot of people going to stage plays.

Nonaka: Ah, that's right!

Tsuchiya: Speaking of which, are you two married?

Shiraishi: I want to get married!! (PS: Actually, Ryoko Shiraishi was married in 2012, but the divorce was announced the following year)

Nonaka: Of course! I want to choose a male who is not a voice actor, so I wonder if there is anyone around you who can introduce you (laughs)?

Shiraishi: That's good!

Tsuchiya: Don't you like people in the same industry?

Shiraishi: I guess I thought about it at first. But I don't understand! Don't know what to expect...... Right!

Nonaka: I didn't think about it. It's just that who knows what will happen (laughs)!

Tsuchiya: Is there a saying that marriage is forbidden when you are young? I have a friend who is married to a voice actor, but it is said that the news has been kept under wraps.

Nonaka: What a tough question!!

Shiraishi: Well, I think 30 years old is a benchmark.

Nonaka: If a voice actor over the age of 30 gets married, he will be blessed by everyone, and that's a trend.

Shiraishi: Hey, we'......

Nonaka: Huh??

Tsuchiya: Huh?

Nonaka: On the contrary, it was the agent who persuaded us to fall in love.

Shiraishi: Because we played a lot of roles, we were said to be "fertilizer for art."

◇I want to appear in "Yuyu Hakusho"~ (laughs)

Tsuchiya: Do you have an idea of what direction you want to go from here?

Shiraishi: I want to work for the rest of my life, so I don't plan to quit my job when I get married.

Nonaka: I want to be like Ms. Noriko Hidaka. On the one hand, she is a good mother, and on the other hand, she is active in the front line of work, which is so admirable.

Tsuchiya: Do you change your roles as you get older?

Shiraishi: It's going to change. Now there are more and more characters who are like big sisters, or characters who are about the same age as themselves and have a mature feminine atmosphere.

Nonaka: I've already played the role of a mother or an aunt.

Tsuchiya: Do you have any works that you would like to appear in?

Nonaka: I want to appear in "Yuyu Hakusho"~ (laughs).

Shiraishi: Sometimes it's time to audition for an animated movie character, but when the list is announced, it turns out that it's an artist, and that's when it's hard to get a blow (laughs).

Nonaka: That's why you complain, "Isn't that a long time ago?" "Then why are we going to audition?" (laughs).

Tsuchiya: Entertainer! How do you say that, from a professional point of view, what are the voice acting skills of those artists?

Nonaka: This question is passed! I've heard that you can PASS 3 questions today!

Shiraishi: (laughs) If you pass like this, you might think that you definitely have an idea (laughs).

Tsuchiya: Speaking of which, do you still want to audition now? It's already been named to star in the hungry, right?

Shiraishi: Although there are cases where people are named, they are mostly auditions.

Nonaka: I felt like I got a notice that the office was going to audition for this role, so I went to participate.

Shiraishi: That's right, the first hurdle is "5 people selected from the transaction".

Tsuchiya: Well, then there's a 1 in 5 chance?

Nonaka: Wrong! Other firms will also send people, so the chances are even lower.

Shiraishi: Sometimes we audition in groups of 100 people.

Tsuchiya: Units of 100 people!!

Shiraishi: After all, when you ask for "5 people from the business", maybe none of the 5 people selected will fit the role. On the other hand, there are cases where the producer asks "please ask Miss Shiraishi to audition for this role". If you are invited to audition by the producer, then it is even more exciting.

Tsuchiya: Speaking of the many auditions, is it easier for people with different voices to get jobs?

Shiraishi: It doesn't have much to do with the variety of voices. It depends on whether the voice matches the character. There are also some other balancing considerations.

Nonaka: After all, when the actual dubbing is done, a lot of people enter the scene together, so the producer will also consider balance to determine the candidates.

Shiraishi: Also, there are cases where you lose the cast but are chosen to voice another character. Sometimes you are asked to "please read this line" and then read the lines of the other characters during the audition. In addition, there will also be a chance to get the voice of the characters who will appear later, which is very "LUCKY".

Tsuchiya: Speaking of which, what is the pass rate?

Shiraishi: My pass rate is pretty bad. The worst thing was in 2013~14, and all the auditions I participated in hung up!

Nonaka: I'm not low, either.

Tsuchiya: With such a low pass rate, this is no longer as simple as a pit...... Speaking of which, is this the same when it comes to dubbing foreign films? Does this aspect have to be close to the actor's own voice, such as Sigourney Weaver's voice?

Shiraishi: There are different situations for foreign films, but there are auditions.

Nonaka: Foreign films are easier to decide by the similarity of the sound, right?

Shiraishi: This varies depending on the work. Sometimes it's just based on sound fit, and sometimes it's completely different. In the case of foreign films, there are cases where the audition is sent to the country and the staff there can judge. So I don't know what criteria to judge it on. Don't be depressed anyway.

Nonaka: Yes, but I'm always disappointed.

Tsuchiya: I'm going to lose it. It's really hard work......

Shiraishi: However, if you're lucky enough to adapt the game you're participating in into an anime, or a new series of previous anime, or animate a radio drama CD, then it's only natural that you'll get a job. Unexpectedly, I broadened my field of work.

Nonaka: And now there are a lot of mobile games, so I'm happy.

◇Whether it's a relationship, club activities, or a relationship with seniors, nothing is useless

Tsuchiya: Well, it's almost over! Now, please introduce them to both. If someone wants to become a voice actor with two goals, where should they start? What should we value?

Shiraishi: It's not me, but if you want to ask, "How do I do that?" Although I have a narrow vision and think, "That's the kind of voice I have, so I can only voice these kinds of characters", but it would be better not to set a range for myself, try more than anything, and try to open up all kinds of new channels to learn more about myself.

Nonaka: When I was younger, I wanted to become a voice actor sooner, but I don't have to be so impatient. If you want to be an idol voice actor, it's not a bad idea to start early, but if you decide to become a regular voice actor, I think it's important to improve your charm and experience as a human being.

For students who are aiming for voice actors now, it is more important to do things well in the moment. Whether it's a relationship, a club activity, or a relationship with a senior (laughs), I don't think anything is useless. On the other hand, if older people are hesitant to pursue their dreams, I think that even people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s are still active in the voice actor industry, so don't give up on your dreams.

Shiraishi: I still have a lot of things that I haven't tried yet, and a lot of things that I try for the first time, so I want to open more doors and grow more!

Tsuchiya: Thank you both for your wonderful presentations. So is there anything you would like to tell you?

Nonaka: I'm out of the meme!

Shiraishi: This is a series of emojis created by "つくる女".

Nonaka: We haven't decided on a release date yet, but we've already designed it.

Shiraishi: We've been talking to designers for a long time...... The finished product is very cute~ I should say that it will be very practical, right? I want to be able to be a useful meme.

Nonaka: I want the meme to be used by girls as a virtual synonym for themselves. Just search for "Nochu Blue, Ryoko Shiraishi, and voice actors", and you can find how many emoji packs!

Shiraishi: I think it's a meme with its own characteristics.

Tsuchiya: Thank you both for telling us such good news!

Shiraishi: I want to buy an emoji pack! There are also a lot of projects that I have been involved with Blue Sauce this year, so please look forward to them.

Nonaka: We'll have concerts too!

Shiraishi: Yes, we will be holding a concert in September under the name of "かんぐぅりょっち". In addition, in October, we will try to play for the first time!

Nonaka: Oooo

Tsuchiya: Stage play!

Shiraishi: I'm scared. I haven't even memorized the song completely, so it's okay with the lines......

Nonaka: (laughs). Also, I'm starting to play with Instagram!

Tsuchiya: Instagram! It's trendy!

Nonaka: I'll upload photos of my participation in overseas anime events, so if you don't mind, you can all come and see them.

Shiraishi: In addition, I post various news about my works on Twitter, and of course, there are some daily thoughts, so please check them out. Please follow me!

Tsuchiya: Miss Nonaka, Miss Shiraishi, thank you both for your interview today! We look forward to seeing you two active tables in the future. I also pray to see the two of them dancing!

Nonaka: Thank you very much.

Shiraishi: Thank you very much!

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