Xu Jing said: "Binzhou is the provincial capital, the administrative center of the province, and a consumption-oriented city. Secretary Liu's Ningzhou City, on the contrary, is a production-oriented city dominated by energy and heavy industry, but it is at the upper end of the industrial chain. Binzhou and Ningzhou cannot achieve economic complementarity. ”

Liu Mingrui asked: "What about Yunling City?" ”

Xu Jing said: "Binzhou and Ningzhou are both large economies with an annual GDP of over one trillion yuan, and Yunling City is too small to complement Binzhou and Ningzhou." Therefore, there is an integrated development plan for the four cities, Yunling City, together with Sanshui City, Haizhou City and Qingyang City, the total economic volume can catch up with Binzhou or Ningzhou, and there is the possibility of complementarity. The traditional industries such as agriculture, light industry, and daily use in the four cities are exactly what Binzhou and Ningzhou lack, and the economic balance of the whole province can be realized. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Dad, according to your meaning, our Yunling City is at the lower end of the industrial chain, and will always be at the lower end of the industrial chain." ”

Xu Jinglai said with a smile: "Haodong, that's just the division of labor in the industry. This is related to history and natural environment, for example, Binzhou is the provincial capital, you Yunling can never replace it, this is the life of the city, we humans have to obey. In the same way, the integration of the four cities must be dominated by Yunling City, Qingyang City has no outlet to the sea, Sanshui City and Haizhou City have only 10,000 tons of seaports, and Yunling City has 50,000 tons of natural harbors, and a little investment and expansion can reach 100,000 tons. This is also fate, which determines that in the process of integration of the four cities, Yunling City will definitely become the leading boss. ”

Xu Haodong explained: "Two secretaries, what my father said about life refers to objective conditions, that is, objective laws. That's how he was in class, and he got used to this colloquial saying. ”

Chen Yibo asked: "Professor, aside from all kinds of appearances, what do you think is the economic advantage of Yunling City?" ”

Xu Jing said: "Health, excellence, quality. To cite just one example, Binzhou and Ningzhou each have debts of more than 500 billion yuan, and they rely on borrowing new money to repay the old to get by, and Yunling City not only does not have debts, but also has a financial surplus of nearly 100 billion yuan. Please answer the two secretaries, who will fall first in the event of a financial risk? Who will get up when they fall? The latter of the answer must be Yunling City, which is health, excellence, and quality. ”

Chen Yibo and Liu Mingrui looked at each other, because Xu Jinglai hit the weakness of the two cities, if the two cities were tied together, plus the hidden debts and the debts of the lower-level governments, they would almost exceed 2 trillion yuan.

Liu Mingrui asked, "Professor, do you have a good solution to financial risks?" ”

Xu Jinglai smiled and said: "There is no elixir, and there is no savior, only rely on tradition and repay debts." Just like controlling environmental pollution, it is a debt to future generations, a debt to nature, and the only way to repay it is to take money. Fortunately, Binzhou and Ningzhou have the ability to repay their debts, and they sell more land every year, and the money to repay the debts will be available. ”

Chen Yibo also smiled slightly, "The professor is implicitly criticizing the current land finance, but I like it." ”

Xu Jing said: "Relying on land sales to support development is the same as relying on debt to support development, and it can succeed for a while, but it can never achieve sustainable development." ”

Chen Yibo said: "Seriously agree. ”

Liu Mingrui asked: "Professor, you just mentioned the economic balance of the whole province, why is it not the national economic balance, or the global economic balance?" ”

Xu Jing said: "Because my eyes can only see one Dongjiang Province. ”

Chen Yibo said: "I read an article by the professor, and the professor seems to have reservations about economic globalization. ”

Xu Jinglai nodded, "That's right, because economic globalization is only a goal and a direction to strive for, but it is actually impossible to achieve." ”

Chen Yibo said: "Why? ”

Xu Jing said: "A car, even if it is the most expensive and smartest, must have safety devices such as brakes, airbags, and seat belts. The market economy, even if it is currently the most perfect, has a bottom line, that is, government supervision. Economic globalization, even if there is no ideology, and even if it turns the earth into a country, it has a bottom line, that is, it cannot be strong and strong, let alone weak. ”

Liu Mingrui said: "Therefore, the professor put forward the two concepts of market finity and global economic finity. ”

Xu Jing said: "The words of a family, the words of a family." ”

Chen Yibo said: "However, China's development achievements in the past few decades and its emergence as the world's second largest economy have benefited from economic globalization. ”

Xu Jinglai smiled, "Oh, is it? ”

Chen Yibo followed with a smile, "The professor doesn't agree with this statement? ”

Xu Jing said: "I will never approve of it. Economic globalization is very good, but economic globalization also has both advantages and disadvantages. The so-called strong is because there are no problems yet. There is such a law in this world, the stronger it is, the more fragile it is, and the easier it is to be crushed. ”

Liu Mingrui said: "Professor, you have inspired us very much, can you expand and elaborate." ”

Xu Jinglai didn't say anything at this time.

Chen Yibo and Liu Mingrui wanted to listen, and the two looked at Xu Haodong, hoping that he would let the professor continue.

Xu Haodong has been eating vegetables, and he rarely has the opportunity to drink imported red wine, and a few small glasses of wine have increased his appetite.

Xu Jinglai ate well, "Two, I usually only eat half full, you eat slowly." Don't look at Haodong, I haven't discussed this kind of issue with him, because you are all politicians. Politicians need to think for themselves, I'm just talking about it, and I don't want you to be influenced by my views. ”

With that, Xu Jinglai got up and left the restaurant.

Liu Mingrui asked Xu Haodong in a low voice, "Hey, what does the old man refuse to say?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "When the old man was on the job, he once taught a course called 'economic forecasting', but few students were interested, which made the old man very disappointed. I remember that the old man mentioned to me last year that the Chinese people no longer have a sense of worry, which made him even more worried about the future of the country. He believes that in the next three to five years, our country's economic development may encounter a crisis, and if it is fast, it may even explode at any time. ”

Chen Yibo hurriedly asked: "What kind of crisis?" How big is it? How long will it last? What is the flashpoint? Can this crisis be avoided? What is the way to avoid it? ”

Xu Haodong smiled, "Haha, Secretary Yibo, you shoot machine guns." I asked the old man the same way, but he wouldn't say anything, so I didn't know anything. ”

The three secretaries suddenly stopped talking.

It wasn't until he got up to leave the restaurant that Liu Mingrui said thoughtfully: "The old man's worries are worth thinking about." ”

Chen Yibo said: "I guess the old man's views are different from the mainstream views, and we eat political food, so he refuses to say it." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Two secretaries, I solemnly suggest that this topic ends here, and I don't want the old man to become the center of the topic." Since we are eating politics, let's talk about politics. ”