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"Haha, Mr. Li, your appetite is really big enough, this CCD production and manufacturing jishu, as well as CMOS production and manufacturing jishu, we do have it in our research institute, I can also get it for you, but if you really want to, go back and research the production yourself, I'm afraid it's not so easy."
Tatsuto Endo said to Li Yifan with a wry smile, but Li Yifan was surprised: "Oh? weishenme? ”
"Mr. Li, this CCD and CMOS chip looks very small, but if it is really produced, it will be very complicated, he needs to put a lot of tiny photodiodes, effectively arranged on the chip, as well as parallel model accumulators, parallel signal accumulators, and signal amplifiers, etc., micro devices are integrated together, but also to do noise reduction, rely on charge interference processing and other facilities, so that down, such a small integrated chip, But it's not ordinary equipment that can be produced at all, as far as I know, there are so many companies in Japan, that is, there are so many of them, among which Sony and Sharp are the most advanced equipment, and they also regard these devices as treasures, and generally don't easily take them out to show people, even if you want to do it, it's not so easy to get it. ”
Endo Tatsuto's words, Li Yifan frowned, indeed, he thought about these things too simply.
The reason why CCD and CMOS are so difficult to manufacture is that it involves a rather complex and comprehensive engineering, which is not a simple jishu, but it involves optics and chemistry. and electronic engineering.
Definitely not like metal smelting. Or capacitors. Resistor production is so simple jishu,There are many gimmicks in this thing.。
Otherwise, it would not be ten years from now, and there will still be a blank scene in the production of this thing in China, and everyone will have to rely on Japan to introduce such things.
It seems that even after ten years, there are not many companies in the world that can produce such equipment, such as Sony and Sharp in Japan. Panasonic, Fuji, and Nikon, Canon, shijie can also produce this thing, that is, South Korea's Samsung, but South Korea's Samsung can produce CCD, whether in terms of quality, or in terms of cost, it is worse than Japan's CCD!
What a headache. Originally, I wanted to dig into the corners of the Japanese walls, but now it seems. This corner doesn't seem to be so easy to dig!
"I see!"
"Yes, Mr. Li, this kind of CCD or CMOS chip production is not as simple as special metal smelting or capacitor and resistor production. Special metal smelting, the important thing is in the formulation of materials, and the smelting process, even if your equipment is not up to standard, but you only need to transform your equipment to achieve the goal. And capacitance and resistance, such a thing, is rare in the formula, and the production process and process, there are some relatively high-end products, generally the requirements for equipment are not too high. But CCD or CMOS is different, it is a consideration of your comprehensive industrial capacity, not only requires high precision, but also requires, high processing means, for production and equipment requirements, is not generally high, which is also the main reason why these optical companies in Japan are able to occupy such a large share in the photography market. ”
Endo Tatsuto said to Li Yifan with a bitter face, in fact, he really wanted to get all these materials for Li Yifan, and then Li Yifan went back to produce and copied them, defeated those Japanese companies in the market, and gave the Japanese a little hardship.
But he also knows that such an idea is very unrealistic, after all, even if you just have jishu, but those production equipment, if you can't handle it, zuihou will be blind.
Li Yifan frowned, the difficulty of this thing doesn't seem to be ordinary, but is it still okay? After nearly a minute of silence, he gritted his teeth!
The more rare things are, the more you have to do them, anyway, your cash flow will be abundant in the next few years, as long as you have enough money, Lao Tzu doesn't believe that you can't smash this thing, and this thing, as long as it is done, then the subsequent profit cost, it will be big.
After all, ten years later, the domestic high-tech field, especially in the manufacturing field of CCD and CMOS, is still a blank, relying on imports.
When the time comes, if you fill this gap yourself, how big will the profit be?
And the most important thing is that the country has actually been interested in developing its own optoelectronic industry, but unfortunately in the field of lithography machine, it is not enough, and later the country also set up a microelectronic equipment company in Puhai, although it is claimed to be able to manufacture lithography machines, but the lithography machines they can produce, and the products of Japan and the Netherlands, are not half a star, and can even be described as 108,000 miles.
Even in the low-end market, compared with the equipment that some companies in Baodao can produce, it is not half a star!
And this CCD is the key equipment of the focusing and leveling system on the lithography machine, the Japanese and Germans will not sell it to you at all, without this equipment, the resolution of your photoelectric conversion will not keep up, the resolution will not come up, what accuracy do you talk about?
And not to mention those high-end, let's talk about the vast digital camera market in the future, and the upcoming smartphone market, how many CCD or CMOS cameras are needed?
If you can make a certain product within a few years, even if there is a gap between the quality and Japanese products, but as long as you can keep up with the level of Samsung, then you will make a lot of money.
Grass! Done! No matter what the production equipment is, you have to get these production materials, processes and so on.
"I know Mr. Endo, xiexie, your kindness, but I still hope that Mr. Endo, you can help get these materials out, I'm really useful, even if we can't get it out in recent years, but as long as we stick to it, we will definitely be able to get it, price and cost or something, it's not a problem."
Li Yifan Zuihou gave Endo a very confident smile.
And Endo was also infected by Li Yifan's unyielding momentum, okay, since you insist, then why don't I give it, I not only want to give, but also give you the most haode.
"That's right, since Mr. Li you insist, I have absolutely no objection, it just so happens that recently in our research institute, a project funded by Sony, has been about to have results, and is now in the verification stage, this is a four-color CCDjishu, relatively traditional red, green and blue CCDjishu, this kind of jishu, and there is an extra magenta jishu, his color reproduction error rate is further reduced, and the restored color is more realistic, of course, the cost is more expensive, But one of the advantages of CCD is that if you can produce it on a really large scale industrial scale, then the cost will be very low, but if you just make it in the lab, then the cost will be very high. ”
"Oh? That's just right, Mr. Endo, you must help me get this jishu......"
Li Yifan smiled and said to Tatsuto Endo, although he is not particularly clear about CCD and CMOS, he has heard of these four-color CCDjishu and used it himself.
This jishuzuihou was launched by Sony in 2003 and applied to their DYC-F828 digital camera, and this digital camera, Li Yifan also happened to use.
Later, China also got a lot of this chip through special channels, and assembled a lot of satellite digital cameras, which were specially used by these spies to steal information, so he had a lot of dealings with this CCD, and he had a deep understanding of the performance of this CCD, and he could even say that he was full of praise.
This jishu was announced in 03, but even ten years later, this jishu is not lagging behind, and it is still a high-end product.
"Well, since Mr. Li is so insistent, then I'll help you do it, and we'll talk about the price of this product later."
Tatsuto Endo doesn't want to talk about the price of this thing today, because this thing is definitely a treasure in theory, and it is even higher than the price of those previous capacitors, resistors, etc.
But after the information of this thing comes out, it is still a question whether you can produce it, if you can't produce it, then those materials are just a pile of waste paper, so he is not easy to define the price of this thing, and he still has to go back to this price, so he can talk about it after a little research.
And Li Yifan is not in a hurry here, it is a good thing anyway, as long as he gets his hands on it when the time comes, he is thinking about the next thing, and he is not in a hurry.
"Mr. Endo, today's meeting is very pleasant, we have reached a consensus on many things, and now things are almost over, so let's enjoy life next, haha, I have arranged a lot of programs for you today, I promise to satisfy you."
Li Yifan is very weird, this Endo Tatsuto is a big pervert, he has known it for a long time, ask this guy to come out Harpy, how can he not prepare a woman?
But before he could call the next activities, Tian Zhiyong on the side stopped him first.
"Mr. Li, there are still some things I haven't told you, we might as well arrange the show after we finish talking."
Seeing that his attitude was very serious, and the Endo Tatsuto on the other side, although he also had a look of regret on his face, he didn't mean to interrupt Tian Zhiyong, Li Yifan couldn't help but feel a little strange, is there anything else that is difficult to do?
"Oh? What's up? Just say it! (To be continued......)