Before Xu Haodong sat down in the office, Mayor Li Jiguo, Executive Vice Mayor Kong Zhenghao and Vice Mayor Sun Yang hurriedly followed.

"Haodong, something happened." Li Jiguo said urgently: "Our two projects, the barren mountain greening project and the tidal flat breeding project, have now encountered a big problem. Our barren mountain greening project involves 27.5 acres of mountainous land in 43 administrative villages in five townships and towns, but 233,000 mu of mountainous land was contracted to various administrative villages 10 years ago, and each administrative village has also been contracted to peasant households for a period of 30 years, and there are still 20 years to go. Our tidal flat aquaculture project involves 313,000 mu of tidal flats in 48 fishing villages in six coastal towns and towns, but 287,000 mu of tidal flats were contracted to fishing villages seven years ago, and administrative villages have also been contracted to fishermen for a period of 25 years, and now there are 18 years to go. ”

Glancing at Xu Haodong, Li Jiguo added: "That is to say, from a legal point of view, the right to use and operate those barren mountains and tidal flats still belong to those farmers and fishermen. ”

Xu Haodong frowned and said: "This is really a big trouble, I was so busy that I was about to enter the cave room before I knew that the bride belonged to someone else." ”

Sun Yang said: "Secretary Haodong, if you really want to use the law to solve the problem, it is actually very simple. When the municipal government signed an agreement with the township administrative villages and fishing villages, it was clearly stipulated that if the barren mountains and tidal flats were not developed within five years, the municipal government had the right to take them back. In fact, those barren mountains and tidal flats have not yet been developed, so through legal means, we can recover those barren mountains and tidal flats. ”

Xu Haodong asked: "How many farmers and fishermen are involved in 233,000 mu of barren mountains and 287,000 mu of tidal flats?" ”

Li Jiguo said with a wry smile: "233,000 mu of barren mountains involve nearly 10,000 families with a population of nearly 40,000, and 287,000 mu of tidal flats involve 130,000 families, with a population of about 51,000. ”

Xu Haodong sighed, "Lao Li, what do you mean by the anger of the people?" ”

"You asked knowingly." Li Jiguo glanced at him, "When it comes to the interests of nearly 100,000 people, is it still a minority?" Barren mountains and tidal flats, thrown there, look worthless, but if we take it back, then the value will be there. ”

"Do you have any solutions?"

Li Jiguo said: "Zhenghao believes that they can exchange their right to use equity in exchange for the right to use it, that is, in the process of developing barren mountains and tidal flats, give a certain percentage of equity to the majority of farmers and fishermen, and ensure income in drought and flood." Sun Yang believes that barren mountains and tidal flats can be recovered through legal means, and of course, we either do not recover the barren mountains and tidal flats that have been developed and utilized, or use economic compensation to recover them. As for us, I think we can take it back directly by means of financial compensation. ”

Xu Haodong thought for a moment, "Sun Yang, your method is wrong, this matter cannot be solved through legal channels, the people's lawsuit against the official is news, but the official's lawsuit against the people is definitely big news, and it involves nearly 100,000 people, that is, social problems and political events." Governing the country according to law is a long way to go, and the people's awareness of the law has not yet reached a certain height, and the government must tolerate it. And if we are concerned, if this lawsuit really has to be fought, we may not be able to win. ”

Sun Yang nodded and asked, "Secretary Haodong, you are right in your criticism, I have no experience in this area." But I don't understand, why do you say that if this lawsuit really has to be fought, we may not be able to win? ”

Smiling slightly, Xu Haodong said: "According to the agreement, after farmers and fishermen acquire barren mountains and tidal flats, they are not developed and used within five years, and the government has the right to take them back." But the current situation is like this: the barren mountains have been abandoned for ten years, and the tidal flats have been abandoned for seven years. This question arises, and the defense lawyer will ask you, knowing that the other party abandoned the wasteland, why didn't you take it back ten years ago and seven years ago, but you want to take it back when you want to use it? If this is to be calculated, then the government will also be held accountable for the last five years of the barren mountains and the two years after the tidal flats are abandoned. That is to say, this is a confused account, a fifty big board account, and we will never win this lawsuit. ”

Sun Yang suddenly realized, "Secretary Haodong, I understand. ”

Xu Haodong turned to look at Kong Zhenghao and said, "Zhenghao, your idea is too idealistic. The exchange of equity for the right to use, giving a certain percentage of equity to the vast number of farmers and fishermen, and ensuring income in drought and flood, farmers and fishermen will certainly be happy, but those entrepreneurs who are ready to invest are not happy. Because this is equivalent to the cooperation between legal persons and natural persons, natural persons are also responsible for ensuring harvests in drought and flood, and are not responsible. Because this is equivalent to the cooperation between those with capital and those without capital, this kind of cooperation will not last long and will not be successful. ”

Kong Zhenghao nodded and said, "Secretary Haodong, what you said is very reasonable, but I didn't think about it enough. ”

Li Jiguo said with a smile: "Zhenghao, you can't be blamed for this, it's that you don't know the reality of the countryside very well, like this kind of thing, you must do a one-size-fits-all, and this knife must be cut openly, fairly, and justly, and you can't make a specific analysis of specific situations, otherwise the slightest difference will attract the wind of comparison, which will cause a lot of related petitions or group visits." ”

Xu Haodong said: "However, Lao Li, your solution is not very good, rough and simple, it can be done once and for all, but the process will be complicated and troublesome." Directly using economic compensation to recover barren mountains and tidal flats will blindly accommodate farmers and fishermen, which is not conducive to our other work in the future. ”

Li Jiguo nodded and asked, "Then what solution do you have?" ”

"I don't have a good idea yet." Xu Haodong said with a smile: "But the first step I thought of was that you should first find those townships and administrative villages and fishing villages that involve barren mountains and tidal flats, and put pressure on them first, and then put pressure on farmers and fishermen through them." As for why and how to do it, Lao Li, you should understand. ”

Li Jiguo smiled, "I understand, you want to synthesize the three methods of the three of us, and finally recover the barren mountains and tidal flats by means of economic compensation, but before that, Zhenghao and Sun Yang's methods must be used as much as possible and put in place." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes, you can't be the people, but you can be those townships and administrative villages and fishing villages." The right to manage those barren mountains and tidal flats belongs to those townships, towns, administrative villages, and fishing villages, and in the current situation, those townships, towns, administrative villages, and fishing villages are responsible, and they must earnestly shoulder this responsibility. ”

Kong Zhenghao said with a smile: "After the guidance of the two leaders, I know what to do." In a word, the specific situation should be treated on a case-by-case basis, and it cannot be rigidly copied. ”

"Let's put it down for now." Xu Haodong asked: "Lao Li, how is the investment promotion of the two projects of Barren Mountain and Haitu going?" ”