"Mingyu, there is one more thing, I want to hear your opinion." Huang Henian said.

"Speak, please." Chen Mingyu said.

"At the end of last year, something happened in Guangzhou that was not big in itself, but it had a very big impact. The state-owned Guangzhou Radio Factory was on the verge of bankruptcy and closure, and they laid off more than 1,000 workers, of whom more than 300 chose to completely break up with the factory, and the factory gave them 1,300 yuan a year in compensation for their length of service. In addition, in Zhejiang, where the private economy is most active, there is also a quantitative reform movement of collective enterprises, which simply means that some township collective enterprises will withdraw all or part of the collective capital after a simple assessment, and the operators will obtain the main equity of the enterprise by way of sales. You know both of these things, right? Huang Crane said.

"yes, I understand." Chen Mingyu said.

Huang Henian asked very earnestly: "Then what do you think about these two things?" ”

Chen Mingyu didn't ink, he simply pondered, and then said: "I think the incident of the Guangzhou Radio Factory is worth advocating and emulating, and this is also the only way for some state-owned enterprises with difficult operations to take." Since the enterprise is already like this, there is no efficiency, and wages cannot be paid, so what are the workers still doing in it? In the past two years, there have been many state-owned enterprises in our city that are on the verge of bankruptcy because they cannot continue to operate, but I think our city leaders are indeed a little conservative in their treatment of these state-owned enterprises. To put it simply, there are two main approaches: one is for the government to take money for blood transfusion, but it turns out that this is a bottomless pit and cannot fundamentally solve the problem; The second way is to contract out the enterprise, fantasizing that 'one package is spiritual', but there are few who are really spiritual. For those enterprises that really can't run and can't pay wages at all, some workers have spontaneously gone to the society to fend for themselves, but their identities are still hanging in the factory, and in the long run, this is a hidden danger. ”

"For the 'quantitative reform' movement in Zhejiang, I think this is a good thing, but in terms of specific asset evaluation, due to the lack of quantitative standards and evaluation systems, there are many problems. For example, many companies adopt 'local method assessment', which is to put it mildly, that is, they do not look at the facts, and they are completely patted on the head to decide. It is said that some counties are so stipulated, all collective assets are calculated according to the book value of 40%, and in fact, the situation of each enterprise is different, after these years of development, some enterprise assets have increased by several times, and some have even increased by dozens of times! So, is it appropriate to use a unified standard for calculation? I think this is a suspicion of leading to the loss of state-owned assets. ”

Speaking of this, Chen Mingyu's words changed sharply, and he said: "Of course, this can't be blamed on the leaders, the starting point of the leaders is good, the main thing is that there is no successful experience in the society, everyone is crossing the river by feeling the stones, not only for them, but also in most other places." This may be the pain that must be endured in the process of reform. ”

Tao Xuewei said: "I think what Mingyu said is very reasonable, the 'quantitative reform' movement in Zhejiang is really unreasonable!" I know an example, there is a textile enterprise in Shaoxing quantitative scheme is like this: the assets of the enterprise are quantified out of 10%, converted into 500,000 yuan as collective shares, more than 200 employees of the factory each contribute 5,000 yuan, and the operator contributes more than 1 million yuan to form a joint-stock enterprise with a capital of 2.5 million yuan. After nearly a year of trial operation, the new enterprise produced amazing profits without any suspense, while the original old enterprise fell into a loss situation without any suspense. It is difficult to ensure fairness, justice, and justification for such 'quantitative reform', because there will inevitably be many doubts and even contradictions and disputes in the process. We in Qingjiang, if we want to learn from Zhejiang's 'quantitative reform' plan, I think ...... The conditions may not be ripe yet! ”

Chen Mingyu thought to himself, it turned out that the city was ready to learn from Zhejiang's "quantitative reform" plan! It's just that I don't know if this is the idea of Qin Zhitao, secretary of the municipal party committee, or the idea of the new mayor Guo Yuancheng?

However, according to Chen Mingyu's understanding, Guo Yuancheng is actually an old and serious person, and it is estimated that he should be cautious about this radical reform plan, and although Qin Zhitao, secretary of the municipal party committee, has been the secretary of the municipal party committee in Qingjiang for three years, he can be regarded as an old secretary of the municipal party committee, but his age is not very old, he is just in his early forties this year, several years younger than Guo Yuancheng, this person is directly parachuted from the National System Reform Commission, and his style of doing things is more radical.

In addition, because Qin Zhitao has the background of the central government, this person's style of acting is relatively bold, he dares to try anything, and there is an idea of letting Qingjiang City take the lead in Huaihai Province everywhere, it seems that if he doesn't do this, he is sorry for his background in the National System Reform Commission!

Of course, in this era of great change in reform and opening up, it is certainly a good thing to have a leader who is willing to radically reform, but if it is too radical in the process of reform, or if it is decided without serious and rigorous actual research, then some side effects will inevitably occur. It doesn't matter if the side effects are not big, but if the side effects are too big, it will become a blind toss, and the public and the people will suffer in the end.

Huang Henian frowned and thought for a while, then asked, "Mingyu, then you mean not to support our city's 'quantitative reform' movement to learn from Zhejiang?" ”

Whether to carry out "quantitative reform" is a major matter related to the well-being of hundreds of thousands of enterprise workers in Qingjiang City, and Chen Mingyu does not want to express his attitude easily, because he has not yet thought about it. Although he has a relatively clear memory of the history of "that year", he is only a bystander, not a mature politician, and his current advantage is only in those superficial phenomena that he can understand, and he does not understand many of the deeper contents of this movement, in addition, he is also very inexperienced in practical operation, so he cannot give an irresponsible answer.

However, on the whole, he is still inclined to carry out the "quantitative reform" movement now, the time is not ripe enough, and there is still a lot of preparatory work to be done.

Therefore, Chen Mingyu said carefully: "I think that the 'quantitative reform' movement and the clarity of property rights are a road that those enterprises with collective hats must take, but how to go on this road, when to go, and how to go to minimize side effects is a very difficult topic." If it is not done well, it is very likely to evolve into a feast of private division of collective assets, which may then lead to non-profound social contradictions. ”

Huang Henian nodded and said, "Actually, the two of us have similar ideas, and I also think that this road must be taken, but how to go is appropriate, it is indeed a difficult problem!" ”

Tao Xuewei said very directly: "I think the time for our city to carry out 'quantitative reform' is far from coming." The reason why Zhejiang can get up is because their private economy is particularly active and has a particularly strong atmosphere, but the atmosphere here is too far worse than the atmosphere in Zhejiang. In addition, Director Huang, I also find it very difficult for you to answer the first question you just mentioned, that is, a state-owned enterprise on the verge of bankruptcy spends money to buy out the seniority of its employees and completely breaks up with the employees of the enterprise. For the economically active areas of the southern coast, the after-effects of this may not be so great, because most of the employees of enterprises on the verge of bankruptcy have already gone to society to fend for themselves before they completely break up with the company, so they may be quite happy that the company spends money to buy out their seniority. However, for our northern region, especially our Qingjiang is also an old industrial base, people have long been accustomed to 'tied' their lives to the enterprise, with the factory as their home, and the work and life mode passed down from generation to generation has made them lose the courage and ability to live independently. The bigger problem is that the atmosphere of doing business and entrepreneurship here is not strong enough, and those workers who have been bought out by the enterprise will definitely have many people who cannot find a job after entering the society, and then they will sit on the empty mountain with those Weibo 'pensions', and the pressure of survival will become increasingly prominent, which is likely to lead to very serious social problems. Therefore, I think that these two things can only be done one by one, and which one thing alone, the contradiction is prominent enough, and if it is done together, it is really difficult for me to imagine what the consequences will be. ”

Chen Mingyu nodded secretly, thinking that his cousin still saw the problem very thoroughly and had a long-term vision.

Huang Henian sighed: "Xuewei, why don't I understand what you said? It's just that our Secretary Qin is eager to make our Qingjiang a template, and has already put forward a request to Mayor Guo, both hands must be grasped, and both hands must be hard! Moreover, you also know Secretary Qin's character, he only makes decisions, and he rarely asks about specific operations, so this is on Mayor Guo. Mayor Guo recently ...... It's very difficult! ”

Chen Mingyu thought to himself, this is really Secretary Qin's idea!