As the call deepened, Xu Haodong became more and more down-to-earth, and the more Secretary Li Zhihong did not mention "Qiu Fangzheng and the others", the more Xu Haodong understood his true attitude.

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li, we have not restricted the entry of foreign capital, but we emphasize that local capital is preferred. ”

Li Zhihong said: "Fundamentalism. ”

Xu Haodong said: "You can also say the same, but personally, it is necessary to be an official for one term and benefit one party, and to engage in some self-centeredness." There is a presidential candidate named Trump in the United States, and he emphasizes America first and America first, and if he comes to power, he will definitely engage in trade protectionism. ”

Li Zhihong said: "Dare to compare the small Yunling City with the United States, the tone is not small. ”

Xu Haodong said: "As the chairman said, US imperialism is also a paper tiger. ”

Li Zhihong said: "(Haha) Xiao Xu, it seems that you are very handy in Yunling City." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Please Secretary Li criticize." ”

Li Zhihong said: "I have nothing to criticize for the time being, so I have nothing to criticize for the time being. However, I'm more interested in your antiseptic measures, can you tell me about them? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li, there is actually nothing to say about this aspect, because basically everything has existed before, but we have implemented it better." ”

Li Zhihong said: "A little better is also a good thing. As the leader of the party committee, what are your main responsibilities? ”

Xu Haodong said: "As the leader of the party committee, my main responsibility is to manage the party, that is, to govern the party strictly, and the core of strict governance of the party is to manage the key minority. In my consciousness, this key minority is all the members of the city's four sets of teams, as well as the top leaders of the 20 township streets, and the main responsible persons of the various departments directly under the city. ”

Li Zhihong said: "I heard that you have a theory of time corruption. ”

Xu Haodong said: "It's not a theory, it's just a factual judgment, I found that the current cadres are too idle, too much spare time and lack of supervision." That is, there is too much spare time, and the less regulation there is, the more opportunities there are for corruption. This conclusion is based on the analysis of a large amount of data and technology, and at least has a certain factual basis. ”

Li Zhihong said: "So, you have engaged in a reading activity and an examination system. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes, the key is that we combine the two, not only to study, but also to take exams whether they can read well or not, and to take exams twice a year like students, and the quality of exam results is also linked to personal future, so that cadres have to pay attention to it." ”

Li Zhihong said: "How is the effect? ”

Xu Haodong said: "We have done an evaluation and invited some university professors and experts to check the checks, and everyone agreed that the reading activity has at least two major benefits, one is to help improve the self-cultivation of cadres, and the other is to reduce the time for cadres to go out to engage in corruption. ”

Li Zhihong said: "You also have an anti-embalming law for family members. ”

Xu Haodong said: "This is also what we have summed up from practice, and according to our statistics, we have found that 73 percent of the corrupt elements or corrupt phenomena start with the families of cadres, or are related to the families of cadres. Therefore, we are led by the Municipal Women's Federation and regularly organize gatherings and studies for cadres' families to reduce the possibility of cadres' families being involved in corruption, and then influence the cadres themselves through the cadres' families. ”

Li Zhihong said: "That, what kind of pre-appointment talk system, what new content have you done?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li, that's the case, the previous system of talking to cadres before taking office only talked to the cadres themselves, and the form was greater than the content. Now we have borrowed from the hospital's pre-operative conversations, whether it is promotion or transfer, including the entry of new civil servants, and we also invite the family members of cadres to be present during the formal conversation. Not only was the content of the conversation serious, but it was also mainly anti-embalming, and the whole conversation was videotaped and presented to the cadres' families to enhance their memory. ”

Li Zhihong said: "Thoughtful, meticulous, details determine success or failure." By the way, how is the implementation of your intra-party democratic life meeting system? ”

Xu Haodong said: "It was a little difficult at the beginning, especially the live broadcast and video broadcast, which everyone couldn't accept. But now it has been institutionalized and regularized, and all party branches in the city hold democratic life meetings at least twice a month. What is more crucial is that the content of the democratic life meeting is substantial, it directly faces the broad masses of the people, puts an end to formalism, and plays a very good role in promoting the elimination of unhealthy tendencies within the party. ”

Li Zhihong said: "Yes, the implementation of the system is important to adhere to. Xiao Xu, I think your cadre rotation system is doing a good job. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li, we are also divided into two, and the cadre rotation system is mainly for cadres at or above the deputy section level, as well as some key positions and weight departments. We believe that it is still not appropriate for ordinary cadres at the grassroots level to make a big move, that is, soldiers who are fighting with iron and flowing water, and soldiers are leading cadres, and they should be rotated in a systematic manner, because staying in one post for a long time is easy to breed corruption. However, ordinary cadres and staff members are part of the camp, they belong to the technical cadres, they are the basis of power, and we do not support their large-scale mobility. ”

Li Zhihong said: "(um) you have a lot of ideas. Xiao Xu, I have another question, how do you evaluate your 'leniency policy'. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Well, we can't evaluate ourselves well." ”

Li Zhihong said: "The speaker is not guilty, you have done everything, are you still afraid to say it." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li, our 'leniency policy' is mainly due to the following situations. 1. Take the initiative to explain your own problems within the specified time limit. 2. Take the initiative to explain the problems of others within the specified time limit. 3. Take the initiative to explain departmental issues within the prescribed time limit. Fourth, it's not a big problem. Fifth, make mistakes occasionally. Sixth, there was a problem before the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China. Seventh, I had to make mistakes in desperation. 8. Those who have made mistakes but have outstanding performance in their work later. So far, more than 2,000 cadres and section members have taken the initiative to explain their problems, and according to the actual situation, we have lenient more than 1,700 of them. Facts have proved that the leniency policy is very effective, which not only promotes the fight against corruption and the promotion of clean government, but also purifies the ranks of cadres, and lays a good foundation for tackling both the symptoms and the root causes of corruption. ”

Li Zhihong said: "Xiao Xu, how is your zero public money entertainment system implemented? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Report to Secretary Li, the zero public money entertainment system has been implemented for a month and five days, so far, our public money entertainment expenditure is a part, please rest assured Secretary Li, we will continue to adhere to it." ”

Li Zhihong said: "Okay, if I, Li Zhihong, go to your Yunling City, won't you invite me to dinner?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Of course I want to please, but I invite you at my own expense, either go to a roadside stall and restaurant, and there is no alcohol, or go to my house, I cook it myself, and I also serve beer." ”

Li Zhihong said: "(Haha) Xiao Xu, you are amazing." Okay, okay, I don't have a problem. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li, I want to report to you about the 'Qiu Fang Zheng three incident'. ”

Li Zhihong said: "Xiao Xu, I have another meeting in the morning, let's talk next time." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Secretary Li ......"

In the video, Li Zhihong looked at Xu Haodong, and after a few seconds, he smiled and said three words, "You know." ”

"Haha......"

In the laughter, Li Zhihong waved his hand, got up and walked away.

Xu Haodong also smiled, because he understood, how could he not understand.