Wu Xiangjie said: "Our subway project happened to meet the 52nd document of the State Council, so it is a little complicated. ”

Xu Haodong raised his hand and signaled, "Xiangjie, you say more details." ”

Nodding, Wu Xiangjie said: "Not long ago, on July 13, the General Office of the State Council issued the "Opinions on Further Strengthening the Management of Urban Rail Transit Planning and Construction", that is, the State Council issued the 52nd document of 2018 to make arrangements for the planning and construction of urban rail transit in China under the new situation. There are a total of 12 thresholds. The target requirement of GDP has changed from 100 billion yuan to 300 billion yuan, and fiscal revenue has changed from 10 billion yuan to 30 billion yuan. However, if the urban population is more than 3 million, we have a slight problem with the change to the permanent population of the urban area to more than 3 million, because the permanent population of our urban area is less than 2 million. ”

Kong Zhenghao said: "Our permanent population in urban areas is less than 2 million, but if we add dozens of cities and towns, the non-agricultural population has exceeded 6 million, isn't that counted?" ”

Wu Xiangjie said: "This requires us to redo the planning and add several towns around the urban area first, so we haven't crossed this threshold yet." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Xiangjie, you continue." ”

Wu Xiangjie said: "The document stipulates that the initial passenger intensity of the proposed subway should not be less than 0.70 million passengers per kilometer per day, and the long-term passenger flow scale should reach a one-way peak of 30,000 passengers per hour. We have not yet crossed this threshold, and we need to add some data in our report. ”

Sun Yang asked, "What else can't be met?" ”

Wu Xiangjie said: "In terms of investment and financing, Document No. 52 clearly stipulates that except for projects that adopt the franchise model, the total investment of the project shall not be less than 40% of the financial funds, and it is strictly forbidden to use all kinds of debt funds as project capital, and at the same time, it is strictly forbidden to raise debts in disguise through financing platform companies or in the name of PPP. There is also risk management and control. In terms of project planning, Circular 52 stipulates that the project planning period is generally five to six years, and that the financing and construction scale should be matched with local financial resources, and the speed should be strictly controlled. ”

Kong Zhenghao said: "Haodong, your original idea was that the treasury would not pay for it, but now it seems that it will not work." ”

Nodding, Xu Haodong said: "Comrades, there is a good saying, when the subway rings, there are ten thousand taels of gold." Large-scale infrastructure and urbanization projects such as iron foundation, railway foundation, railway and highway plus infrastructure have long been a powerful tool for local governments to drive GDP growth. As a large-scale infrastructure project, the construction and opening of the subway will drive the appreciation of land in the surrounding areas, accelerate the inflow of population, and promote regional development. Therefore, there is no doubt that our subway project will definitely be launched. ”

Wu Xiangjie said: "Another point, in addition to the proportion of project capital is not less than 40 percent, the proportion of government capital in the city's public financial budget revenue in the current year is generally not more than 5 percent. ”

Nodding again, Xu Haodong said: "As a public infrastructure, the subway itself is not profitable. In most countries and regions around the world, state subsidies are required for the operation of subways. As far as our domestic situation is concerned, the cities that have opened subways have generally lost money in subway operations. The first-tier cities with relatively good operating conditions are actually inseparable from government support and subsidies behind their profits. ”

Shen Lianwen said: "In this way, some of our ideas need to be adjusted. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes." But this is my personal problem, and I would like to review it with my comrades. First, my original assumption was that the government would not invest and that all the funds for building the subway would come from society, banks and the state. Second, I originally had a plan, three years of small work, five years of big work, as soon as possible to form a scale and put into operation. Now, these two ideas must be revised. ”

Shen Teng said: "Haodong, you can't be blamed for this, we have all read and recognized the report brought by Xiangjie." If we have responsibility, we all have a share. ”

Kong Zhenghao nodded and said: "Yes, although it is not a big problem, but if you want to talk about responsibility, this is also a collective responsibility." ”

Xu Haodong waved his hand, "So, our subway project should be launched, and the thinking should also be adjusted, my suggestions are as follows, please discuss them." First, the construction of the subway project must not affect the impact of the fiscal on other expenditures, especially education and people's livelihood. Second, the realization time of the subway project will be extended to 10 years later, as a long-term plan for 20 or even 30 years. ”

Kong Zhenghao said: "I support." ”

Shen Teng said: "I also support it." ”

Everyone expressed their support.

Senior Colonel Sha Mingjian was the last to express his support, "However, my old fellow has two small opinions. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Say, say it directly." ”

Sha Mingjian said: "First, Yunling is an outpost of the East China Sea and a strategic location, and we must attach importance to national defense construction. Second, whether the subway planning has been carried out for more than ten or twenty years, whether it is too long, and whether it cannot keep up with the needs of development. ”

Wu Xiangjie said: "Lao Sha, I will answer your first point. Our subway project has fully taken into account the needs of national defense. The cost of our subway is 1 billion yuan per kilometer, of which 1.5 billion yuan is invested specifically for national defense. ”

Li Ying asked: "Can you explain what level of investment of 500 million yuan can make the national defense role of the subway?" Lao Sha, for example, can it be prevented*? ”

Sha Mingjian smiled, "I don't know, I'm afraid Comrade Xiangjie doesn't know either." Comrade Haodong is the director of the Municipal National Defense Committee, so please ask him. ”

Xu Haodong also smiled, "I don't know either." It's a military secret, and I don't want to know, because if I know too much, I won't be able to sleep well at night. ”

Everyone laughed.

Kong Zhenghao said: "Lao Sha, let me answer your second point. The traffic situation in Yunling City, the highway and light rail are quite developed, even if the population soars, it can ensure the smooth flow of traffic within five years. Or it can be said that even if there is no subway in ten years, the traffic congestion will not be like Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen. Therefore, if we build a subway, we don't need to rush at all, we can take our time. ”

Sha Mingjian sighed, "I understand, we build the subway, mainly for the economy, and then for transportation." ”

After discussion, the meeting made three decisions on the metro project. First, to solicit opinions from the public on the subway project. Second, reformulate the subway construction plan. Third, Guan Hongda is the specific person in charge of the subway project and will enter Beijing again with Wu Xiangjie.

The meeting was suspended until 12 p.m. and resumed at 2 p.m.

At the afternoon meeting, Mayor Kong Zhenghao first reported on the visit.

The Dongjiang Provincial Trade Delegation, led by Governor Shi Zhanping and Executive Vice Governor Chen Yibo, included 17 officials at all levels, more than 150 well-known domestic entrepreneurs, and chartered a special plane. After 15 days, the Dongjiang trade delegation visited 11 countries, including Brazil, Chile, Tanzania, Zambia, Kenya, Iran, Romania, Switzerland, Norway, Russia and Kazakhstan, covering four continents.

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