Xu Haodong said: "We're a typical wild roader. On the one hand, I majored in teacher training, and one of the main reasons for studying economics was to please my parents-in-law, who taught macroeconomics and microeconomics. On the other hand, when I was 12 years old, I set up a stall and started a small business, selling whatever I wanted, so I had few rules and regulations in my head, and I didn't even have a fixed mind. ”

Tian Yuqing nodded and said: "It makes sense, the difference in the growth environment determines the difference between you and me." ”

"There's another reason." Xu Haodong said: "Zhuang Zida said that if the municipal party committee and government have made contributions to the development of Yunling City in the past ten years, this part of the credit should mainly be recorded on my head, but in fact, he was very wrong. ”

Tian Yuqing sighed, "How do you say this?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "The time and place are favorable. First of all, Zhuang Zida ignores the role of policy, which is the time of day, which is the basis of success. Secondly, and the main thing is that the geographical location is advantageous, and the geographical location of Yunling is very superior, and it is really unreasonable to be underdeveloped. There is also a large number of overseas Chinese and Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan compatriots from Yunling, after the reform and opening up, it has brought countless funds and business opportunities, as well as the Yunling people have formed a tradition of embracing all rivers and rivers for thousands of years, I will only cite one example, now every four permanent residents, three are people who have settled in other places, but there have been few contradictions and conflicts in this regard, which is the biggest charm of our Yunling. ”

Tian Yuqing said, "You mean to say? ”

"Luck, I'm just lucky." Xu Haodong said: "I happen to be in Yunling, I happen to understand Yunling, I happen to be in the system, I happen to have a little power, and I happen to have the so-called dynamic theory of economic equilibrium and its mathematical model, so I succeeded." But, but, ah, a specific theory, success here is not necessarily there to succeed, success today is not necessarily success tomorrow. ”

Tian Yuqing said: "There is some truth in this. ”

Xu Haodong said: "For example, Comrade Liu Jianwei's theory of ecological circular economy in mountainous areas is currently like a fish in water in Qingshan Mountain. However, it is not necessarily applicable in other places, because the Qingshan Mountain Area has more than 800 square kilometers and has a certain scale, because the ecology of the Qingshan Mountain Area has not been completely destroyed, because there is sufficient financial support, because there are conditions to transfer the population and industry of the Qingshan Mountain Area. All in all, all kinds of favorable conditions can come together to make the theory of ecological circular economy in mountainous areas come into play. ”

Tian Yuqing nodded and asked, "To tell you the truth, if I were in charge of Yunling and follow my train of thought, would I succeed?" ”

"I can't." Xu Haodong's answer was straightforward.

"Well, why?" Tian Yuqing asked calmly.

"Macroeconomics pays attention to regulation and control, and is mainly based on the commodity economy, and its extreme situation is similar to a planned economy. The word regulation, regulation is regulation, this is no problem, control is control, this is the problem. I have read a lot of your articles, you advocate regulation and control, and control is the mainstay, this may be applicable in the three eastern provinces, and it will also work in the underdeveloped areas in the west, but not in Yunling. Yunling is dominated by the private economy, and the GDP created by foreign-funded, private-funded and joint ventures accounts for 87.5 percent of the city's total output value. What the private economy needs most is to let go and live, and the most taboo is to regulate and control, and it is difficult for your views and ideas to be useful. ”

Tian Yuqing asked: "So, what about Governor Shang Jingwu's proposition?" ”

Xu Haodong reflexively closed his mouth vigilantly.

Tian Yuqing smiled, "Don't be nervous, this is just a discussion, saying where to throw it is not a slander behind your back." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Your proposition may inhibit the development of the private economy, and with the proposition of Governor Shang Jingwu, it may allow the private economy to grow savagely, causing serious overcapacity, killing each other in disorderly competition, and the result is a mess." So in Yunling City, it is not possible to completely follow his proposition. ”

Tian Yuqing said: "You mean to say that we are two extremes, but you happen to be the balance point of our two extremes. ”

Xu Haodong nodded, "Yes, so to speak, I just found a model suitable for the development of Yunling under the party's general plan." Leader, or so to speak, you are my seniors, and I stand on your shoulders. ”

"Well, I agree with you." Nodding, Tian Yuqing said, "Haodong, I have read your monograph, and I have read it three times. There are four dynamic coefficients in your mathematical model, one is policy, which will not be discussed for the time being, and the other is the time factor, which will not be discussed for the time being. I'm interested in two other dynamic coefficients, which are population growth and the correctness of decision-making, and you can tell me more about it. ”

Xu Haodong said: "The size of the population is one of the main signs of economic development, and the gathering of population is the basic condition for the formation of economic scale, so the more the population, the higher the economic growth rate." For a city like Yunling, population is the main factor of development, and we now regard population growth as both a daily task and a strategic task for the next decade. ”

Tian Yuqing asked: "So far, what is your population situation?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "In the past, you could settle down after working for more than five years, a year ago, you could settle down after working for more than three years, and from the second half of this year, you can settle down after working for more than two years." In terms of housing, buying a house can be settled as well as renting a house. In terms of family members, children can settle down with their parents at the same time, and as for the elderly, if they have only children, the elderly can also settle down at the same time. In terms of welfare, all residents are entitled to full benefits. ”

Tian Yuqing nodded, "No wonder the population of your Yunling gathers so quickly. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Up to now, the total population of Yunling has reached more than 5.5 million. Among them, there are more than 3.3 million registered residents, about 1.2 million temporary residents and about 1.2 million floating population. In addition, there are currently 535,000 people who have applied and are waiting to settle down. ”

Tian Yuqing said: "Great achievement, but you have to pay attention to the financial burden." ”

"Governor Tian, we can afford it at the moment." Xu Haodong said: "This year's municipal fiscal revenue can reach more than 22 billion yuan, and this year's fiscal expenditure for people's livelihood is 7.5 billion yuan, excluding education. Next year, the fiscal expenditure for people's livelihood will reach 10 billion yuan. The proportion of our expenditure on people's livelihood in our total fiscal expenditure will reach 50 percent within three years, 60 percent within five years, and more than 65 percent within 10 years. In addition, our city's financial surplus over the years has exceeded 5 billion yuan, and with last year's and this year's, it can reach about 10 billion yuan. ”

"Okay, you're really rich." Smiling, Tian Yuqing said: "Change the topic, the correctness of decision-making, which is also a dynamic coefficient in your mathematical model." ”

Xu Haodong said and smiled, "Leader, when it comes to decision-making and the correctness of decision-making, you have more say than me." ”

Tian Yuqing waved his hand, "Hey, I'm here to investigate, I'm mainly listening, and you're mainly talking." ”