After dinner, Xu Haodong accompanied a few people to the reception room, and while sitting down, he asked, "Why did the three of you come to visit at night?" ”

Shen Kang asked rhetorically: "Do you still have official business at night?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "I rarely deal with official business at night, but I have to watch the World Cup. ”

Liu Bingyun said with a smile: "Watching other people's teams play, are you interesting?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Interesting, I can watch the game and think about these questions at the same time, how far is Chinese football from the world's strongest teams?" Is the gap widening? How can we close the gap with the world's best teams? ”

Yao Xincheng asked: "Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the results of your thinking?" ”

Kong Zhenghao smiled: "He is idealistic, but the result of thinking is definitely pessimistic." ”

Xu Haodong nodded and said: "Yes, later I retreated to the next best thing, and compared the Chinese team with the five teams of Japan, South Korea, Australia and Iran in Asia, I was even more pessimistic." is the gap with these five teams, at least more than ten years. And even if I catch up at a rate of two years a year, I will have to catch up in 20 years, and I will be almost 60 years old at that time. ”

Liu Bingyun said: "I don't know the ball and don't watch the ball, is the gap between us and them really so big?" ”

Xu Haodong said, "Please note that the gap between the top five in Asia is at least ten years or more, and as for the gap with the world's top teams, I can't see any hope of catching up for the time being." ”

Shen Kang said: "No wonder you said in your speech this afternoon that the biggest gap between China and foreign countries is the level of football. ”

Yao Xincheng said: "I deeply agree with what Haodong said. The Iranian team Australia has a body, a strong impact, and a strong ability to carry and hit. The Japanese team has technology, talks about the whole, and has a mature style of play. The Korean team has strong willpower, can fight, and has small tricks. Saudi Arabia is a local tyrant team, regardless of the results, and can shine once in three or four years. Compared with these five teams, the Chinese team has no advantage at all. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Lao Yao is a person who understands ball. ”

Liu Bingyun said: "The World Cup is going to be expanded, and the Chinese team can also play." ”

Kong Zhenghao said: "This has no substantive significance, at our level, it is a dish, a dish within a dish." ”

Shen Kang asked: "Haodong, I'm a little unconvinced, is the gap between Chinese and foreign football really more difficult to make up than the gap in science and technology?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes, this is my personal opinion. On the one hand, it's us who play football badly. Football is a civilian sport, or a grassroots sport, but let's toss it into an aristocratic sport, spending tens of thousands of yuan a year, how many families can afford the training fee? We don't have a football culture either, and everyone knows that it's easier to destroy than to build, and it's hardest to build a culture and make it popular. Chinese football has been professionalized for more than 20 years, and you can see what they have done, it is nothing more than a few more multimillionaires and billionaires. Those so-called professional players may not even be as physical as me. Expecting them to break out of Asia is worse than building an aircraft carrier. ”

Yao Xincheng said: "Also, now that we are a pluralistic society, there are more choices for children, and we lack the soil to cultivate football culture. Besides, we are exam-oriented education, the college entrance examination is there, there are countless make-up classes, and not many families are willing to let their children play football. ”

Shen Kang said: "I don't agree with this a little, Iceland only has a population of more than 300,000, which is less than the population of one street in Yunling." Their football population is certainly small, so why did their football suddenly pop up? ”

Kong Zhenghao said: "I think it is because they concentrate their social forces and concentrate on one thing that they succeed because of their single-mindedness." ”

Xu Haodong said: "I'll talk about science and technology, why is it easier for the backward side to catch up with the advanced side." The development of science and technology has become more and more extensive, a discipline can be divided into dozens or even hundreds of majors, I may not be as comprehensive as you, but I can make breakthroughs in a few or even dozens of majors, and take the lead in surpassing you. I can't do it in ten aspects, it doesn't matter, I will surpass you in the eleventh or twelfth aspect first, as the so-called East does not shine and the West is bright, and the spark can start a prairie fire. Also, I'm not as good as you in this field, I can go backwards, I can go the other way around, and I can still clear your advantage to zero. ”

Speaking of this, seeing that the four "listeners" were listening carefully, Xu Haodong continued: "Let me give you a few examples. First, aircraft carrier technology. The United States had aircraft carriers 90 years ago, and we only decided to build aircraft carriers 20 years ago. But it doesn't matter, I'll develop anti-aircraft carrier technology first, what will be the result? I dare say that in 20 years, the US superiority in aircraft carriers has been digested by at least 70 percent. It is not without pride that the Americans dare to fight anyone, but they just dare not start a war with China, because they do not know what level China's anti-aircraft carrier technology is. ”

"Second, satellite technology. As far as I know, the gap between China and the United States in the development of satellite technology is between 10 and 20 years. This gap is actually not huge, and if we develop it by surprise, we can catch up even in five to seven years. But we don't need to be in such a hurry, let's just follow the steps, catch up slowly, and narrow the gap little by little. At the same time, I went the other way around, I accelerated the development of anti-satellite technology, which is not necessarily useful in peacetime. But once there is a war, I'm sorry, I'll use anti-satellite technology to let you and my communication technology go back to seventy years ago. ”

"Three, medical technology. Lao Shen Lao Liu, you are more than ten years older than me, you should have some experience of what it was like thirty years ago and what level it is now. It can now be said that in the vast majority of respects, our medical technology is on par with the international level and in some respects ahead of the world. What we are lacking now is the lack of medical technology, medical resources, service levels, and how to industrialize scientific research results faster and better. ”

Yao Xincheng asked: "Haodong, please ask a question, when will China's semiconductor technology, that is, chip technology, be localized." ”

Shen Kang also said: "Yes, ZTE was stuck by the United States because of the chip, and it fell down all of a sudden." ”

Xu Haodong said: "This is our mistake, not forward-looking. A mobile phone, anything can be made in China, that is, the chip that represents the core technology is in the hands of others, which is really terrible. What's the problem? It is just that the doctrine of borrowing is prevalent, and what can be bought, it is not seriously engaged in self-determination, and the lesson is very profound. ”

After a pause, Xu Haodong said: "However, the ZTE incident is both a bad thing and a good thing. Our nation has an advantage, which is called eating a trench and growing a wisdom, which is commonly known as eating and eating. If there is no ZTE incident, it may take us ten to fifteen years to realize the localization of chips. But after the ZTE incident, with our wisdom, diligence, attention and investment, I dare to conclude that it will take five to ten years to realize the localization of chip technology. ”