After listening to Chen Yibo's words, Xu Haodong was silent for a while, and then he asked with a smile: "For example?" ”

Chen Yibo didn't laugh, he said: "For example, your new real estate policy pilot, most of the country's real estate companies do not have a high evaluation of this; The sale of your state-owned land has canceled the bidding auction, and the brother counties and cities are not very happy; Your city's financial profit system and non-debt system are even more unhappy with your brother counties and cities...... Why? Because they couldn't do it, but you Yunling did. ”

Xu Haodong listened without saying a word.

"For example, if you have a zero-entertainment system, you will offend even more people. From ministerial-level high-ranking officials, down to ordinary cadres of government agencies, as far as Haihua visitors, and as close as brother counties and cities, you have zero hospitality to any guests, and you don't even give you food or wine. Think about it, what would those who used to eat, drink and be merry think? Will they be happy? ”

Xu Haodong said: "So far, no one seems to be unhappy, whether it is people from the province or the ministry, whether it is the inspection team or the inspection team, it has not affected our work." ”

"That's just scratching the surface." Chen Yibo said: "Not long ago, a city organ held a secret ballot to solicit everyone's views on your Yunling City's zero entertainment system. The result? More than 1,600 people should have participated, but more than 500 did not vote. Of the more than 1,100 people who participated in the voting, 41 percent were 'against,' 22 percent were 'indifferent,' 20 percent were 'unaware,' and only 17 percent were 'supportive.' It can be said that 'I don't care' and 'I don't know' are both opposed, at least not 'support', and if we add in the more than 500 people who have given up, only 11.6 percent are really 'supporters'. Haodong, think about it, how hateful is your zero hospitality system? ”

Xu Haodong smiled and asked, "Brother Yibo, this 'certain city' is your Binzhou City, right?" ”

Chen Yibo nodded and sighed: "Haodong, this is the confusion I just said, what's wrong with our cadre team?" The party style is quite abnormal, and the quality of the cadres is not high, but it is not so inferior. ”

"Brother Yibo, it's your understanding that has a problem." Xu Haodong said: "The vote you did didn't have much practical significance, it was similar to the so-called voting on the Internet, there was too much water, and there were more fakes than truths." From the perspective of psychology and the analysis of the characteristics of the network, there is a phenomenon of rebellion and conformity, this kind of voting can only be used as a reference, if you are serious, it means that you have psychological problems. ”

Chen Yibo sighed, "Haodong, do you mean that you can even look at this kind of voting result the other way around?" ”

"Yes, but it can't be said to be completely useless." Xu Haodong said: "Brother Yibo, I once wrote a special article on democratic evaluation, which was adopted by the internal publication of the Organization Department of the Provincial Party Committee last year, and was later recommended by the Organization Department of the Central Committee to be published in the "Internal Reference". ”

Chen Yibo nodded, "I have read your article, and the views are bold and sharp, I really have you, I heard that the middle and senior cadres and cadets class of the Central Party School have also discussed your article." ”

Xu Haodong said: "First of all, democratic evaluation is an important means to inspect and evaluate cadres, and of course it should be adhered to. However, it is undeniable that this method has more form than content, and has more disadvantages than benefits. I used big data technology to analyze the 37 democratic evaluations of our city-level cadres in Yunling City over the past 10 years, and the number of participants in each time was more than 50, and the results made me feel a lot. If you listen to this set of data, 21 percent of the participants don't know about the test subject, 17 percent of the participants have never worked with the test subject, and 9 percent of the participants have only heard of the test subject's name, so you can infer how much real meaning they voted. ”

Chen Yibo said: "I feel the same way, typical formalism. ”

Xu Haodong said: "There is also the herd psychology and the psychology of superiority in the democratic evaluation, taking me as an example, I participated in the democratic evaluation before the three fallen secretaries were appointed. I knew they had shortcomings, and even suspected that they had problems, but I voted for them anyway. Why? Because I saw that people expressed their support, because I thought that if it was put forward above, it would definitely be raised. ”

Chen Yibo said: "Your article proposes the method of individual conversation. ”

"Yes, it's better to tell the truth when talking alone." Xu Haodong said: "Taking myself as an example, the investigation of the three fallen secretaries not only carried out democratic evaluations, but also conducted individual conversations. During the democratic evaluation, I voted in favor of the three fallen secretaries; When the superior leaders asked me to talk to me alone, I frankly expressed my true views on the three fallen secretaries, and it can be said that I have no reservations. Brother Yibo, do you think I'm conflicted? When I think about it now, I don't think I'm a thing. ”

Chen Yibo snorted, "When you say this, my mood is much better, and I know what is going on with the results of the 1,600-person vote I organized." ”

"Hey, what about me?" Xu Haodong asked: "Did I make a mistake with the zero entertainment fee system?" ”

Chen Yibo said: "Of course it's right, it's not only true, but it's also very necessary. The province has a prefecture-level city, five counties and county-level cities, and eight provincial departments, which are implementing the zero entertainment system, and the prefecture-level city is your Yunling City, which is doing the best. I myself came here this time to learn from you, and we in Binzhou City are also ready to implement a zero hospitality system. ”

"You don't have to learn from it." Xu Haodong said: "If you want to implement a zero hospitality system, it is actually very simple. First of all, it is a one-size-fits-all approach, resolutely not leaving an opening, and not giving a chance to resurge. Secondly, you take the lead, and the four teams take the lead together, and no matter who violates, they will be exposed. In addition, a system of reporting on the consumption of cadres going out is implemented, and those who do not report will be regarded as spending with public funds. In addition, mobilize social forces to reward whistleblowers, and those who report the consumption of public funds will be rewarded with 100 times the amount of the consumption once verified, and the reward will be borne by the consumption of public funds. ”

Chen Yibo said: "A hundred times, a ruthless move, a trick, but it is a high move, a good move, a good move." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Of course, the propaganda work must also keep up, we mainly calculate an account and tell the vast number of cadres and masses in the city. In Yunling City, we have always strictly controlled the consumption of the three public goods, but the annual consumption of the three public goods in the whole city is still as high as 500 million yuan, accounting for 7 percent of the city's total financial revenue. Now, the consumption expenditure of the three public enterprises in Yunling City is zero, and the 500 million yuan saved has been invested in the people's livelihood, which has solved the tight situation of the city's financial revenue and expenditure in one fell swoop, and at the same time won the hearts of the people. ”

Chen Yibo nodded and snorted, "Regarding this zero hospitality fee system, you give me all the information, and I will take it back to study and study in detail." ”

Speaking of this, Xu Haodong asked: "Change the topic, Brother Yibo, you tell me the truth, is there someone in the province who wants to mess with me?" ”