"To do this economically, at the moment, in the eyes of us earthlings, it is clearly a fantasy. It can be said that the achievements of our entire civilization on earth are the results of monetary-driven efforts, and without this driving ability, we will not only be unable to guide people to produce, but also to guide people to spend money. ”

"Since the federal civilization in the setting can do this, at least they have formed a certain high degree of identity in the social system - otherwise, imagine what the result would be if nothing was bought on the earth?"

"It has been said that human desires in this world are things that can never be satisfied, no matter how developed the productive forces are, they cannot really meet the needs of people, not to mention that the needs of many people are purely competitive."

"In my opinion, the biggest possibility of doing this is that they have formed some kind of simple and clear standard in social morality - what exceeds a certain standard is an unreasonable demand, and within this standard, it is a reasonable demand."

"If the economy is regulated, in fact, such standards must always exist, including the era of planned economy on the earth, including the rationing of materials in wartime - what materials can be consumed, what materials can be consumed in limited quantities, and what materials cannot be consumed, and this standard itself implies a certain morality."

"I have a hypothesis that if such a standard really exists in the Federation, then there must be some kind of indicator corresponding to this standard, which may not necessarily be currency, maybe just a reference value like the level or score of an online game."

"The meaning of this value should be essentially money - only unlike pure money, it measures the moral evaluation within a society."

"In fact, even on the earth, the meaning of making money is not to make money itself, many people make money to a large extent, in order to obtain social attention and evaluation, this evaluation is of great significance to the shaping of a person's sense of existence, it is often the basis of a mature social personality, but also the foundation of civilization cohesion."

As for the third topic, the discussion process was somewhat unsmooth.

The first two topics have already made many participants marvel at the far-sighted and meticulous logic of this fabricated "game" in all aspects, and the third topic itself involves more confidential content, and it is more difficult to prevaricate the past with "game settings".

This includes the design of the Federation's civilization ships, the aliens, and the appearance of their military fortresses...... These things are different from the previous information, they are all very "hard" technical information, as long as they form a document in the discussion, this knowledge is likely to be imperceptibly spread by the people involved in the discussion.

Leaks are not possible, but it is conceivable that there will be associations with the existing technological system, in case several scientists are affected by this and try accordingly......

Therefore, in this topic, the amount of information provided by Qinglan Consulting is particularly vague, which also makes it difficult for the participants to accurately grasp the specific matters discussed, and the consequence is that almost all the things discussed at the meeting are not the lips of the donkey.

For example, several experts insisted that if there were a large number of spaceships that could break away from the gravitational pull of the planets, the war between the planets would become a combat mode similar to a naval battle.

And because the cost of reconnaissance in space is so low, the two sides are almost openly fighting, and there is almost no possibility of deception between each other - so the war must either not be fought, or if it is fought, one side must have won the game, and it can be calculated that it can win - and the result will definitely be the same as the calculation.

So none of them thought that the war could drag on at all.

Even the most basic state is guessed wrong, and the rest of the discussion is naturally unlikely to have any results.

However, Wu Xiaoqing can also understand, after all, if you want others to be able to answer good answers, they should be able to ask good questions when they ask questions.

After the consultation meeting, Qinglan Consulting was almost all off work.

The rest of the company was almost gone, Wu Xiaoqing and Shen Changwen stayed, touched each other again, and exchanged their experiences for the afternoon meeting.

Shen Changwen's side was involved in more detailed topics, including the estimation of the Federation's industrial capacity, the hypothesis of the expansion of the scale of the war, and the management of the intelligent brain...... Among them, the estimation of the federal industrial capacity surprised Shen Changwen the most.

According to the various visual materials provided by the search and rescue team through Wu Xiaoqing, it can probably be judged that the Federation already has the industrial capacity to completely transform a planet.

It seems a bit ...... to use "industry" to describe the power of this civilization It is too terrestrial, and in the context of the earth, industry, the form of production, is the most terrible form of productive forces that human beings have mastered and can transform nature.

But according to the data provided by Wu Xiaoqing, the ability of the entire federation is probably not just "industrial", just take the fortress planet that Wu Xiaoqing has seen with his own eyes - hollowing out the entire planet, which is not something that the so-called "industrial" ability can do.

They have all visited Second Earth before, and they also know that many cities in Second Earth are from the underground, from reality, and are completely simulated according to real cities in reality.

The so-called underground city is not the concept of underground fortifications on the earth, dig dozens of meters underground, at most one or two hundred meters, and then get some cement reinforcement inside, and then dig some tunnels to connect, and then it will be considered alive.

In the Federation, underground cities are almost completely three-dimensional, and in many cases a city is much deeper than its surface diameter. If you were to describe the many cities of the Second Commonwealth in terms of shape, most of them would be columnar – counting down from the ground down.

The Earth of the Federation has been almost completely hollowed out, but this is not the most incredible - the most surprising thing is that the original liquid core is now replaced, and the structure and gravity of the entire planet can still be perfectly maintained.

That is, the Federation not only has the ability to develop the entire planet, but also has the ability to maintain it. - Maybe there is still the ability to make it.

What kind of spectacle might such a terrible productive force create once it is all thrown into war......

The thoughts of some people in the consultation meeting made Shen Changwen feel terrified.

A military expert from the United States mentioned that since the Federation can completely hollow out even a planet, or even transform it into a fortress, it may not be particularly difficult to go one step further and find a way to move such a fortress.

Imagine if a planet were completely converted into an offensive space carrier, if both civilizations used this method, when the two fleets met each other...... They don't even need to actually bump into each other, just go into each other's gravitational range, and it's a disaster for all the combatants.

On this basis, imagine deeply, in fact, with this level of natural transformation ability, the most practical weapon to fight a war in the solar system should be this gravity weapon.

They can use a planet as a weapon to throw at their enemies, and as long as they find a way to activate it and push it through, there is little room for them to resist. It's like two people fighting fiercely, picking up a shot put ball from each other and smashing it at each other's heads.

If it is a civilized child like the earth, it is natural that he can't hold the shot put, and he doesn't need to worry about smashing others, but for the Federation and the Mind Body, theoretically they can definitely do this, and once they do this, there is no room for recovery - as long as the shot put is thrown, it is impossible to catch it firmly with just using both hands...... It is even more impossible to expect the strength of the head to exceed the shot put......

Another Frenchman had the idea of a little more romantic—he thought that if he were one of the sides in the war, he could keep making huge pieces in a specific direction, placing them in the orbit of the opposing planet, and creating strings of beautiful meteor showers—the purpose of which was to slow down the target planet when it finally passed by the debris.

If possible, it would be better to pre-bury such fragments in the opponent's orbits...... It's like stuffing the tracks of a train with gravel blocks.

The most serious derailment of the train when it encounters debris is not the same, but if the orbit of the planet is full of huge mass debris at low speed, not to mention the threat caused by these romantic debris meteor showers directly hitting the planet itself, and finally the consequences of the planet being slowed down......

The French call this tactic the brake tactic, forcing the opponent to spend a lot of energy on accelerating the planet when they encounter this tactic. In space, it is much less expensive to direct a huge mass to produce a slight offset in a specific direction than to actually accelerate or decelerate a planet, and it is much easier to implement.

The more Wu Xiaoqing and Shen Changwen talked, the more they felt furious in their hearts, and they only felt that the difficulty of this mission began to rise sharply.

The two of them began to truly realize what a dangerous job it was to deal with a civilization that was much more advanced than Earth—this method of warfare could be described as a mythical method of warfare in the eyes of the Earthlings, but for the Federation, it was entirely possible.

And their job is to stop it from happening.

After the change, Wu Xiaoqing rarely loses confidence in one thing, but now, he and Shen Changwen both saw this worry in each other's eyes.

"What you just said is not what worries me the most," when the two of them were talking just now, the search and rescue team was there all the time, but they didn't interject, and now that they finished speaking, the search and rescue team helped them make a summary, "What I'm most worried about is that the people of the Federation are completely not using these tactics that we seem to be very feasible." ”

Wu Xiaoqing and Shen Changwen glanced at each other and immediately understood what the search and rescue team meant.

In the war against the Federation and the Intellectuals, they must have been considered only laymen, but now some of the simplest tactics that laymen can imagine have such a great deterrent ability - but on the actual battlefield, they have not seen such tactics put into use at all.

One of the most reasonable explanations is that the logic of the real war game is far beyond their imagination, and the hidden dangers in the real war are far beyond their imagination.

It's like if primitive people were to see what modern earthlings were like, and the best way for them to imagine a fight would be to crush each other in cars - this is the most direct and terrifying thing to look at.

But when they really saw the battlefield of the earthlings, and saw that there was not a single car on the battlefield - that is when they should be most afraid.

"The higher the war between civilizations, the more civilized it looks in form, and I have good news for you, Yevgeny just got the news from the Intellectuals," the search and rescue team said, "You are safe for the time being." ”

"Are we safe?" Wu Xiaoqing and Shen Changwen glanced at each other, and quickly understood that the collection team was referring to their consciousness replication data.

"Yes," said the search and rescue team, "the federal government didn't catch you, and the Changbai and Changxing we rescued helped you escape." ”

"But even if you run, you can't run out of the control of the entire Federation." Even if the search and rescue team comes to Earth, it is still inevitable that humans will find traces, not to mention the three pieces of data copied by the three of them.

"No, if you follow the words of the intellect, your clones can escape to a large extent...... The question now is whether we need them to be free or whether we need them to be arrested. ”