Chapter 14 The rites are simple and the punishment is complicated

This summons was not in the Chengguang Temple.

Without him, when the longevity banquet was dispersed, it was almost midnight, and it was even more of a mess. Zhu Qizhen naturally can't govern here tomorrow. And the ministers of low grade naturally staggered out of the palace gate with each other's support, and returned to their residences under the escort of the incessant lights on both sides of the street.

And many high-status ministers are resting near the Chengguang Palace.

Zhu Qizhen naturally couldn't mix with the minister.

Zhu Qizhen found a palace north of the Chengguang Palace, called the Ninghe Palace.

Although today's West Garden has not been developed and built on a large scale. However, the palace buildings of the Yuan Dynasty, as well as the palace buildings made by Taizong Xuanzong, still left many traces.

So, Zhu Qizhen came together the next day and met Li Xian in the Ninghe Palace.

The two sat opposite each other, speechless for a while.

It's not that there are no words, but I don't know where to start.

There must be a general programme for any political act.

This is what Zhu Qizhen lacks the most, and he can't say to Li Xian, I want to develop the productive forces and run into socialism. Li Xian doesn't treat Zhu Qizhen as a madman, and even thinks that Zhu Qizhen is not enough to be the world's great responsibility, and it is possible to find a way to force Zhu Qizhen to be a madman.

But if you explain it one by one, Zhu Qizhen feels that there are too many things to say, about taxation, about administration, about household registration, about commercial taxes, about government structure, and so on.

It's just that a lot of things have to change.

Li Xian finally spoke first and said, "The minister is ashamed, so that His Majesty is suspicious of this. However, the minister will go, and now he is just an old man. Some things have to be said clearly. ”

"Your Majesty has argued with me several times, all of them are personnel from the Ministry of Rites, the Ministry of Punishment, Dali Temple, and the prefects of Hebei.

"There must be something big in the world. In the opinion of the ministers, it is nothing more than these things, the first is to build water conservancy on a large scale, the second is to build a gallop road on a large scale, the third is to abolish the hereditary system of officials, and the fourth is to clean up the servitude, although the minister does not know for a while what method His Majesty should use to clean up the tax. The last thing is to use all this into the "Daming Huidian" and rebuild the Daming law. In the future, the Ming Dynasty will go from governing the country with etiquette to the point of ruling the country by law. ”

"I don't know if the minister thinks so?"

Zhu Qizhen listened, and said with a wry smile: "There may be discrepancies, but there is not much difference." ”

Although Zhu Qizhen did not talk openly and honestly about this matter with Li Xian, with their understanding of each other, Li Xian could guess many things.

Although Zhu Qizhen has increased the speed of changing the law, there is never a shortage of relevant preparations.

Needless to say, overhaul water conservancy and galloping roads.

In fact, Li Xian and Zhu Qizhen have a consensus on these two things. The differences are nothing more than a relationship between relaxation and urgency, and this little difference can be resolved.

What really caused the two of them to have major differences was actually the latter three things.

Among them, the abolition of the system of Xu officials has been practiced in Beijing for several years. This time, such a big event was held in Beijing, and nothing went wrong in the end, and thousands of officials in Beijing helped a lot.

But it is also one of the largest cities in Beijing, which has all kinds of tax support to support so many people. If this policy is implemented all over the world, the problems are too big.

Li Xian was resolutely opposed.

The second is to clean up the enlistment.

This incident can be seen as a continuation of Qingzhang's acres.

Li Xian also admitted that there are many problems at the grassroots level of the Ming Dynasty, but the matter of Qingzhang Tianmu has solved many problems, and the Ming Dynasty now has an annual treasury of more than 40 million stone of grain, nearly 20 million taels of silver, even though the Ming Dynasty has to support more than 10 million taels of military spending every year than before, once the war starts, more will be needed.

But there will be a balance every year. As long as Zhu Qizhen does not carry out major projects, there will be no major disasters and famines in the country. It only takes a few years to recuperate, and you can achieve "the money of the capital is hundreds of thousands, and it is impossible to learn." Taicang's Su Chen Chen is full of dew and accumulates outside. "The rule of Han Wenjing can be found today.

Therefore, there was no need for the Ming Dynasty to reform the enslavement.

But these issues are not negotiable.

Li Xian himself is in politics and is also very tactful. There are many things that are not principled, and he will not resist Zhu Qizhen.

But the last question is the one that Li Xianwan can't accept.

That is the "Daming Huidian" that has been delayed for several years, speaking of which, this book has been repaired for several years. If there is no other reason, it will be fixed long ago.

Li Xian and Zhu Qizhen are fundamentally competing with each other in this matter, and they will never compromise.

At the beginning, Li Xian originally thought that this was just one time, the sorting out of the law, after all, it has been more than 100 years since the Ming Dynasty, and many regulations are a little chaotic.

Even Li Xian helped. After Zhu Qizhen proposed a complete set of legal systems, Li Xian didn't care about it at the time, but when the "Daming Huidian" was assembled and cultivated.

Zhu Qizhen tried to see the dagger.

In other words, it is not a dagger to see the poor, but to leak out his inner thoughts.

What Zhu Qizhen wants is nothing else, but a set of laws that can control all aspects of the Ming Dynasty, from the highest decision-making to the disputes of the people, all of which find the answer in this set of laws.

Let all the general affairs of Daming run freely in this system.

But this is not something that Li Xian can accept.

Li Xian said: "Your Majesty, do you know why Confucianism is better than Legalism? ”

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Qi Zhen said, "Sir, please speak?" ”

Li Xian said: "Without him, the etiquette is simple and the punishment is complicated. ”

"Looking at the Qin law, there are not all the perfections, and there are many contradictions in the etiquette law. The law made by His Majesty is even more complete and self-contained, and the resurrection of Han Feizi may not be able to find a fault. ”

"But it can't be done in the Ming Dynasty."

"In the Warring States Period, countries successively changed the law and became stronger, and Qin used the law to unite the world. Han Lai Qin Foundation to become the world, why instead use Huang Lao, and even Confucianism, and not use Legalism? ”

"Without him, the law is perfect, and the provisions must be cumbersome, and the internal and external are unified. Used for a country, a province today, the inside and outside are separated by only hundreds of miles, the Ming monarch and the famous ministers use the world, naturally can maintain the law without losing, but once the world, a radius of thousands of miles, from the capital of the county of Shida, there are several months away. ”

"The customs are different in various places, and the usage is happy here, and the usage is incredible, but the people are unbearable, not to mention that they are far away from the Beijing Division, and the court whip is beyond reach, and the order can be bent to harm the people, and the court does not know it."

"The death of Qin is the death of Faye."

"And the rule of law by etiquette is nothing more than three outlines and five constants, even if it is a generation of women and children, they also know that even so, the first thing to govern the people is still to educate first."

"Although after the Qin Dynasty, the court of all dynasties used the law, and then the court law had the right to change the way and break the prison in the Spring and Autumn Period. Precisely because of this. There must be no mess in this matter. ”

"Your Majesty, please think twice."

Zhu Qizhen listened and fell into deep thought.

Even in the later generations, the work of popularizing the law has been going on, and there are still many people who are legally illiterate.

This is even more true today.

Even if the people don't understand the laws on the organization of the state and other laws that have nothing to do with the people, there are more than 100 laws about the lives of the people alone.

But it's all in the air.

It's as if there are regulations on usury in the Ming law, but usury everywhere doesn't take this matter seriously at all.

Not to mention, in many places in the Ming Dynasty, especially outside the city, there is no room for the Ming Law to play at all.

It is not difficult to formulate a set of laws, even if it is a complete set of laws, but it is difficult to enforce, implement, and popularize this set of laws.

It needs a large number of talents, as well as the general improvement of the knowledge of the people of the Ming Dynasty, not to mention anything else, at least not illiterate.

Otherwise, even if you put the most perfect law in front of him, it will be useless.

And what is the illiteracy rate in Daming?

In fact, this question should be asked in another way, how much is the awareness rate of Daming, this is also a question that Zhu Qizhen does not know, but knows that he will not be optimistic.

Any social system must match the productive forces at that time, and Zhu Qizhen understands this deeply at this moment.