Chapter Seventy-Two: Tile Thorn Kevar

The meeting in which Zhu Qizhen participated was also slowly divided into levels.

Only members of the Cabinet, or one or two related persons, attend a Cabinet meeting. The Cabinet, the Five Armies, the Governor's Office, the Six Ministries, and the Metropolitan Procuratorate may or may not have nine secretaries.

After all, some of the Jiuqing are simply vain.

This is the Imperial Council.

If there is a high-ranking official of the Ming Dynasty, it is the Great Dynasty Meeting.

It's just that the importance of the meeting has nothing to do with the participants in the meeting, and the pilgrimage meeting is generally a formality.

But sometimes the cabinet meeting is very important, sometimes it is a daily meeting.

There is nothing important that will not be held except for the Imperial Council. When a matter is about to be convened in the Imperial Council, it means that this matter is particularly important, but not important enough.

What really matters, there is no meeting at all to decide.

But even so, the number of people involved in this meeting was extraordinarily large.

Without him, everyone heard the rumors, and Meng Ying's recitals were basically circulated.

The conquest of the tile thorn is a national policy that has been practiced for so many years, and many people want to participate in such a major event.

In the end, there could only be more and more people, and in the end, the main hall of Wuying Hall could barely accommodate it. There are cabinets, five military capitals, six departments, nine secretaries, and some honors in Beijing, etc., plus many people from the Hanlin Academy came to make meeting minutes, and there are more than 100 people in the hall.

As soon as there were many people, the relationship between them became complicated, whispering to each other, and for a while there was a buzz in the palace.

"Your Majesty has arrived." With a loud roar, the duck pulled his throat.

This voice drowned out the other voices.

After Zhu Qizhen sat down, he saluted like a ceremony, and Zhu Qizhen said: "Teng Guogong, come and talk about it." ”

"Yes." Meng Ying coughed slightly twice with white hair, and said: "Since the tile spur has been detached, he has peeped into this dynasty and repeatedly violated the side, which is already difficult. His Majesty's edict is unprecedented since the founding of the dynasty. For the courtiers, would you rather keep it in mind every day, think about the elimination of this dynasty food, solve the difficulties of the country, and the worries of the monarch? ”

"In the past few years, the first war was in Xingkai Lake, and the second war was in Zhaozhou. It's a good both. This is exactly how His Majesty is leading, I am thriving, and the thorns are declining. ”

"It is when the army goes north, chases the enemy in Mobei, and destroys this dynasty."

"Teng Guogong." Wang Wen said: "Military affairs are related to the lifeblood of the world, and we must not be careful. You say that the tile thorn is declining, and I am rising, why not wait for a while? The imperial court has not been wealthy lately. ”

Meng Ying said: "What Wang Shangshu said is not good. I'm here today to mention this matter, and it's not that it's going to be out of the jam this year, it's all next year at the earliest, and I also know about the household expenses this year, although it's a little nervous, but it's much better than last year. But whatever is foreseen is established, and not foreseen

If it is wasted, does Lord Wang think that if we do nothing here, we will be able to die by ourselves first, and the tile spur will be defeated by ourselves? ”

"Isn't it ridiculous?"

Wang Wen didn't know what to say for a while.

"Teng Guogong." Liu Qiu said: "What you said is right, but it is not trivial to make a big move, if you guarantee to win?" ”

Meng Ying said: "The soldiers on the battlefield are in danger, and no one can guarantee victory. ”

Liu Qiu said: "No one can guarantee victory, so wait a little longer." When it comes to victory, it's not too late to fight, the old man, old arms and legs, can't afford another big defeat. ”

Although what Liu Qiu said, there is no reason at all.

Who can guarantee victory before they go to war? It's simply not possible. However, Liu Qiu's words were agreed by many ministers of civil and military affairs.

This is the reason why very civilian officials are reluctant to fight.

If they go out on the expedition, if they are defeated, they will also suffer the consequences, but if they win, they will have nothing to gain? On the contrary, it gives the nobles a higher voice.

This kind of thing, how to look at it politically, how to lose money.

A lot of people have to uphold this attitude, and don't fight unless they have to win.

When Zhu Qizhen heard this, he was biased towards Meng Ying in his heart.

Without him, he convened this imperial meeting, in fact, he couldn't pay attention to it himself, and wanted to hear other people's opinions. Now Liu Qiu's words are almost like a nonsense angle.

It seems that Liu Qiu also knew that what he said was a little too unreasonable, he saluted Zhu Qizhen and said: "Your Majesty, it's not that the minister wants to make things difficult for Teng Guogong, it's just that the orthodox fourteenth year war, the imperial court took five or six years to recover, and at the most critical time, the front of the army was only more than 200 miles away from Beijing. ”

"The world is shaking."

"The minister is still sweating now, once the enemy breaks through the Juyong Pass, and the tomb of the first emperor is harassed, the old minister does not know how to see the first emperor underground."

"Soldiers, the major affairs of the country, the place of death and life, must not be overlooked."

"Your Majesty, please think twice."

As soon as Liu Qiu said this, naturally several officials came out together and said, "Please think twice, Your Majesty." ”

Zhu Qizhen may not understand what they think, but he knows that this is not Liu Qiu's idea alone, but the idea of many civil officials.

What emperor is guilty of his edict in the Taimiao, he wants to put it himself, then let it go, what is the matter with us?

It's like in our history textbooks, the main battle faction of the Southern Song Dynasty is listed as a positive role, but in fact, most people in the Southern Song Dynasty don't want the Northern Expedition at all.

Own interests are more important than national interests.

Of course, there are some deviations in completely malicious speculation about what Liu Qiu thinks. Liu Qiu is also right, Da Ming doesn't want to endure a battle of Maoerzhuang.

Zhu Qizhen was dissatisfied in his heart, but he didn't show it at all

come, so he looked at Teng Guogong.

Teng Guogong Meng Ying coughed twice and said, "What Lord Liu said is wrong. The battle of Maoerzhuang was certainly a great shame for the dynasty, but the reason for this incident was completely after Yongle, and the imperial court ignored the things on the grassland, which caused the tile spurs to sit on the side, and there were hundreds of thousands of horsemen to buckle the side, so as to alarm the Beijing Division. ”

"A lesson from the past, a teacher from the future."

"Your Majesty has learned from the pain, so he has repeatedly sent troops to the northeast, competing with the tile spurs, pressing step by step, so that there is today's situation, the decline of the tile spurs, and the rise of the imperial court, which is caused by His Majesty's painstaking management."

"If you want to be stable at the border, you can't just retreat and defend yourself, you must drive on the grassland for a long time, and fight in the desert northern wasteland, so that you can seek peace later."

"As for what Lord Liu said, he will win? Naturally, there is none. ”

"I will be from a family, and my children will go on expeditions, and the family often arranges the same room, why not? It's just because on the battlefield, in the place where the corpse stands, on the day of the expedition, he promised the country, and left no personal feelings, and the family only wanted to ask for a bloodline heir. ”

"However, because there is a possibility of defeat in the war, this battle will not be fought, since ancient times, how can there be a war that can be won without a fight, just fighting in the grassland, then the nine sides will not be plagued by the war, fighting in the nine sides, the people of the nine sides are poisoned by this, not to mention, once lost, it will affect the Beijing division."

"It's clear which is more important."

"And now the situation, I am strong and the enemy is weak, and now I still refuse to go out of the fortress to fight, when will I get out of the fortress, will I close myself and repeat the mistakes of the past?"

"The minister thinks it must not be, please let Your Majesty know it."

Zhu Qizhen sighed in his heart, this is that he doesn't like to hold a conference more and more. The reason why I like to limit the scope of deliberations to the cabinet is increasing.

Off topic.

What Zhu Qizhen wanted to discuss was whether it was appropriate to go out of the fortress and attack on a large scale this year or next year. However, they crooked whether to go out to fight, and even implied that they would accept it when they saw it and end up in the war.

It's 108,000 miles off.

Zhu Qizhen naturally couldn't allow it to go down, and said, "Okay." What Teng Guogong said is exactly what I mean. It is my intention to eliminate all evil. ”

Teng Guogong Meng Ying immediately said: "Your Majesty is wise. ”

Meng Ying can't forget to pat himself on the back all the time, and when he said this, the other ministers naturally couldn't keep up, so they also said: "Your Majesty is wise." ”

"Your Majesty, Teng Guogong is naturally right, the thorn will not be extinguished for a day, and this day will be uneasy." Liu Dingzhi said: "It's just that the imperial court has limited use, if Teng Guogong wants to make a big move, but he has to think carefully, I am afraid it will not work in the next two years." ”

As far as Liu Dingzhi is concerned, he wants to disagree with Zhu Qizhen on this occasion, but he can't do it if he doesn't say it.

In case Teng Guogong went north with hundreds of thousands of troops in one breath, he would be comfortable, and Liu Dingzhi would cry to death. It's hard to really let the court smash the pot and sell iron.